Jean Grey & Emma Frost vs Professor X & Rachel Grey

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Poll Jean Grey & Emma Frost vs Professor X & Rachel Grey (14 votes)

Fire & Ice 71%
The bald and the beautiful 29%

Telepathy only. No phoenix

Morals off. No prep

Jean & Emma vs Xavier and Rachel

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TP users wins here

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#3  Edited By Cruelrain

This is kinda hard but this how i see this

Jean and Xavier stalemate for while the same with Emma and Rachel but then Emma beats Rachel due her skills and power and Joins Jean against Xavier periodt.

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Emma = X so its 50/50. Jean easily beats Rachel and then helps enhances Emma and allows her to humiliate X

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Jean Grey solos.

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Team 2 due to superior teamwork

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Jean Grey solos.

she doesn't have the phoenix so no she does not

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@cruelrain: no, darling no.... that write ignored Rachel's skills and experiences in DOFP, she hunted and killed mutants, including the X-men.

She was Phoenix and was throwing planets around, fought Necrom and won... all those experiences and skills gone...

When a being becomes a host for the Phoenix Force, they r granted cosmic awareness, infinite knowledge of the cosmos, precognition etc.. where did all this experience which btw Emma didnt have go?

I wouldn't use such a lame writing

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Jean can beat either, and Emma can beat one and contend with either

Frost and Grey take majority

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@princess_fiona: NO, Emma > Rachel it's a very hard battle but Emma should be the winner

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@cruelrain: no it isnt.. Rachel has more raw power and has the skills to back it up...

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Um.....I feel weve done this already...in fact I'm positive we did this and a version with Emma swapped and Psylocke involved....

Oh well, Emma and Jean by a small margin in the toughest battle for all of them

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#16  Edited By marvelfan1992
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@koays: because this picture deserves attention

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Xavier beats Jean.

Emma beats Rachel.

Xavier beats Emma.

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@cruelrain: no darling. That's a bullshit statement made by fans etc.. Rachel was skilled enough to mask her presence from Selene in the 80s and almost killed her with a sneak attack.

Selene is 17 thousand years old... I am sure that if u were to ask who is a more skilled telepath Emma and Selene, u would say Emma..

But facts r that they r all skilled telepaths, every telepath is might be more skilled in specific things when it comes to telepathy but they r all good..

Emma doesn't has better feats to suggest that she is more skilled than anybody else.. it's just a false statement that's been spread out for decades

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Jean is greater than or equal to Xavier, so they stalemate for awhile.

Emma and Rachel are pretty close too, but Emma would eventually win. Then she helps Jean beat Xavier.

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This is kinda hard but this how i see this

Jean and Xavier stalemate for while the same with Emma and Rachel but then Emma beats Rachel due her skills and power and Joins Jean against Xavier periodt.

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@princess_fiona: “Emma doesn’t have better feats to suggest shes more skilled than anybody”

.....what?

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@princess_fiona: Emma has dozens upon dozens of skill feats that place her several tiers above most fodder telepaths and many high tier ones

Even in her fight with Rachel she shows that the skill matters immensely in a TP fight

You’re wrong by every bit of in universe logic

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By feats it should go to fire and ice, but with how many power ups Rachel has been getting she should be able to compensate for the skill difference she has with Emma.

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@princess_fiona: Also about Emma having no feats that allow her to be placed above other telepaths... Exodus reads someone’s mind (I don’t remember who) and he says that a telepath implanted a false memory, then he proceeds to say one 5 telepaths in the world could accomplish this (He was talking about Emma)

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By feats it should go to fire and ice, but with how many power ups Rachel has been getting she should be able to compensate for the skill difference she has with Emma.

Rachel didn't get a power up (at least not a permanent one) in X-Force

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The thing about this battle that makes it not work is Jean. She’s been built up over the years to be too powerful and too skilled.

She throws off the Bell Curve.

A better battle would be Rachel and Emma vs Charles and Betsy.

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#30  Edited By AsheTDust

The thing about this battle that makes it not work is Jean. She’s been built up over the years to be too powerful and too skilled.

She throws off the Bell Curve.

A better battle would be Rachel and Emma vs Charles and Betsy.

Has that been done before? Probably.

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@ashetdust: Yes that's the narrative the books have taken the past years, but we're in a new era so this might not be the case anymore (although hickman still chose to make her an omega telepath...but so is quire) and also, Xavier just has way too many feats to easily say Jean>Xavier just like that. It's still REALLY close between them IMO

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#33  Edited By marvelfan1992

@princess_fiona said:

Emma = X so its 50/50. Jean easily beats Rachel and then helps enhances Emma and allows her to humiliate X

Xavier>Emma, but Emma is definitely AT LEAST on the same level of skill as Xavier and Jean. Rachel is admittedly below them