• 116 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Avatar image for deactivated-5bb52f8f25413
#1 Edited by deactivated-5bb52f8f25413 (7026 posts) - - Show Bio

Random encounter

Morals on, but anyone can go crazy anytime they want.

Who wins?

Avatar image for vooon
#2 Posted by vooon (410 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Diana carries because of Athena's sight, she's supposed to be highly-resistant to telepathic attacks.

Avatar image for evil-incarnate
#3 Posted by Evil-Incarnate (7122 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 better team work. They'll blitz em

Avatar image for rabumalal
#4 Posted by RabumAlal (5178 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

Avatar image for hegemon
#5 Posted by Hegemon (11509 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Diana is MVP.

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#6 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean has telepathic feats against resistance so high it was considered immunity to all other telepaths. Telepathic resistance is not 100% Jean proof. As far as teamwork goes, Jean has instantly transferred and absorbed years of information and experience on more than one occasion telepathically, and trained an entire new team of X-Men in the use of their power as it pertained to her battle plans in a few panels. This would suggest she and Raven can run countless scenarios to counter any teamwork, especially since time does not move when she does this in the astral plane as evidenced by her having a conversation with Beast while super charging his powers mid fight only for his astral self to re-enter his body with no physical time passing. Then there's Raven who can just bfr them from the word go.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00
#7 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

Which Versions are we using?

Regardless, team 1.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00
#8 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@vooon said:

Team 2. Diana carries because of Athena's sight, she's supposed to be highly-resistant to telepathic attacks.

Batman mind raped her with Nano bots.

Avatar image for dernman
#9 Posted by Dernman (26044 posts) - - Show Bio

@vooon said:

Team 2. Diana carries because of Athena's sight, she's supposed to be highly-resistant to telepathic attacks.

Batman mind raped her with Nano bots.

Nano bots =/= telepathy

Also Batgod =/= any good sense of limitations

Avatar image for deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00
#10 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:
@all-father said:
@vooon said:

Team 2. Diana carries because of Athena's sight, she's supposed to be highly-resistant to telepathic attacks.

Batman mind raped her with Nano bots.

Nano bots =/= telepathy

Also Batgod =/= any good sense of limitations

I never said they are the same thing, what Batman used was a form of mind rape.

Exactly.

Avatar image for dernman
#11 Edited by Dernman (26044 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father said:
@dernman said:
@all-father said:
@vooon said:

Team 2. Diana carries because of Athena's sight, she's supposed to be highly-resistant to telepathic attacks.

Batman mind raped her with Nano bots.

Nano bots =/= telepathy

Also Batgod =/= any good sense of limitations

I never said they are the same thing, what Batman used was a form of mind rape.

Exactly.

yes but you were using it as an argument against Athena's sight defense against mental attacks but it's not. Nano bots is a physical one.

So take anything Batgod does with a grain of salt and not being repeatable with other characters

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#12 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't her resistance only protect her from mind control and being read? Not that I believe it will help with Jean controlling and reading, but telepathy is highly versatile and using it as a weapon involves far more than reading, mind control and illusions. Jean can also directly attack the brain and other internal organs telekinetically.

Avatar image for ilostthekey
#13 Posted by ILostTheKey (993 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean solos.

If Diana is resistant to the TP, Raven can just BFR her to Hell, or the Sun.

Avatar image for totu
#14 Posted by totu (780 posts) - - Show Bio

Raven had already defeated WW by putting her in time stasis (alongside her JL team) while in the same time she was mind manipulating and controling Starfire (alongside her own Titans team), so basically she can solo here.

A more balanced fight would have been Raven and Starfire vs Jean Grey and Wonder Woman. Or Raven and WW, the brunettes, vs Starfire and Jean, the readheads hehe, to split Raven and Kori who are way more used to work together as a team and will beat Jean and Diana.

Avatar image for pyrofn
#15 Edited by PyroFN (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey solos. Maybe Raven too. Don't know enough on Ravens own speed.

Avatar image for babydarkseid
#16 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
Avatar image for johnpeterbanana
#17 Edited by JohnPeterBanana (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

Going by these conditions, probably WW can deal with them fast enough(?). Otherwise, Raven BFRs (considering the battle gets too long).

Avatar image for totu
#18 Posted by totu (780 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrofn said:

Jean Grey solos. Maybe Raven too. Don't know enough on Ravens own speed.

