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Poll IW Thanos and Iron Man vs DCEU Faora and Nam-Ek (82 votes)

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Team one in a landslide

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Team two and it isn't close, an argument could be made for either soloing to be honest

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#5  Edited By rem

Team 2. Iron man is a Fodder and they beat thanos.

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@rem: he has the power gem ffs ?

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Tony is the weak link. Team DCEU wins.

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#9  Edited By rem

@variant06 said:

@rem: he has the power gem ffs ?

And? Your Point? IM literally held his own against thanos casually. Who has inferior stats to either of these two.

Thanos used PG blast to fight mostly, and IM withstood it, and go figure, these two have better duribilty feats than IM.

This isn’t 616 Thanos...

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Team 1. Thanos MVP.

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Thanos stomps

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@rem: oh im sorry I forgot to to just automatically assume they were more durable than Tony. I guess his meteor feat doesn’t exist. And of course because they are just more durable than him... him tanking the power gem in a concentrated beam was totally unimpressive. Of course because why would a beam from a stone shown to wipe out the surface of a planet and destroy a giant ship be impressive? Ya it’s I actually think Iron man doesn’t have inferior stats... especially due to him fighting Thanos. He couldn’t fight Thanos if he wasn’t strong enough.

Thanos creams these too EASILY.

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Thanos rips off Iron Man's armor and impales the duo with it.

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Team 2

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Team DCEU.

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#18  Edited By GeorgeWBush

Faora hitting Superman into a bank door >>>>>> a meteor apparently lol

Anyways neither strike with that level of force, so there’s no reason to suggest they can break Tony’s armor. Meanwhile Tony can blow up Faoras mask and then KO her with his arsenal

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@georgewbush:

Faora hitting Superman into a bank door >>>>>> a meteor apparently lol

She threw him into one. Given how Thanos beat Tony's stupid ass, Faora would do the same

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Both IM and Thanos are too durable for them, and Thanos has the power stone. So MCU get my vote.

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#21  Edited By rem

@variant06 said:

@rem: oh im sorry I forgot to to just automatically assume they were more durable than Tony. I guess his meteor feat doesn’t exist. And of course because they are just more durable than him... him tanking the power gem in a concentrated beam was totally unimpressive.

The ACTUAL PG blast has little to no feats.

Of course because why would a beam from a stone shown to wipe out the surface of a planet and destroy a giant ship be impressive?

Which thanos has NEVER show to do. Surface wiping was done by a way more powerful PG user. Celeste didn’t even use a PG blast to wipe the surface.

Ya it’s I actually think Iron man doesn’t have inferior stats... especially due to him fighting Thanos. He couldn’t fight Thanos if he wasn’t strong enough.

As soon as thanos got his shit together, he immedently stomped him without using the PG blast. And thanos stats are nowhere near these twos. (especially nam ek) him lifting a train, catching a blitzing superman,throwing a train, and tanking A-10 bullets while getting punched repeatedly is better than anything IM has done.

Thanos creams these too EASILY.

Keep telling yourself that.

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@rem: The PG blast was obliderating bolders in his fight with strange iirc.

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@rem: The PG blast was obliderating bolders in his fight with strange iirc.

Good to know.

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This is quite enlightening honestly.. shows you who is straight up biased and who isn’t.. The idea of faora soloing Thanos with the power gem and stark is so laughable it’s actually sad. @jedixman: @rougeshadow: this is worthy of a lock, it truly is. Power gem Thanos is simply too strong for either of these characters

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@rem: The directors clearly said that Thanos was not putting nearly any effort in to his fights in IW. The only time he really cut loose with the power gem was when he ripped a moon apart.

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@xzone said:

@rem: The directors clearly said that Thanos was not putting nearly any effort in to his fights in IW. The only time he really cut loose with the power gem was when he ripped a moon apart.

What does that have to do with anything? But that is utterly irrelevant considering the fact that he’s never showed it. if a character has power, but never uses it, we cannot scale them based on power

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Either can solo tony but with the power gym the MCU team wins.

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@rem: Nam-Ek lifting a train isn't that impressive. Thanos crushing the Tessaract is tho

Nam-Ek caught a Superman who wasn't even focused on him.

Considering Kyrpotians are basically immune to bullets, that's not really a big feat.

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Thanos wins

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@rem: Nam-Ek lifting a train isn't that impressive. Thanos crushing the Tessaract is tho

Lmao. Unquantifiable, unless you want to try to. Neither on team 1 have dont anything close to that.

Nam-Ek caught a Superman who wasn't even focused on him.

Did you even watch the movie? Clark was getting ragdolled by the duo and tried to fly away but nam ek counght him and smashed him down.

Considering Kyrpotians are basically immune to bullets, that's not really a big feat.

