IW Black Widow Vs Netflix Daredevil

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#1  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

Black widow gets all gear she has in infinity war. And Matt gets any gear that can be considered standard such as his club. No prep, morals on, and fight takes place in the wakandan battlefield from the end of infinity war.

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Round 1-h2h no gear

Round 2-standard gear

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Natt wins with gear as Matt has no counters to shock batons

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Matt both rounds

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Black Widow

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BW for the second round, DD for the first.

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Matt stomps R1. R2 could go either way, but leaning towards Widow.

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Round 1, Matt Stomps.

Round 2, eh,toss up. Matt is agile enough to not get tagged, but in the event he does. Widow will take it.

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#9  Edited By The_Justiciar

Matt should win the first round

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Widow stomps both rounds.

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Natasha has zero feats without gear against anyone on Matt's level, she gets beaten easy in the first round

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How does Matt stomp anything?

Do people even know what stomp means?

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@richubs: He thoroughly outclasses her in skill, is faster and physically superior. Why won't he stomp?

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Round 1: Matt

Round 2: Natasha

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@rbt: Not really. He doesn't out class her in skill. He won't survive as long against the winter soldier as she did.

Plus Natasha was destroying Ultron Bots which were bulletproof. She's no weakling.

He's more durable than her that I'll give him but it's no way a stomp.

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People are so desperate for Nat to be good that getting demolished and running away from Bucky is now a feat.

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Mat stomps round 1 and can arguably win round 2 as well but the majority goes to Black Widow.

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@richubs:

Not really. He doesn't out class her in skill. He won't survive as long against the winter soldier as she did.

He survived far longer against a far more skilled and faster combatant, unarmed, while she was armed with dual swords. Nat got floored in 10 seconds tops against Buck while she had assistance from Agent Carter.

Plus Natasha was destroying Ultron Bots which were bulletproof. She's no weakling.

Not with bare hands, no.

He's more durable than her that I'll give him but it's no way a stomp.

He has the advantage all across the board though. He is stronger than her. And the skill gap is pretty wide. Dancing around Elektra, who is a couple tier above Nat in skill going by her fodder feats, for as long as he did is simply above Nat's capabilities.

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#19  Edited By AvengingWidow

@rbt: He outclasses her physically LoL

I don't think matt can do the things widow does

•Sends Corvus Glaive flying with a kick

•Takes Down Hawkeye that could out skill Panther

•Survives a knee to the face form proxima midnight and gets up quickly

•Puts Proxima on defensive before okoye came in

•Her strikes stagger Proxima that could survive Blasts for Wanda

•Dodges A grenade launcher twice

I don't even see matt doing so well against Black Panther like Clint Did just Saying and fighting someone that Above any Super soldier

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@morpheus_: Why using widow low showings and Matt gets beats up by random fodder

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Widow curbstomps both rounds, hell, she probably one-shots him in round 2.

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@morpheus_: Why using widow low showings and Matt gets beats up by random fodder

There is a tendency for people to exaggerate Natasha's feats even though she's barely done anything in the MCU.

Now by all means, lecture me about using low/high showings after you reply to every Black Widow thread in existence explaining how she wins.

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Matt’s H2h is just too good, Matt wins pretty handily

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@morpheus_: You know why because people underrate her

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@richubs: lol he definitely outclasses her in skill along with having insane senses she doesn’t stand a chance

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@rbt: Yes am using my main account

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@morpheus_: You know why because people underrate her

I neither underrate nor overrate her, just trying to judge her dispassionately. Nobody is free of biases but it's all I've ever tried doing.

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@rbt: She's in no way weak.

She could visibly hurt WS. Her kick to the chitauri soldier sent him flying away.

She was able to beat a mind controlled Hawkeye.

She took down 2 guys while tied to a chair.

She was able to fight with Proxima Midnight for a while which is really good.

She was able to get back up like it's nothing when she fell off of Hulk's back.

Remember when she broke the chair on one of the guys in Avengers 1? That'd mess up any human's back badly while she got up like nothing.

She's definitely not going down in a stomp no matter what.

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@jgehrand9: His "insane" senses aren't enough for him to stomp her.

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@richubs: his combat prowess is a lot better as well she just wouldn’t keep up

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round 1: matt

round 2: probably natasha

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Widow wins both rounds

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Matt R1, Nat wrecks R2.

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R1: Matt murderstomps in first round.

R2: Ehhh... Not sure.. since most of her feats were with toys and gears it can get close but I'm leaning toward Matt (No PIS of course)

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Matt stomps in R1, Widow stomps R2.

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1. Matt. Just has every advantage. At least as fast, stronger and more skilled. Should take it 8-9/10

2. Widow pretty solidly.

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Matt probably. The only thing I am not sure about is the shock batons might conduct through his Billy club so I don't think he can parry her attacks. Not super impressed with Widow. She has good fodder wrecking feats but I find Matt's showings against named characters to be better and more impressive. Mostly because I think his opposition in one on one fights is better, or when Widow does fight greater opposition than Matt she never does it on her own.

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Matt stomps.

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Matt both rounds

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@sy8000: finally someone who knows something ??

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Black Widow wins both rounds.

Matt is the fodder of the MCU.

Fodder seems a bit of a harsh overstatement. Matt is certainly comparable to Natasha, I'd argue he takes round one through shear durability though he loses round two handily.

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Matt should take both rounds honestly.

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Matt should take both rounds honestly.

Matt doesn't have any electricity resistance feats though. Shock batons could be a legit problem.

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@rbt said:
@danieldaripper said:

Matt should take both rounds honestly.

Matt doesn't have any electricity resistance feats though. Shock batons could be a legit problem.

He could just block/dodge those hits like he did Elektra.

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Matt. Nat has a good chance in round 2 though

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@rbt said:
@danieldaripper said:

Matt should take both rounds honestly.

Matt doesn't have any electricity resistance feats though. Shock batons could be a legit problem.

He could just block/dodge those hits like he did Elektra.

Probably, though I think his batons are metal as well. If he tries to block them, it might not end well for him.