Don't know about Jean soloing. I mean, is surely possible but how fast is she on the draw? Because a no holding back Starfire is ftl as combat speed, with starbolts powerful enough to even KO WW.

WW should be just as fast afaik, even when she is not going full out, and is possible she have some telepathy resistance, and she definitely have the power to take down Jean in one shot if she gets to her.

So Jean should be really fast and use her psionics at full power right away as both her opponents can be extremely fast and can easily KO or kill her if they touch her

Raven at least know them (and already defeated them), and beside that she can also be extremely fast, she was easily dodging strikes from a bloodlusted Superboy (Superman son from the future) from just an arm lenght distance, and can teleport in an instant, faster than Kid Flash can run.

Avatar image for pyrofn
#19 Posted by PyroFN (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

@totu: Speed of thought. And with telepaths it can be as simple as saying the word: sleep in their head. Just think what they want and it would take place for them telepathically or telekinetically, if their powerful enough. (We are talking about Jean Grey so there is no doubt on her power) According to the scan I got that info from, it said the slightest movement, she reacted quickly enough. She has also deflected bullets from nowhere as well as lasers from the Stranger. Starfire is impressive, but if she has to think, she won't win. Ergo why the Flash exceeds her at base form, because he thinks faster than normal people, seeing things move at slower paces because he just thinks and does things that fast. As far as I know, the same can't be said for Diana or Koriandr.

Wonder Woman would be tougher to deal with, ergo why I'm also hoping Raven could help if she is quick enough. Jean could make use of her telekinesis as well in conjunction with her telepathy as she has done multiple times before.

It depends on whether they can move faster than she can think. That requires their own thought and execution, where as for Jean it only takes thought.

If Raven is as good as you say, then it's an easy win for team one.

Avatar image for ginman333
#20 Edited by ginman333 (3061 posts) - - Show Bio

I must have stopped reading X-Men at the wrong time because I still view non-phoenix Jean as little more than the damsel in distress...

Avatar image for sladerulez
#21 Edited by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Raven can take hits from cassie/Wondergirl without suffering any injuries, and can react to Jon-el.

Not to mention her Time stopping ability and her BFR.

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#22 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

@totu: Jean is a psi she doesn't need to be physically fast her powers work instantly in concert with her thoughts. Her shields stop light attacks and can withstand full blasts from a bloodlusted Binary, a planet buster. This battle starts with morals on, meaning in character neither Starfire nor WW will be FTL. Once again WW having resistance to telepathy means nothing to Jean who has consistent feats against resistance so high it was immunity to all other telepaths. WW's resistance has never been called immunity therefore it's lower than the resistance Jean has easily bypassed. Jean also psi screamed and dropped a dark Phoenix Emma under her own power according to the Phoenix itself.

Avatar image for lord_spectrum
#23 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio
Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#24 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

@ginman333: so you stopped reading in the 70s? Even before the Phoenix in 1976 Jean was far more powerful than she was shown in her first appearances able to take out Sentinels with single psi bolts. Even in her first appearance she didn't start as a damsel in distress as she humiliated Beast and causally plucked missiles from the sky. The 90s cartoon is what really made her seem weak without the Phoenix even though she soloed the Morlocks and was the last xman standing in the trial by combat against the imperial guard without it.

Avatar image for ginman333
#25 Posted by ginman333 (3061 posts) - - Show Bio

You took me very literally. ha ha.

@ginman333: so you stopped reading in the 70s? Even before the Phoenix in 1976 Jean was far more powerful than she was shown in her first appearances able to take out Sentinels with single psi bolts. Even in her first appearance she didn't start as a damsel in distress as she humiliated Beast and causally plucked missiles from the sky. The 90s cartoon is what really made her seem weak without the Phoenix even though she soloed the Morlocks and was the last xman standing in the trial by combat against the imperial guard without it.

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#26 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio
Avatar image for tohellandback23
#27 Posted by ToHellAndBack23 (115 posts) - - Show Bio

Raven solos

Avatar image for gunchar16
#28 Edited by gunchar16 (1804 posts) - - Show Bio

@rhysdurden: Which versions, Starfire is always a weak link?

Current team 1 wins, cause Rebirth/N52 WW can't carry her team alone.

Post Crisis team 2 wins, cause WW can carry her team.

Composite WW solostomps, but that would be just a hard missmatch.

