War Arc Kakashi and non-sick Itachi
Genjutsu and Sharingan hax like Amaterasu , Susanoo etc are strictly forbidden.
Round 1: Taijutsu only .
Round 2 : Taijutsu and Ninjutsu only .
War Arc Kakashi and non-sick Itachi
Genjutsu and Sharingan hax like Amaterasu , Susanoo etc are strictly forbidden.
Round 1: Taijutsu only .
Round 2 : Taijutsu and Ninjutsu only .
Itachi should have round 1, as he's been shown to be able to keep up with chakra mode Naruto, and killer B. I'll give round 2 to Kakashi, he's shown to have better ninjutsu.
Itachi wins round 1.
Does Itachi have any ninjitsu besides fire ball jutsu besides the ones you’ve limited? If not Kakashi probably wins round 2 via more feats. You basically just took all of Itachi’s moves away.
@alextheboss: He has a few water style jutsu. Water clones. Water clones explosions. Water drill bullet or whatever it's called. Crow clones. His shuriken jutsu shoot out with Sasuke was insanely impressive. He was fast enough to weave handsigns for a clone in the midst of his shuriken jutsu.
Kakashi both rounds, significantly superior feats in both aspects. Whether its sparring with Guy or fighting multiple v2 Jinchuriki while playing around.
Fighting Base Bee and KCM who were just talking isnt enough to label him faster than Kakashi who directly outsped Naruto twice to save him.
kakashi both rounds by feats.
Round 1:
in taijutsu by war arc kakashi is impressive,
war arc kakashi physically has matched or fought;
obito,tendo path,hidan,kakazu,Gai(up to 6th gate for sure iirc),itachi himself,several jinchuriki/tailed beasts,hidden mist swordsman,zabuza both alive and as Edo
each one with a completely different fighting style.
Round 2:
kakashi mid difficulty. adding ninjutsu is just all around bad for itachi.
he has way too versatile of a justu roster.
from fire/water/earth style moves hes copied to his specialty lighting style moves to his summons i dont see how itachi would work around him and he has plenty to take itachi by surprise.
Kakashi both rounds, significantly superior feats in both aspects. Whether its sparring with Guy or fighting multiple v2 Jinchuriki while playing around.
Fighting Base Bee and KCM who were just talking isnt enough to label him faster than Kakashi who directly outsped Naruto twice to save him.
This, not to mention that Naruto had his chakra split between multiple clones who were fighting at the front lines.
Kakashi both rounds, significantly superior feats in both aspects. Whether its sparring with Guy or fighting multiple v2 Jinchuriki while playing around.
Fighting Base Bee and KCM who were just talking isnt enough to label him faster than Kakashi who directly outsped Naruto twice to save him.
Round 1: War-Arc Kakashi has a lot more Stamina. So him
Round 2: Kakashi has too much Justus at his disposal
Itachi both rounds
Since this isn’t stats equal riding with Itachi. To put it in simple terms, Non sick Itachi kept up with a non serious KCM Naruto h2h, who’s still above SM Naruto, who’s still above War Kakashi. Sick Itachi vs War Kakashi would be closer.
Round 2 is just a stomp in Itachi’s favor.
War Arc Kakashi and non-sick Itachi
Genjutsu and Sharingan hax like Amaterasu , Susanoo etc are strictly forbidden.
Round 1: Taijutsu only .
Round 2 : Taijutsu and Ninjutsu only .
LMAO trying so hard to nerf Itachi, yet Itachi still win.
Kakashi even with Sharingan failed to read Itachi's hand movement.
Kakashi was reacting to KCM1 Naruto and even Obito who scales faster than KCM1 Naruto. Itachi stands no chance in CQC.
Ninjutsu battle goes to Itachi. Healthy Itachi should have way better chakra because of being Uchiha and so can use more jutsus and clones than Kakashi, even in war arc.
Btw, if you don't restrict anything, War arc Kakashi beats Itachi 7/10, mid diff using Kamui.
