Itachi vs Manga Shigaraki and Prime All For One

They have absolutely nothing in their arsenal to suggest that they could pull one over on Itachi at any point in his adulthood. They're too slow and his susanno negates any dumb regeneration arguments.

either of the duo can solo

Prime Allmight > Star and Stripe who would 1 shot Itachi Susanoo

@wabubub: Decay ggs. All for One can literally steal all of Itachis abilities.

Most people underestimate MHA as a weak verse and it was for a while but Shiggy decaying a huge part of a city back in my villian Academia set him as a monster with his decay all he needs to do is touch thr ground and the none flying itachi is good as dead

Itachi still glares.

Team smoke itachi

Itachi one shots them both

Itachi is outmatched in physicals. It's just that he has mind-hax which is pretty hard to beat.

^^^ if you ate talking about genjutsu, then itachi is completely hopeless and has no wincon in this battle since the AFO we are using is the one that has casuality manipulation due to rewind and i have, and i have also never seen itachi genjutsu working on someone with more than hundreds soul

Itachi wins with mid-high difficulty. Izanami and Tsukiyomi are the only thing that Itachi has that can win this battle.

Can't he seal them with the totska blade ?

All I see are Itachi's Victims.

@savage_emperor1: what does having a hundred souls have to do with the one brain gets genjutsu fried.

Totsuka blade one izanami the other

Gg

Team easily

Itachi solos the verse

what stops itachi from blitzing and sealing them with totsuka?

or just blitzing and beheading them lmao

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

Itachi wins, he might not be physically strong enough but sealing teq and mind-hax is going to do everything.

@saxz

The souls inside him usually snap him out from stuff like mind manipulation, just like deku who was able to snap out of shinso brain washing quirk due to ofa.

I honestly don't think itachi could take out shigi in a 1on 1 battle, so team stomps itachi

I don’t think One for All or All for One is enough to resist Itachi’s genjutsu. MHA mental resistance is limited to resisting Shinso, who has basic TP.

@savage_emperor1:

The first problem is that shinso's brainwashing is the most basic of TP. Forget souls even a pinch would snap you out of that At best you can compare it to the Lowest level genjutsu in Naruto which can also be bypassed by pain.

That's nothing compared to Itachi who can hijack your entire mind and lock it up in mental spaces.

Keep in mind Itachi suffering from his illness isn’t great at drawn out fights, and a Tsukiyomi would be a massive waste of energy which he won’t know till he uses. It won’t mentally incap someone who can switch personalities/souls

He wouldn’t know going in what they can do or what they offer, he could seal them but he would have to get to that point. Genjutsu largely isn’t doing it especially basic genjutsu which can be broken out by having multiple people inside of you or physical shock. Meanwhile if he even gets tapped by something like decay he is dead, he would definitely be able to take this with knowledge but without it I’m not sure.

The team would be hard to take down without sealing, with Shigaraki‘s regen and AFO’s rewind

@saxz:

But the fact still remains, deku broke out of it due to ofa and not with any form of physical attacks, and in this current war arc shinso was able to use brainwashing on aoyama parents to deceive afo who has a quirk that can sense lie

@savage_emperor1:

And I am telling you the level Itachi operates on make that resistance feat practically irrelevant.

Itachi has mentally ragdolled people who have faced worse and have better resistances than that.

Itachi still, probably. But sick Itachi is certainly not soloing the verse, lacks the stamina to do so.

@saxz:

And I am telling you the level Itachi operates on make that resistance feat practically irrelevant.

Itachi has mentally ragdolled people who have faced worse and have better resistances than that.

That might be true. But I think the best way to treat their genjutsu resistance would be to compare it to the Jinchuriki. Since they (at least Shigaraki and OFA holders) have vessels inside of them able to pull them out and aid them mentally. I don't think current AFO would have this resistance though.

Therefore I'd probably treat their level of resistance on a similar level as someone who's friendly with their tailed beast, like Killer B. Albeit without the experience of and with genjutsu of course.

@belando: only shigaraki has that kind of jinjuriki like situation but OFA on the other hand doesn't have people in his head.

Itachi is blitzes.

Yes, and I assume you meant AFO. As I said, "at least Shigaraki and OFA holders".