Avatar image for gunchar16
#29 Edited by gunchar16 (1804 posts) - - Show Bio

@tohellandback23: @pyrofn: @ilostthekey:

Jean Grey or Raven solo shit, not even Rebirth/N52.

That would they win together tough.

Post Crisis would they lose, even if Raven tries to bfr WW to hell(yeah no) she would just teleport back(which she already did, after she also teleported herself to hell...) and lasso or kill her.

And composite would be just a hard missmatch

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#30 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

@gunchar16: didn't post crisis WW need a magical object to teleport? She doesn't have that here if it's not standard equipment, standard meaning using it in every appearance. People that say Jean solos based on her being telepathically powerful enough to mind rape through all forms of resistance and so called immunity.

Avatar image for thebuckaronatr
#31 Edited by thebuckaronatr (1837 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Rachel did but that would not help her against Dianas sword, but in character should Rachel and Jean solidly win. Bloodlusted could go either way, depending on who Diana tries to speedblitz.

Pre 52 on the other hand would Diana and Kori comfortably win.

Avatar image for thebuckaronatr
#32 Edited by thebuckaronatr (1837 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: Pre 52 Diana had dimensional teleportation as gift of Hermes, she did not need any objects. The sandals of Hermes where just to teleport her to an otherwise unreachable place.

Even New 52 Diana has huge tp resistance, so Jean would rly need to work for it. So i agree that she can not solo. Also is Diana faster and could one shot her with her sword, but that would probably need to be bloodlusted. And pre 52 Diana has even better tp resistances and is even a lot faster, stronger and so on.

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#33 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebuckaronatr: When did the sandals allow teleporting? so it wasn't the caduceus of Hermes that allowed her to teleport?

Jean won't have to really work at it. She has effortlessly mind raped people with "immunity" and psi blasted and took out dark Phoenix Emma without the power of the Phoenix. She Mind raped a horde of psi resistant demons in a realm they were annexing. Diana's resistance has never been referred to as immunity, therefore it's not as strong as the resistance Jean has overcome with ease. Diana is only physically faster than Jean. Jean does not need to physically react or move only think, and considering she can sift through billions of minds wading through potentially trillions of thoughts in seconds we know her mind operates faster than normal humans in a Universe where thought is faster than light. Jean's instant shields have tanked full power blasts from a mind controlled blood lusted Binary, a planet buster. Her shield and telepathy are all she needs to put WW down. Juggernauts decades of consistent "immunity" to telepathy defecates messily on WW resistance and Jean causally entered his mind.

Avatar image for pyrofn
#35 Edited by PyroFN (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

@gunchar16: Crap. I think I accidentally deleted my comment.

Anyways, that all depends on whether Wonder Woman has a faster thought process than Jean Grey, like the Flash. And if you're gonna go off on the Telepathic Resistance excuse, note that Jean Grey can multitask her powers no problem.

And damsel in distress? Animated series Jean or 60's? Either way, you have no idea what you are talking about. In no way is Jean Grey a damsel in distress. In fact, the recent Jean Grey solo issue has revealed the girlie thing to have been all an act.

2nd Edit: Apologies to gunchar and @ginman333. The scans below were for you though by the time I'm making this second edit, I have realized you were only joking. Won't make excuses, only apologizefor my behavior. Still, enjoy the rambling of an idiot below, as well as some insight as to the stigma against Jean Grey normally.

Edit: Although no character is perfect, yes even Jean Grey (*gasp* someone says Jean isn't perfect saint goddess), hows about keeping objective about this, rather the inferring comment about her being a mere damsel in distress. No character has a perfect record and at times has needed saving, some more than others. At the very least the downfall is explained about Jean, unlike most character with unexplained jobbing. You don't have to like her or admit anything. Just don't be unnecessary in adding anything disrespectful, please.

No Caption Provided

Some moments that she Jean isn't some feeble eye-candy.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

Don't confuse the costume. She only took on the costume and name to honor her late daughter at the time, Rachel Summers. (Who took on the Phoenix moniker and became a host to honor her mother) There was also Phoenix imagery representing the height of her powers, without the Phoenix influence. Don't worry, this confusion was addressed in the comics, for the X-Men were worried about her and she confirmed it was only a name and costume.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

Nevermind getting her angry. Phoenix isn't the only reason she is called a fiery red-head, neither is it merely the red hair, I mean it is because of those things. She also has quite a temper, the reason she is so scared of having so much power like she does. push her past her patience, forget about it.