Considering the fact that A-10 bullets were casually ripping the ground apart, and he tanked those while tanking punches from superman without any damage, that is a big feat.

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Lol Tony weak link...he curbs Namek and Thanos stomps Faora...Mismatch...

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@rem: Considering the Tessaract is a can destroy a military base with ease and open up wormholes and Thanos casually crushed it in his hands I'd say that's far more impressive than lifting a little piece of a random train that was already partly destroyed

Superman had to actually get up off the ground and considering Nam-Ek was inches away from him, that's not really a big feat. Also because Superman had never been in a fight before until that day and didn't even have full mastery over his powers yet (Nam-Ek lost that fight lol)

Yeah, still don't see how that's impressive. Like, is he just gonna become vulnerable to bullets now because he was taking punches from Superman while having armor on?

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Team two and it isn't close, an argument could be made for either soloing to be honest

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@rem: Considering the Tessaract is a can destroy a military base with ease and open up wormholes and Thanos casually crushed it in his hands I'd say that's far more impressive than lifting a little piece of a random train that was already partly destroyed

Again. Unquantifiable. Thanos didn’t even crush the tesseract. He crushed the box, which is unquamtifible.

Superman had to actually get up off the ground and considering Nam-Ek was inches away from him, that's not really a big feat. Also because Superman had never been in a fight before until that day and didn't even have full mastery over his powers yet (Nam-Ek lost that fight lol)

what does superman getting up have to do anything with speed? The point is, superman attempted to fly away, but nam-ek caught him.

Yeah, still don't see how that's impressive. Like, is he just gonna become vulnerable to bullets now because he was taking punches from Superman while having armor on?

Tanking punches from superman effortlessly is much better than tanking bullets. I dont really care if you find that impressive tbh. It better than anything Iron man has done.

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@rem: Except he did crush the Tessaract.

Because you're not adding context. None of what you're saying actually even matters as Superman wasn't focused on him. We also have no idea how fast he was going anyway.

Iron Man tanking a metor is far more impressive than taking punches from Superman.

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Thanos got out-reacted by Spider-Man...He's not sluggin it out here.....Iron-Man had more trouble with Cull than he should have if anyone thinks he can take Nam-Ek......Not only was Cull phased from attacks from Spider-Man, got put on his ass by Black Panther's vibranium shock wave and ultimately had no legitimate strength feats other than knocking Iron Man around and wrecking 50% of the Hulk buster before getting owned by technology.....I'm not confident in Stark's chances against either Kryptonian as they are arguably stronger and decisively faster than people who've given the Marvel team trouble ..... it'll be easier for them to remove the gauntlet and stomp Thanos under these conditions

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@rem: Except he did crush the Tessaract.

Except for you have yet to quantify it. And if he did crush the tesseract, he wouldn’t have it throughout the movie. Go figure.

Because you're not adding context. None of what you're saying actually even matters as Superman wasn't focused on him. We also have no idea how fast he was going anyway.

You’re reaching at this point. its irrelevant if he was paying attention to nam ek or not, he was obviously trying to get away. Supermans travel speed is far above Mach 15. and in JL, he was moving at Mach 22. Nam ek reacting to him is a extremely good feat.

Iron Man tanking a metor is far more impressive than taking punches from Superman.

no, it’s not. Because if it was, IM wouldn’t have gotten trashed by thanos 2 minutes later, one again, thanos has inferior stats to kryptonians. IM was getting trashed with someone with inferior strenth feats to nam ek.

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@rem: There is no "if", it was the Tessaract. This is obvious to anyone who actually paid attention to the film. And don't really have to quantify it. I already laid out 2 facts that prove it's a better feat than lifting a party destroyed train (not even the full train anyway)

It actually does matter if he was paying attention or not. So you have no idea how fast he was in that 1 little second?

It actually is better and all that does is prove how strong Thanos punches are which doesn't help your argument in any way.

And Thanos has superior stats to every Kryptonian except Superman and Doomsday.

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#39  Edited By deltahuman

Team DCEU wins if Thanos is jobbing (if he doesn't use the power stone wisely like he did on Titan). Otherwise Thanos wins.

Nam-Ek dismantled an armoured A-10 Thunderbolt in 3 seconds. Tony is a non factor here. Tony also lacks the striking power or damage output to do something more than just scratch the Kryptonians. Either Faora or Nam-Ek can give him the Thanos treatment and rip off his armour. He's basically done after that.

Thanos lacks the speed to even tag the Kryptonians. Going by how Drax, Nebula and Spiderman were staggering him with hits, Nam-Ek and Faora tag teaming would absolutely destroy him.

Thanos has a fair chance if he uses the power stone at full power though.

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We all have seen how Tony doesn't really have any reaction feats to react to someone as fast as DCEU Kryptonians.

