Jaime Lannister vs Felix Jaeger

VS

Rules

• In character
• Composite (two hands) Jaime
• Giantslayer Felix
• Standard gear (normal sword for Felix)
• No knowledge
• No prep
• To the death
• Location: Amon Hen

@firefly489: To be honest, and I might be in the minority here, I would argue that Felix stomps. Even at geheimnisnacht, their first adventure together, Felix was a duelist; he had much official training and was rather good at it. Of course Jaime is more than "good" at dueling, and would finesse that version of Felix.

However Felix is one of the most underrated WHF combatans availiable. Already in their first novel he's fighting and beating experienced hunters, goblins, mutants, orcs, undead, and a chaos worshipping nobleman, as well as helping Gotrek beat a chaos troll. Not to mention killing superhumanly strong beastmen with ease. Then in the second novel he is slaughtering groups of skaven, beating gutter runners, beating a plague priest, outright destroying a force of stormvermin, and he beats one of the four greatest duelists in the empire while at a disadvantage. In the third novel he casually dispatches multiple chaos warriors, magically enhanced super-elite fighters with armour that even Felix's magical sword can't scratch. Hell in that novel he manages to call upon the power of the gods to lift a hammer only dwarfs are allowed to lift and use it to injure a bloodthirster. Felix spends every single day for decades adventuring and constantly fighting, and himself is not quite mortal anymore; he's essentially become a demigod warrior. And Giantslayer is essentially peak Felix for all intent and purposes, as the final William King novel.

@cheth: Keep in mind that Felix doesn't have Karaghul in this battle

@firefly489:

Does Felix have his feats despite not wielding Karaghul in the battle? And does he have the residual effects from said weapon and their adventure?

I did not notice that so fair point xD, won't be quite as amazing as usual

But note that it doesn't really change his feats (except later): he only really discovered the magical properties of Karaghul in Dragonslayer; so he was already casually killing chaos warriors (who's armours were immune to karaghul anyways), beastmen, orcs, and stormvermin unamped (the sword would still have magical properties in terms of damage but it still was not too impressive in that category either unactivated). Not to mention that when he fought the 4th best duelist in the empire (and the skaven), he was using a trashy shortsword (which specifically was a hinderance as it was made for sewer brawling while his opponent had a dueling sword)

@cergic: yes, unless the sword played a specific part (like with Skjalandir and the Bloodthirster)

Pre Gotrek felix and trollslayer felix are pretty much the only ones that i could think will lose. Forward on that felix actually becomes a very legendary swordsman in his own right. He is only shadowed by Gotrek (the best melee character IMO), but would stomp jaime if we allow all feats.

This... doesn't seem fair.

@firefly489: Felix should stomp, GoT is way too weak. Imo from what @cheth and @mordhauextreme1 and even @wut have posted, I think even a simple Saurus warrior would defeat jaime without skipping a beat and I have am confident that Felix should defeat one without a ton of issues due to what hes fought in his setting.

@firefly489: felix stomps not even close a standard chaos warrior would beat the breaks off of jaime let alone someone like Felix

No one (as in non-magical human) in ASOIAF history is beating 1vs1 Giantslayer Felix. He is much more in the realm of "superhuman" than Jaime ever can be argued to be. Felix should be well above him in everything, pure swordsmanship skills included.

Peak-humans swordsmen in Warhammer Fantasy are far and well beyond ASOIAF peak-humans swordsmen.