Avatar image for theonewhoknows
#36 Edited by TheOneWhoKnows (4916 posts) - - Show Bio

Willfully ignoring that Wonder Woman has utterly resisted full on assaults from TPs who are planetary, TPs who are so unquantifiable that they affected alternate timelines and realities (and yet Diana's resistance was so complete she wasn't even aware he was trying to attack her), and concentrated, hours long assaults from Skyfather TPs in their own realms where they are supreme, and where Diana was trapped and had no choice but to take it (and resist it) means that claiming Jean-for sure-would affect the Amazon is not feasible. The woman has also, on more than one occasion, resisted massive reality warping, including from uber powerful reality warper Queen Of Fables.

Add in the fact that said Amazon has moved faster than thought, and it becomes even more odious to proclaim Grey could take Diana out-for sure-so totally and immediately that Diana would come to a complete stop before her momentum carried her to the mutant and ended her.

And through either her lasso, or concentration, Wonder Woman has transported everywhere from the "Other Place" (where she rescued sister Amazon Artemis) to the Astral Planes---so Raven sending her away won't work.

Finally, unlike many of her JLA team mates, both Post Crisis and N52 Diana is willing to take out an opponent (and The "Rebirth" story arcs have merged the character's experiences and feats)---so mercy won't automatically be in play here.

Starfire is very fast herself, and doesn't need to be blood lusted to terminate an opponent. She can battle and affect Wonder Woman level characters, so the weaker in durability Raven/Jean duo have much to fear.

Having said that, the Raven/Jean duo is quite formidable in their own right, have undeniable, prodigious power, and the slightest opportunity will allow them to injure their opponents enough to go on to triumph over them.

Wonder Woman and Starfire win, 6/4, maybe even 5.5/5.

Avatar image for thebuckaronatr
#37 Edited by thebuckaronatr (1837 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans:

Her tp resistance got often enough called immunity, especially in pre 52 were it was literally based on the concept of truth. Diana was even the goddess of truth.

Jean would absolutely need to work on it if we ignore NLFs like she goes through any immunity, which is not possible and would be an hard outlier.

Pre 52 Diana was even explicitly stated as faster than thought(and more) and could easily blitz her. Jean would without any doubt lose against pre 52 Diana.

Against New 52 Diana looks it much better, she would still need to work on it but less than against pre 52. Also is the speed lower, but if the sword hits her is she done for good. Anyways with the back up of Raven should she win, even considering Kori.

Oh and yeah the sandals had a teleport function, and no she did not need anything for the other dinensional teleportations. The only thing she did was to pray before she teleported to hell for example, but actually just there.

Avatar image for lordofallhumans
#38 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (6973 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebuckaronatr: Jean has had no trouble with high resistance or immunity after she stopped holding back.

Faster than normal thought, Marvel telepaths thoughts operate faster than normal people which is why they can locate a single person via a single thought out of billions of minds instantly. Nor is that speed her normal speed of operation or the world would be a statue to her, since it isn't one can assume she has to consciously increase her speed to those levels from a base speed which would mean at her base speed her own thoughts are normal as she interacts with world at a normal speed majority of the time. The sword is not getting past her shield or her telekinetic power to just fling it away. Jean can literally make her crap herself via telekinesis, induce heart attacks and clot blood just by thinking about it. If she has her tk sensitivity she will sense every move WW tries to make on the molecular level. Jean has the distinctive advantage of being able to fight at distance from two planes of existence, the physical and astral planes without having to lift a finger. Both Jean and Raven have solo potential.

Not to mention how hilarious it is is to argue different versions of WW including current while ignoring three versions of Jean are Phoenix and currently she's White Phoenix. I mean seriously the OP didn't say so we go by current anyway so Jean stomps since we are now arguing versions to be used, and no Teen Jean is not current Jean Grey, she's a time displaced alternate Jean like the Maddie of X-man was.

Avatar image for imspitterman
#39 Posted by imSpitterman (280 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Avatar image for gunchar16
#40 Edited by gunchar16 (1804 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrofn:

Of course is WWs thought process faster, how did you think was she able to catch Flash and even Zoom(not top speed, but that would be just insane)for example? Not sure how multitasking should help here?

