Kira can not hurt Juggs, and although Kira will be able to make Juggs weigh millions of tons relatively quickly - Juggs can not be stopped or hurt by him. It's a draw!
"Kira can not hurt Juggs, and although Kira will be able to make Juggs weigh millions of tons relatively quickly - Juggs can not be stopped or hurt by him. It's a draw!"
I wouldn't say that. If Juggs weighs enough, he'll start sinking into the ground and won't be able to make any sort of headway. It will be a bit like when Spider-Man trapped him in wet cement. That counts as incapacitation in my book.
"Kira can not hurt Juggs, and although Kira will be able to make Juggs weigh millions of tons relatively quickly - Juggs can not be stopped or hurt by him. It's a draw!"
I wouldn't say that. If Juggs weighs enough, he'll start sinking into the ground and won't be able to make any sort of headway. It will be a bit like when Spider-Man trapped him in wet cement. That counts as incapacitation in my book."
I think everyone here seems to have forgotten that Juggs is surrounded by a force field, you can't actually touch him, the weapon won't REALLY hit him, so he won't get any heavier. Kira is wasting time, and loses by default.
No he wouldn't. Juggernaut has no chance of hitting Kira. As with most Juggs fights, the best Juggernaut can hope for is a draw, since he has no effective way of taking the fight to his opponent.
DJ Diesel said:
"I think everyone here seems to have forgotten that Juggs is surrounded by a force field, you can't actually touch him, the weapon won't REALLY hit him, so he won't get any heavier. Kira is wasting time, and loses by default."
So Kira hits the helmet instead, which has been touched, removed and dented in the past. I think even Juggernaut is going to notice if his helmet suddenly weighs twenty times more than normal. Kira's fast enough to hit him dozens of times in a couple seconds.
Or, alternatively, Kira could start messing with the environment. He can fly and can effectively teleport with shunpo, so he can set the terms of the engagement here. He can simply start smacking buildings with Wabisuke until they collapse under their own mass and bury the Juggernaut. He can use kido to slow him down and distract him. Will Juggernaut be able to dig himself out of whatever trap Kira puts him in? Probably, but it will take time, more than enough time to count as an incapacitation and give Kira the win.
No he wouldn't. Juggernaut has no chance of hitting Kira. As with most Juggs fights, the best Juggernaut can hope for is a draw, since he has no effective way of taking the fight to his opponent.
DJ Diesel said:
"I think everyone here seems to have forgotten that Juggs is surrounded by a force field, you can't actually touch him, the weapon won't REALLY hit him, so he won't get any heavier. Kira is wasting time, and loses by default."
So Kira hits the helmet instead, which has been touched, removed and dented in the past. I think even Juggernaut is going to notice if his helmet suddenly weighs twenty times more than normal. Kira's fast enough to hit him dozens of times in a couple seconds.Or, alternatively, Kira could start messing with the environment. He can fly and can effectively teleport with shunpo, so he can set the terms of the engagement here. He can simply start smacking buildings with Wabisuke until they collapse under their own mass and bury the Juggernaut. He can use kido to slow him down and distract him. Will Juggernaut be able to dig himself out of whatever trap Kira puts him in? Probably, but it will take time, more than enough time to count as an incapacitation and give Kira the win."
what makes you think the force field doesnt surrond his entire body? and how about a Thunderclap?that should work ha what the devil,we arent even sure if Kira would be able to double Juggs weight,Juggs is protected by Cytorakk,a major magical being
No he wouldn't. Juggernaut has no chance of hitting Kira. As with most Juggs fights, the best Juggernaut can hope for is a draw, since he has no effective way of taking the fight to his opponent.
DJ Diesel said:
"I think everyone here seems to have forgotten that Juggs is surrounded by a force field, you can't actually touch him, the weapon won't REALLY hit him, so he won't get any heavier. Kira is wasting time, and loses by default."
