hands down Jason Todd
Jason Todd vs Dick Grayson
Nightwing!! Dick has more of a level head...um....lol....Jason is a good scrapper but he is not as agile as Nightwing and while Nightwing was kick serious A all those years J Todd was dead! Experience and agility take this one! Nightwing!
Na He trained Todd and Held back alot when fighting him recently, (this was mentioned in Nighwing 117) , If dick did not hold back Todd would get slapped, But dick greatest weakness is his ememtions rule him, but they also his greatest strength.
Are you people crazy, Dick could easily beat Todd, he's way more experienced, before i start going on forever with a list let me just put it simple, Dick can do everything Jason can better, its definetley Dick who wins!!
crazy spidey says:
"lol the original Todd was such a fagg#t"
Agreed. Thats why he wins. The power of the rainbow my friend :p
kinda like that guy with the hitler cartman icon? oh wait that is you. Someone as different as you shouldn't be so judgmental
Karmadecoy says:
"kinda like that guy with the hitler cartman icon? oh wait that is you. Someone as different as you shouldn't be so judgmental "
dude the whole point is that I judge everyone. Anyways thats not the point. The point is that nobody liked the original Todd, thats why they killed him off.
no they killed him off because the first batman movie was coming out and it didnt have robin in it so they decided to kill him off.
King of Kings says:
"crazy spidey says:"lol the original Todd was such a fagg#t"Agreed. Thats why he wins. The power of the rainbow my friend :p"
LOl kinda like the batman factor lol.
Karmadecoy says:
"no they killed him off because the first batman movie was coming out and it didnt have robin in it so they decided to kill him off."
ummm no ppl votd in. and no one liked him so they offed the BiAtch. look it up on wikipedia.
yea and it was a small margin that won the reason they decided to start the voting was because of the movie
King of Kings says:
"Karmadecoy says:"yea and it was a small margin that won the reason they decided to start the voting was because of the movie"*cough* bullshit *cough*"
lmao, gotta agree with the King
The Batman comics garnered major attention in 1988 when DC Comics created a 900 number for readers to call to vote on whether Jason Todd, the second Robin, lived or died. Voters decided in favor of Jason's death by a narrow margin of 28 votes.[37] The following year drew more attention to the character, due to the release of the feature 1989 film Batman.
In 1988, Dennis O'Neil suggested that an audience might be attracted to the comics by being afforded the opportunity to influence the creative process.[4] Settling on the idea of telephone poll via a 1-900 number, O'Neil had decided due to discussions with DC Comics president Jenette Kahn that the poll should not be wasted on something insignificant. O'Neil settled on using the poll to determine the fate of Jason Todd. O'Neil said, "The logical candidate was Jason because we had reason to believe that he wasn't that popular anyway. It was a big enough stunt that we couldn't do it with a minor character."[5] Even though Jason Todd was unpopular with readers, O'Neil could not decide what to do with the character, so he opted to present the choice to the readership.[4]
The vote was set up in the four-part story "A Death in the Family" that was published in Batman #426-429 in 1988. At the end of Batman #427, Jason Todd was beaten by the Joker and left to die in an explosion. The inside back cover of the issue listed two 1-900 numbers that readers could call to vote for the character's death or survival. Within the 36 hour period alloted for voting, the poll received 10,614 votes. The verdict in favor of the character's death won by a slim margin of 5,343 votes to 5,271.[6] The following issue of Batman, issue 428, was published featuring Jason Todd's death. Despite the poll results, O'Neil noted, "We did the deed, and we got a blast of hate mail and a blast of negative commentary in the press."[7] A few comics creators voiced their displeasure at the event. Writer/artist Frank Miller, who had worked on Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One, said, "To me the whole killing of Robin of thing was probably the ugliest thing I've seen in comics, and the most cynical."[8], Ironically Frank Miller was the first to suggest the death of Jason Todd, in his graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns. However, DC stood behind the outcome of the poll. O'Neil was quoted on the back cover of A Death in the Family trade paperback collecting the story with Todd's death as saying, "It would be a really sleazy stunt to bring him back."[9] However, O'Neil would later regret his decision.[10]
The Jason Todd Robin was not well-received by fans. Dennis O'Neil, who took over as Batman editor in 1986, said, "They did hate him. I don't know if it was fan craziness--maybe they saw him as usurping Dick Grayson's position. Some of the mail response indicated that this was at least on some people's minds."[3]
Alot of ppl also thought that it was the orginal robin and this cheap rip off
So now were cutting and pasting from Wik, which is written by fans. People weren't calling up to kill Robin off, just because he wasn't going to be in the movie, thats makes no sense what so ever. They voted to kill him because they hated him, always have, always will.
how can you be a cheap rip off to something that you are? he was robin, he could be a grayson rip off but not really a robin rip off cause he was robin.
no not just because they started the poll because of the idea of not having a robin around. kinda like when spider man 3 came out and the whole back in black thing. people see movies and get all pumped about the idea so then the make some changes in the comic to be similar to the movie to sell more books.
Karmadecoy says:
"no not just because they started the poll because of the idea of not having a robin around. kinda like when spider man 3 came out and the whole back in black thing. people see movies and get all pumped about the idea so then the make some changes in the comic to be similar to the movie to sell more books."
You cant compare the two. Robin was killed, and a year later the movie came out. Spidey 3 and Back in Black happened in the same month.
Methos says:
"http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/methosivanhoe/mod/antijasontodd.jpg M"
Lol thats wat I'm taking about... REFUND
http://www.comicvine.com/comic/batman/796/30725/&i=1699 - What is the date on that?
nightwing is more inteligent, more agile, better fighter
the only thing jason has is that he is crazy
Ok I'll explain it to you as best I can.
1. Dick is an acrobat but Jason is more of a fighter.
2. Dick won't kill but Jason will.
3. Jason is street and book smart but Dick is just book smart.
4. Jason was the best fighter of all four Robin's.
5. Jason has beter weapon's then Dick.
Considering that Dick Greyson is going to be the new batman, he would pwn Jason Todd. Not that Jason isn't a badass in his own sense, but the only real advantage he would have is he is more willing to use deadly force to get what he wants, which is only cause he was the Red Hood (Jokers Former Alias) from one of the other earths. The real Jason Todd from Earth 1 is dead so he never could have become as good as dick.
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