To the rest:

Huh???????????????????????

Could it be that you talk with someone else there?

Avatar image for p00ty
#41 Posted by P00TY (5781 posts) - - Show Bio

This is morals on. Unless you are a true speedster(not just fast but Speed is your main ability) you are not blitzing 5/10x. Maybe once or twice out of ten.

To my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong) Starfire can be mind controlled to fight WW. Now it's 3 vs one.

Team 1 7/10

Avatar image for gunchar16
#42 Edited by gunchar16 (1804 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans:

None of them has solo potential especially not post crisis, stop with the wanking. Almost everbody agreed that team 1 win with current versions, there is no need for such bullshit.

And to use phoenix for Jean, is like to use Oddyssey or even more Creation Energies Wonder Woman...

Avatar image for pyrofn
#43 Posted by PyroFN (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrofn:

Of course is WWs thought process faster, how did you think was she able to catch Flash and even Zoom(not top speed, but that would be just insane)for example?

Though tagging the Flash is impressive, the Flash has been tagged by others slower than Wonder Woman, was he not? Zoom is equally as impressive, though Id like to see the circumstances of both speedsters tagged.

Not sure how multitasking should help here?

It means she can use both her telepathy and telekinesis at the same time. Multitasking at its finest.

To the rest:

Huh???????????????????????

Could it be that you talk with someone else there?

Crap! Been at this for a while and may have forgot to tag the necessary person. -_-

Ill take a look and hopefully correct the mistake before this becomes irrelevant.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b728068f211c
#45 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio
Avatar image for thevoidofdeath
#46 Posted by TheVoidofDeath (2143 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one wins

Raven has been able to take on power houses and blizters

* Donna Troy

*Stafire

*Superboy

*Wally West

*Orion

*Superman

and put the entire JLA in stasis including ww while controlling the Teen Titans .

Adding Jean would just be a stomp

Avatar image for agent41
#47 Posted by agent41 (15704 posts) - - Show Bio

@totu said:
@pyrofn said:

Jean Grey solos. Maybe Raven too. Don't know enough on Ravens own speed.

Don't know about Jean soloing. I mean, is surely possible but how fast is she on the draw? Because a no holding back Starfire is ftl as combat speed, with starbolts powerful enough to even KO WW.

WW should be just as fast afaik, even when she is not going full out, and is possible she have some telepathy resistance, and she definitely have the power to take down Jean in one shot if she gets to her.

So Jean should be really fast and use her psionics at full power right away as both her opponents can be extremely fast and can easily KO or kill her if they touch her

Raven at least know them (and already defeated them), and beside that she can also be extremely fast, she was easily dodging strikes from a bloodlusted Superboy (Superman son from the future) from just an arm lenght distance, and can teleport in an instant, faster than Kid Flash can run.

kori's blasts never KO Post Crisis Diana.

Avatar image for totu
#48 Posted by totu (780 posts) - - Show Bio

LordOfAllHumans

@pyrofn said:

@totu: Speed of thought. And with telepaths it can be as simple as saying the word: sleep in their head. Just think what they want and it would take place for them telepathically or telekinetically, if their powerful enough. (We are talking about Jean Grey so there is no doubt on her power) According to the scan I got that info from, it said the slightest movement, she reacted quickly enough. She has also deflected bullets from nowhere as well as lasers from the Stranger. Starfire is impressive, but if she has to think, she won't win.

It depends on whether they can move faster than she can think. That requires their own thought and execution, where as for Jean it only takes thought.

If Raven is as good as you say, then it's an easy win for team one.

This is a bit tricky, since for example Starfire don't need to close the distance, just fire a starbolt (which normally should go at speed of light even if she, with morals on, won't move herself at that speed). So if they both think about the same, it will be a very close call as Starfire can oneshot Jean from the distance with a starbolt (and arguably even Raven, but not as clear).

Because some of those are pretty powerful, she had KO Wonder Woman with one during one of their fights.

However I still think that Raven and Jean team wins. WW (or even Starfire) won't blitz anyone (if the team is telepathically connected), or not Raven at least, who have some precog abilities and dodged as I said Jon-El strikes from an arms lenght distance (and his telekinetic attacks as well). And Superboy was bloodlusted and tried to kill her at that time, and he should have been as fast as his dad, Superman.