Neither does Thanos. Thanos was getting hit by Spiderman and he still got staggered.

I wonder what would happen if a Krytopnian lands a good hit.

The meteor feat for Tony which is impressive is also an outlier since earlier in the movie Cull was beating him and Cull's hits were stopped by Spiderman himself.

DCEU Kryptonians probably win if Thanos doesn't use the power stone for an area attack that'd destroy everything around him.

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#41  Edited By MethoKi

@ancient_0f_days said:

Thanos got out-reacted by Spider-Man...He's not sluggin it out here.....Iron-Man had more trouble with Cull than he should have if anyone thinks he can take Nam-Ek......Not only was Cull phased from attacks from Spider-Man, got put on his ass by Black Panther's vibranium shock wave and ultimately had no legitimate strength feats other than knocking Iron Man around and wrecking 50% of the Hulk buster before getting owned by technology.....I'm not confident in Stark's chances against either Kryptonian as they are arguably stronger and decisively faster than people who've given the Marvel team trouble ..... it'll be easier for them to remove the gauntlet and stomp Thanos under these conditions

Don't let Noone hear you say that....

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@deltahuman: Drax, Nebula, and Spider-Man were able to move him when he wasn't really defending against their attacks, but he took zero damage from them, so let's not use that as an example.

As for this fight, it depends on how the power stone is used like you said. Some power stone attacks just lock on to a target automatically and can't be dodged as they just appear. He can also do AOE to counter team 2's speed advantage. But Thanos will be carrying team 1, though Iron Man quite literally can distract team 2 and last a little bit. Thanos should be stronger than anyone on team 2 (even if it's not by a ton), but he's not as fast. But he isn't really slow either and can be fast/react quickly when he wants to.

On Titan,Thanos was still mourning and the death of Gamora was fresh, so he likely wasn't in the best mindset for battle. So Thanos wasn't really jobbing but legitimately hindered during that battle.

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Thanos got out-reacted by Spider-Man...

Lol.

He's not sluggin it out here.....

Lol

Iron-Man had more trouble with Cull than he should have

His 1 casual punch made Cull gather himself... Regardless, Tony>Cull>>>Hulk buster who has better striking feats than anything the due have done.

Not only was Cull phased from attacks from Spider-Man

Proof?

, got put on his ass by Black Panther's vibranium shock wave

1. It was a sneak attack from behind.

2. We have no idea how much kinetic energy panther had charged up. Like literally no idea.

3. The scene finished the second cull dropped to the floor and we have no idea how he handled that attack immediately after that. Seeing as he was wrecking the hulk buster later on i'll say he handled it fine.

and ultimately had no legitimate strength feats

I can agree to this.

other than knocking Iron Man

Tony was undamaged after his strike.

around and wrecking 50% of the Hulk buster before getting owned by technology

Bolded is irrelevant to the fight as none of the combatant have wakandan technology or can replicate a force field durable enough to take bombardment and shockwaves from ships landing on the ground at reentry speeds.

I'm not confident in Stark's chances against either Kryptonian as they are arguably stronger

Tony did carry and push a building at Thanos, but meh, whatever. Faora has no strength feats tho.

and decisively faster

Faora? Maybe, Nam-EK? No.

than people who've given the Marvel team trouble

Such as?

it'll be easier for them to remove the gauntlet and stomp Thanos under these conditions.

Thanos beats them. Plain and simple.

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@rem: There is no "if", it was the Tessaract. This is obvious to anyone who actually paid attention to the film. And don't really have to quantify it. I already laid out 2 facts that prove it's a better feat than lifting a party destroyed train (not even the full train anyway)

Listen, if he crushed the actual tesseract, how did he have it throughout the film.

not surprise you cannot quantify it, And untill you can, you cannot tell me how impressive it is therefore, it’s irrelevant in this discussion. End of story.

It actually does matter if he was paying attention or not. So you have no idea how fast he was in that 1 little second?

Lmao I just told you, he moves at Mach 15 at the minimum. If you want to ignore feats that’s fine with me.

It actually is better and all that does is prove how strong Thanos punches are which doesn't help your argument in any way.

Thanos ha sclose to no feats without

And Thanos has superior stats to every Kryptonian except Superman and Doomsday.

Flat out wrong. Thanos barley has any feats without scaling to hulk. lets see speed faora and nam ek > thanos strenth nam ek > thanos. duribility > team.

thanos was getting hurt by Spider-Man’s punches, dazed by caps jabs, and hurt by star lords small bomb.

Untill you can actually quanify feats that are so impressive. This debate is over.

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@rem: Because the Tessaract isn't the Space Stone. The Tessaract is what holds it together. Like, how do you not know this?