So Kira hits the helmet instead, which has been touched, removed and dented in the past. I think even Juggernaut is going to notice if his helmet suddenly weighs twenty times more than normal. Kira's fast enough to hit him dozens of times in a couple seconds.Or, alternatively, Kira could start messing with the environment. He can fly and can effectively teleport with shunpo, so he can set the terms of the engagement here. He can simply start smacking buildings with Wabisuke until they collapse under their own mass and bury the Juggernaut. He can use kido to slow him down and distract him. Will Juggernaut be able to dig himself out of whatever trap Kira puts him in? Probably, but it will take time, more than enough time to count as an incapacitation and give Kira the win."
what makes you think the force field doesnt surrond his entire body?and how about a Thunderclap?that should workha what the devil,we arent even sure if Kira would be able to double Juggs weight,Juggs is protected by Cytorakk,a major magical being"
As long as we're making assumptions, we can just as easily say that since Kira is a Death God, he is protected by Death, a major magical being who is higher up the cosmic food chain than Cytorrak. Thus, none of Juggernaut's powers should effect him. :)
I'm assuming what I'm assuming about the forcefield because we've seen people dent and remove Juggernaut's helmet before. If the forcefield protects it, than Rogue shouldn't be able to pry it off, but she has in the past. Anyway, Kira doesn't even need to attack Juggernaut directly to win this fight. Thunderclap might work, but it might not. How often does Juggernaut use this tactic? Regardless, Kira can spend the entire fight in the air and well out of range of a thunderclap. All he needs to do is make enough super-heavy rubble to trap Juggernaut for a little while, and he can do that using only kido and his zanpakuto.
No he wouldn't. Juggernaut has no chance of hitting Kira. As with most Juggs fights, the best Juggernaut can hope for is a draw, since he has no effective way of taking the fight to his opponent.
DJ Diesel said:
"I think everyone here seems to have forgotten that Juggs is surrounded by a force field, you can't actually touch him, the weapon won't REALLY hit him, so he won't get any heavier. Kira is wasting time, and loses by default."
So Kira hits the helmet instead, which has been touched, removed and dented in the past. I think even Juggernaut is going to notice if his helmet suddenly weighs twenty times more than normal. Kira's fast enough to hit him dozens of times in a couple seconds.Or, alternatively, Kira could start messing with the environment. He can fly and can effectively teleport with shunpo, so he can set the terms of the engagement here. He can simply start smacking buildings with Wabisuke until they collapse under their own mass and bury the Juggernaut. He can use kido to slow him down and distract him. Will Juggernaut be able to dig himself out of whatever trap Kira puts him in? Probably, but it will take time, more than enough time to count as an incapacitation and give Kira the win."
what makes you think the force field doesnt surrond his entire body?and how about a Thunderclap?that should workha what the devil,we arent even sure if Kira would be able to double Juggs weight,Juggs is protected by Cytorakk,a major magical being"
As long as we're making assumptions, we can just as easily say that since Kira is a Death God, he is protected by Death, a major magical being who is higher up the cosmic food chain than Cytorrak. Thus, none of Juggernaut's powers should effect him. :)I'm assuming what I'm assuming about the forcefield because we've seen people dent and remove Juggernaut's helmet before. If the forcefield protects it, than Rogue shouldn't be able to pry it off, but she has in the past. Anyway, Kira doesn't even need to attack Juggernaut directly to win this fight. Thunderclap might work, but it might not. How often does Juggernaut use this tactic? Regardless, Kira can spend the entire fight in the air and well out of range of a thunderclap. All he needs to do is make enough super-heavy rubble to trap Juggernaut for a little while, and he can do that using only kido and his zanpakuto."
the thing is,Juggs rarely uses his force-field,if it wasnt for his ego,the X-Men never would have won a single fight against him Juggs doesnt makes a T-Clap very often,but he probaly will when he realise he isnt fast enought to tag with Kira and how is fling means he will dodge the Thunderclap?that sounds strange since for it "work" you have to hear it,i dont think Kira could escape from it,besides who says he can only do it once?if it affects Kira,Juggs can just keep doing more and more until he finaly wins i am unsure how being heavier would affect Juggs,but i supose it wont be much,because he isnt THAT heavy and his strength is easy beyond 200 tons,besides doesnt Juggs get stronger as he needs to be?i heard that before,but i am not sure
Just a note on mathematics. Kira's Zanpakuto increases weight exponentially. Each time multiplying the current weight by 2. So 2,4,8,16,32,64. After just a half dozen hits even Juggernaut would notice the weight of whatever was hit. Whether it was the helmet or something Kira dropped on him.
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