Beside that Raven don't necessary need to bfr them, she also have magic powers, great empathy/telepathy powers that might even surpass Jean at some point, her soul self that had take down Orion for example (a bloodlusted, battle ready Orion, someone who can easily keep up with Superman, or even beat him, but who still couldn't escape), time control and manipulation (she did take down WW like that in the past, put her in time stasis with the others from JL).

She had even take control and manipulated WW soul at some point, slicing a part of it and fuse it in Darkseid soul (without Darkseid even realize that), and that was WW as a goddess or so, iirc, so she can mess up with their souls too.

Anyway, if Starfire or WW get to score a direct hit of any kind, is sort of game over for Jean, but a bit more tricky for Raven, who is not at all a canon glass, she wasn't completely KO by Trigon's lightinings, or by Cassie/Wondergirl or her own brothers punches and strikes.

And she was sort of taken by surprise in first cases, when she was battle ready (like against her brothers) she just take it and strike back right after that, beating her brother in hand to hand fight. As half demon and daughter of Trigon she do have quite some resistance if she wish to, is hardly easy to put her down even when someone manage to hit her.

Now it depends of how good are Jean telekinetic shields and if she is quick enough to rise them. If so, I think the win for team one is mostly assured, and if we consider that Raven and Jean could be telepathically connected and Raven already know what Kori and Diana can do, they mostly likely win.

They can also try to mind control Starfire and make her join their team for example

Avatar image for agent41
#49 Posted by agent41 (15704 posts) - - Show Bio

@totu said:

LordOfAllHumans

@pyrofn said:

@totu: Speed of thought. And with telepaths it can be as simple as saying the word: sleep in their head. Just think what they want and it would take place for them telepathically or telekinetically, if their powerful enough. (We are talking about Jean Grey so there is no doubt on her power) According to the scan I got that info from, it said the slightest movement, she reacted quickly enough. She has also deflected bullets from nowhere as well as lasers from the Stranger. Starfire is impressive, but if she has to think, she won't win.

It depends on whether they can move faster than she can think. That requires their own thought and execution, where as for Jean it only takes thought.

If Raven is as good as you say, then it's an easy win for team one.

This is a bit tricky, since for example Starfire don't need to close the distance, just fire a starbolt (which normally should go at speed of light even if she, with morals on, won't move herself at that speed). So if they both think about the same, it will be a very close call as Starfire can oneshot Jean from the distance with a starbolt (and arguably even Raven, but not as clear).

Because some of those are pretty powerful, she had KO Wonder Woman with one during one of their fights.

However I still think that Raven and Jean team wins. WW (or even Starfire) won't blitz anyone (if the team is telepathically connected), or not Raven at least, who have some precog abilities and dodged as I said Jon-El strikes from an arms lenght distance (and his telekinetic attacks as well). And Superboy was bloodlusted and tried to kill her at that time, and he should have been as fast as his dad, Superman.

Beside that Raven don't necessary need to bfr them, she also have magic powers, great empathy/telepathy powers that might even surpass Jean at some point, her soul self that had take down Orion for example (a bloodlusted, battle ready Orion, someone who can easily keep up with Superman, or even beat him, but who still couldn't escape), time control and manipulation (she did take down WW like that in the past, put her in time stasis with the others from JL).

She had even take control and manipulated WW soul at some point, slicing a part of it and fuse it in Darkseid soul (without Darkseid even realize that), and that was WW as a goddess or so, iirc, so she can mess up with their souls too.

Anyway, if Starfire or WW get to score a direct hit of any kind, is sort of game over for Jean, but a bit more tricky for Raven, who is not at all a canon glass, she wasn't completely KO by Trigon's lightinings, or by Cassie/Wondergirl or her own brothers punches and strikes.

And she was sort of taken by surprise in first cases, when she was battle ready (like against her brothers) she just take it and strike back right after that, beating her brother in hand to hand fight. As half demon and daughter of Trigon she do have quite some resistance if she wish to, is hardly easy to put her down even when someone manage to hit her.

Now it depends of how good are Jean telekinetic shields and if she is quick enough to rise them. If so, I think the win for team one is mostly assured, and if we consider that Raven and Jean could be telepathically connected and Raven already know what Kori and Diana can do, they mostly likely win.

They can also try to mind control Starfire and make her join their team for example

starfire never KO Post Crisis Wonder Woman. Diana>>>kori.