Itachi. He's far superior to Kakashi in everything except stamina and Jutsu count. Itachi has less jutsu but the Jutsu he has are far more potent than Kakashi's. Exploding Clone, Grand Fireball, Phoenix Flower, and his Shuriken Jutsu are all probably above what Kakashi can handle.
@great_black_star: Actually , Itachi was a super prodigy , so I wanted to see how he skilled he was without sharingan , and if he could match Kakashi without its abilities .
Itachi wins.
@great_black_star: Actually , Itachi was a super prodigy , so I wanted to see how he skilled he was without sharingan , and if he could match Kakashi without its abilities .
Itachi's hand movement doesn't require sharingan. If Kakashi cannot comprehend that even with Sharingan, imagine what he can do without it. Itachi is just too fast for him.
@great_black_star: When did this happen? Can't remember.
@great_black_star: When did this happen? Can't remember.
first time they met in season 1
@great_black_star: Well that was a long time ago . Kakashi improved massively after that time.
@great_black_star: When did this happen? Can't remember.
first time they met in season 1
LMFAO bruh...That was out of shape Kakashi, War Arc Kakashi would damn near solo the Leaf in part 1 Naruto.
Itachi isn't beating Kakashi in hand to hand combat you need to get that out of your head. The Kakashi that Itachi beat is not the same Kakashi from the War....he is massively more powerful than he was back when he was getting cucked by Itachi.
Itachi both rounds
Where was it stated that Kakashi was "out of shape" in part 1? Was he on vacation from doing missions/training? Also, just because someone gets newer and better feats that doesn't necessarily mean they are amped. That's like saying Iron Man's model 1 armor was "amped" or "improved" because it received newer and better feats compared to the fight in the cave against fodder.
Where was it stated that Kakashi was "out of shape" in part 1? Was he on vacation from doing missions/training? Also, just because someone gets newer and better feats that doesn't necessarily mean they are amped. That's like saying Iron Man's model 1 armor was "amped" or "improved" because it received newer and better feats compared to the fight in the cave against fodder.
To be fair it is possible Kakashi got stronger in the time skip. All though not sure by how much because didn't he have a rematch with edo Zabuza?
Itachi has better feats either way.
@noone1996: I think they mean when Kakashi fought Zabuza and used his Sharingan for the first time in years. Just that fight alone put Kakashi out of commission for a few days. Then the same thing happened when he used Kamui in the Kazekage retrieval arc. He was completely bedridden in the Tenchi bridge arc.
@artoriasabysswalker: That's a fair point, but Kakashi was abusing his sharingan plenty by the time he fought Itachi. Plus Kamui is an entirely separate jutsu and irrelevant per this specific match up.
@jashro44: That's actually a really good point that I overlooked. If Kakashi miraculously transformed his ninjutsu/taijutsu since part 1 then why didn't he treat edo Zabuza and Haku like absolute fodder? I mean those characters were literally given a hard time by early part 1 Naruto and Sasuke. Even at the very end, Haku still manages to jump in front of Kakashi to save Zabuza the same as last time in part 1.
Where was it stated that Kakashi was "out of shape" in part 1?
@the_wspanialy: Interesting. Do they ever go into why he let himself get so out of shape?
@noone1996: I would assume he went from an Anbu (taking on critical missions which he would need to stay in top shape) to just being a sensei. Kakashi failed countless ninja squads over the years all while reading Jiraiya's books. I think he just got lazy by being a sensei/teacher. Problem is he never passed any of his students so therefore he never went on any missions.
@artoriasabysswalker: That actually makes a lot of sense.
Kakashi wins both rounds, especially the first one. His taijutsu always impressed me more than Itachi's. With ninjutsu allowed it's a bit closer but I'd still back Kakashi.
Kakashi wins round 1. Taijutsu only. I've seen better Taijutsu feats with Kakashi.
Itachi wins round 2. Taijutsu and Ninjutsu. (Amaterasu and Susanoo, GG No Re)
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