@belando: mental resistance doesnt really matter anyways because tsukuyomi is to quick to be broken out of and izanami is izanami

@notaname: Sure. I'm just saying the vessels in MHA would function in a similar way to a Jinchuriki getting help from their tailed beast, as an in verse reference. Someone inside of them aiding or snapping them out of it.

@belando: i agree, but that would only work are regular sharingan genjutsu, not tsukuyomi

One of the first things sick Itachi did was throw enough kunai to solo the verse. There are less than ten people who could survive a normal edged weapon in MHA.

@Saxz:

I don't what level you are talking about, but resistance is resistance and it doesn't care about any scale

Itachi should win because he has a lot more options. He will actively use substitutions and Genjutsu the moment he even sees them. If his mind hax do not work for some reason. Then he will just seal them with the Totsuka Blade. Sussano Armor will keep him from getting one shot.

@Saxz:

My statement could be considered ignorant, if shigaraki resistance was something like todoroki own where his body is just naturally resistance to fire and ice. Shigaraki own resistance doesn't come from him, but from the souls that are inside of him which could easily snap him out of whatever trance he is in.

Now lets not forget that their someone like AFO here, and itachi has no wincon against him.

Team stomps

@savage_emperor1:

It doesn't matter if the resistance comes from the souls or not, it's still his resistance. Deku resisting shinso isn't even about the souls, there's nothing special about them. Shinso's ability can be resisted by a third party intervention whether that third party be a residual consciousness or a random person tapping them to end the trance, It is that fickle. A third party snapping you out doesn't work for Itachi's genjutsu at all, you can beat the shit out of the person and they would still be in a genjutsu. The point is Shinso's brainwashing is fodder and it isn't a metric that grant resistance to higher tier abilities.

Moreover All this wouldn't matter if he uses Tsukiyomi because because due to the massive time dilation the damage would be long done before any interference

What do you mean Itachi has no wincon against AFO. Lol. He has several, what exactly does AFO have.

non of itachi's abilities is a quirk so how does AFO steal them exactly

@agustos: due to verse equalization bruh… how is Itachi affecting Them in any way if they don’t have Chakra? 🥸💀

Genjutsu requiring chakra to function is fanfiction based on statement misinterpretation , worst of all its already debunked and the statements " supporting " it are proven to be misinterpretation of statements , so this argument doesn't work against itachi

@ilyas97: OP didn't mention any equalization

@maulsmacker: right so this match up is unfair and should be closed since the OP had a winner in mind when he made the matchup.

@godlyshinigami: I don't understand how do they beat Sharigan?

@Saxz:

Genjutsu can also be resisted by a third party, so by your logic genjutsu can also be considered a foddler ability (OK), did you even watch the anime or read the manga at all, cause if you have you would have seen the 7 OFA spirit that was watching deku, and even in the aftermath of deku vs shinso battle deku went and told all might about the spirit he saw when he was caught in shinso quirk and the Manda clearly implied that it was ofa that snap him out of the trance he was in.

Genjutsu is not a wincon for itachi since shigi can be snapped out of it easily due to him having multiple souls

And what is also stopping shigi from putting itachi in his own illusion since his own could be done passively

AFO rewind removes cause and effect, what does itachi have, cause all i am seeing is decay and illusion gg

Yes fodder genjutsu can be resisted by a third-party interference but this isn't fodder genjutsu being talked about here is it?

I never Said OFA didn't help him resist. I said OFA isn't special in that regard. Shinso brainwashing is just that weak to be easily snapped out from Itachi's is not.

You have to prove that shigi can snap out of it because, Itachi has explicitly proven that you can snap out if his genjutsu.

Sharingan is resistant to illusions so null point on that. On top Sharingan can reflects illusions cast on it back to the sender so AFO would be dooming himself. Decay won't tag Itachi because I see him ending it with genjutsu before it ever gets to that.

How does AFO deal with Amatersu a fire that won't go out by any means?

How does he deal with the illusions? He won't be touching the real Itachi anytime soon.

How does he deal with having his mind dragged out of how conscious to another mental plane and tortured for decades before one second even passes.?

How does he deal with having his soul stolen and sealed by totsuka

Prime All For one was supposed to have thousands of abilities. It’s really about how much do you believe in his hype train.

@mickey-mouse: Thousands? That sounds pretty wild.

A Third Party isn't doing shit to Tsukuyomi lmao.