Already told you how it's more impressive but you're choosing to be stubborn.

So you can't actually tell me how fast he was going in that percise moment, correct?

He actually does.

Thanos is stronger than Nam-Ek and more durable than both Faora and Nam-Ek.

Thanos never got hurt by Spider-Man. He was more focused on getting Strange's cloak off him than anything else.

When was he ever dazed by Cap's jabs? I mean, do you actually know what that word even means?

Thanos got hit by a bomb that actually seemed to produce some type or electricity, it also is an alien bomb, not an Earth one. And hurt? Thanos falling to the ground for 3 seconds does not = hurt. Please stop spewing out nonsense.

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@rem: Because the Tessaract isn't the Space Stone. The Tessaract is what holds it together. Like, how do you not know this?

Already told you how it's more impressive but you're choosing to be stubborn.

So you can't actually tell me how fast he was going in that percise moment, correct?

He actually does.

Thanos is stronger than Nam-Ek and more durable than both Faora and Nam-Ek.

Thanos never got hurt by Spider-Man. He was more focused on getting Strange's cloak off him than anything else.

When was he ever dazed by Cap's jabs? I mean, do you actually know what that word even means?

Thanos got hit by a bomb that actually seemed to produce some type or electricity, it also is an alien bomb, not an Earth one. And hurt? Thanos falling to the ground for 3 seconds does not = hurt. Please stop spewing out nonsense.

Only read the top and you still can not quantify how much force it takes to crush the tesseract box like I said, if you cannot do that, or actually prove to me that thanos is stronger, this debate Is over.

Good day.

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@rem: A scientist already calculated the force he would need to be able to fo that.

Let's see Thanos takes out the Hulk in 10 seconds, one shots Drax (one of the more durable characters in the MCU), was able to break Strange's shield with a simple kick (keep in mind Strange's shield was holding off blast/attacks from Dorammu for awhile on numerous occasions), completely destroys Iron Man's suit that tanked chunks of a damn moon, one shots Cap, one shots Nebula, etc. And this is without me mentioning the power Stone attacks he used.

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#48  Edited By rem

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@rem: A scientist already calculated the force he would need to be able to fo that.

Then tell me.

Let's see Thanos takes out the Hulk in 10 seconds, one shots Drax

Super solider level, not impressive.(one of the more durable characters in the MCU), was able to break Strange's shield with a simple kick (keep in mind Strange's shield was holding off blast/attacks from Dorammu for awhile on numerous occasions)

Feats for dorammus blast?

, completely destroys Iron Man's suit that tanked chunks of a damn moon,

ABC logic does not work here. Thanos punched him in the face repeatedly, while the moon hit him once in the body.

one shots Cap, one shots Nebula, etc.

Not impressive to oneshot spreeer levels.

And this is without me mentioning the power Stone attacks he used.

The PG blast? Again featless.

If your next post is not you quantiifying the force needed to destroy the tesseract, I’m ending this debate because it is going nowhere. You stating a scientist did it, but not giving me proof is a waste of time. You if would make more since if you just admitted base thanos doesn’t have the feats yet, but he could in the near future.

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@rem: A little over 40,000 tons of force he would need to output to crush it.

Super soldier are peak humans and Thanos one shot.

Dorammu is the strongest MCU character by far (besides full IG Thanos). Him killing Strange again and again proves that. Strange couldn't actually beat Dorammu with his own power, so he had to use the TS.

Thanos punched Iron Man once and shards of his mask came off (keep in mind Iron Man's nanotech was pretty much invincible until he ran into Thanos). He got hit by a moon once and that didn't destroy anything. His suit was in perfect condition.

Not even sure what a spreeer even is but ok.

Let's see it one shot Drax, Nebula, Star-Lord, Winter Soldier, and O'koye with 3 of them being enhanced. Its shown of being able to completely knock users out. And if you consider the moon feat a power blast it also did that.

Ironically your sentence doesn't actually make sense.

Base Thanos has held a bare Infinity Stone on 3 separate occasions and it did absolutely nothing to him. Nam-Ek has done what, get a few licks on someone who's never fought?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/18/a-scientist-calculated-the-ludicrous-strength-of-marvel-villain-thanos/

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#50  Edited By Mrnoital

either Kryptonian can smack Tony around the same way Cull was, Tony clearly doesn't do well against strong brutes in that suit

Thanos is questionable, he clearly holds back as he didn't kill a single person with the power gam at any point, he blast plenty of people, but didn't kill a single one, and in the end I see this ending as a 2 on 1 (Thanos will definitely last longer than Tony, and he'll probably have a lot of trouble hitting someone as fast as Faora, he had trouble reacting to Spiderman

either team DC, or Thanos just loses it and goes out of character trying to kill with the power gem, but at this point I'll have to say DC