Itachi vs Deku

Rules

• Characters use all their powers and abilities.
• Healthy Itachi.
• Characters don't know each other.

Who wis win?

Itachi is faster, uses tsukuyom in character to start fights, and should be strong enough to swap hands with Deku considering even Edo Itachi (who is somewhat weaker than prime) was on level with KCM Naruto. Other than stamina, I don’t see any advantages for Deku.

@killmonger101: He isn’t faster than Deku by direct feats, Just by scaling and suggestions.

Genjutsu won’t work on Deku as the OFA users can wake/break him out of it and he already has good resistance to mind fuckery.

The Naruto Itachi was swapping hands with is weaker than the Naruto Deku scales to. He scales to cloaked Naruto.

@poedameronsbutt: He is faster by direct feats. MHA is a toddler speed verse. This deku wank is out of hand

Itachi shit stomps. Deku can't even survive his opener.

Itachi solos the verse

@poedameronsbutt: Deku scales to around Mach 100 while the weakest version of Itachi has blocked lightning.

This is actually a good point about the OFA users. I actually forgot about that completely. You’re right.

I’m going to need some veeeery good scaling to put Deku anywhere on that level

@wabubub: Deku wank is outta hand? You are speaking in a thread with Itachi uchiha in it and purposely downplaying a verse that’s already downplayed cause of the fandom? Yet the non-existent Deku wank is the problem. lol.

@killmonger101: Deku is FTL if not FTL+.

The radio waves feats for the verse, Dodging Nines lightning enfused lasers, Deku and the crew consistently dodging lasers, Pre war arc 2 Shigaraki catching light beams, Even if you wanted to lowball and say Deku is only MHS+ that’s still more than enough to fight Itachi with all the quirks and skills he has.

I do agree Itachi is faster than Deku anyway you put it, But Deku’s BEEN FTL for a while and speed doesn’t always determine a fight.

Bro what

Depends on how itachi starts the fight. He goes for tsyukonomi he wins. Anything else deku past him

Healthy itachi can be scaled to edo itachi, As edo itachi was matching KCM nardo in speed, this version of nardo are at the same ballpark of speed to current deku, so Itachi reacting to deku blitzing is not an issue.

Itachi Susanoo swings and seals deku to jar.

Itachi one shots

this is so unfair itachi blinks and poof! no more deku.

I don't know anything about faster than light deku yet, although most people seems to think he is at that speed and death battle just gave them more confidence in deku being at that level.

While i do admit to deku being mhs+ with gear shift which obviously have a time limit that would/will likely ignored in the latter chapter of the manga, deku does have a good advantage here which is his analystic prediction and danger sense which would be more than enough for him to keep up with itachi and also make it difficult for itachi to actually land a hit on deku.

Any illusion technique in this battle can be considered void since it won't work on deku since one for all would just snap him out of it, and if deku should catch itachi with his black whip and hit him with gear shift then the W is already in deku favour.

Umm Itachi hax stomps the verse ?

@leon46123: Itachi solos the verse unironically. No speed feat ive seen from MHA can even match what half blind and dyeing itachi could do with reacting to lightning.

@poedameronsbutt: By the time they realize hes in a genjutsu it would be too late. His illusions lasts for fractions of seconds by then which it would be too late. Novel and kakashi fight as an example easily.

Itachi shit stomps and it aint even close.

@edgelord91: Its highly in character for him to start off with genjutsu, how would deku beat even him even if he didint though?

@itachisolosnodiff: paste him with higher physicals. And I fled out said genjutsu one shots

@edgelord91: what physicals are higher? Maybe strength but thats about it from what ive seen.

@itachisolosnodiff: that's what I meant

I feel like this thread perfect encapsulates my issues with modern Comic Vine. Some characters are just considered more powerful, and a lot of users refuse to acknowledge that verses that used to be much weaker are now solid contenders. Team Deku are the only people posting actual feats in this thread. Just because Itachi used to solo doesn’t mean he does now

OT: Deku

@italian007: I havent seen any deku feats to show hes anywhere close itachi level lmao.

meanwhile im spamming itachi on his deathbed is a lightning timer and no mha feat ive seen comes close to that.

Funny you say all itachi fans do is talk yet you dont show feats yourself. Im waiting for any feats to prove deku wins.

@monviez3: KCM Naruto and Deku are not in the same ball park.

@italian007: I'll debate you on this.

@itachisolosnodiff: Light speed feats have already been posted in this thread

@itachisolosnodiff: And I didn’t even say anything about Itachi fans. It’s almost as if you haven’t read anything in this thread at all

@wk_decaff: Just warning you, it’s been awhile since I’ve read MHA, so I won’t be doing the best job. But I’m game

@italian007: there have literally been no feats posted. Only statements without any evidence to back it up.

@itachisolosnodiff: It’s referring to a specific example. No Itachi feats of that level are here. At all

@italian007: Ok, let's start with the basics what speed/power feats does Deku have suggesting he can beat Itachi and what is the overall win condition?

Itachi solos the verse no diff

@italian007: Itachi trading hands with kcm naruto as an edo isnt to that level? are you also aware that edos stats are weaker too?

Edo kinda gives Itachi better stats

@cloverb: Overall edo reduces one stats from their prime. Itachi is a special case cause he was sick but theyre using alive healthy itachi so he should upscale from all speed feats weve seen.

I guess Naruto fans CANT READ, Deku resists the genjutsus since he has shown resistance to them. Alive Itachi is not EQUAL to Edo since Edos have low godly regeneration with Infinite reserves of chakra. Using his Sharingan for a split second made him nearly lose his Eye sight and seeing how he will spam it here but Deku will resist it.

Deku also has Precog with Danger Sense so he’s not gonna be playing around but will directly finish the job. He’s literally more skilled in every way lol.

Can we talk some common sense instead since obviously we don't understand super powers and and super powered ninjas.

Now first off let's not act like Itachi isn't one of the most deadliest ninjas in the Naruto verse and could honestly reach a kill on deku without ANY jutsu via assassination. That's my issue with the thread. Deku supporters are trying to bridge gaps without considering what would actually happen in terms of combat in a direct combat debate. Great deku has "danger senses" but even if they were spiderman level I don't see how deku could detect someone who wasn't detected by ninja who are in fact chakra sensitive... And even if deku could detect itachi, he can't fight 3 of them with in some way losing an eye or limb just being realistic. If deku were to somehow kill Itachi it wouldn't even be via punch considering Itachi has dodged lightning. Deku could be fast but I don't see beating someone of this caliber who can clone themselves and has a multi tude of jutsu at his disposal.

Itachi neg-diffs the verse, lock this spite.

@dontrundontslip:

Great deku has "danger senses" but even if they were spiderman level I don't see how deku could detect someone who wasn't detected by ninja who are in fact chakra sensitive

Some characters are talented at hiding and repressing their chakra, making them harder to notice or sense for other chakra users. While danger sense will notify Deku about impending danger, and seemingly provide information about what and where it takes place. However, it seems possible to bypass danger sense by either hiding intent or being crazy enough where the intentions don't match the actions.

he can't fight 3 of them with in some way losing an eye or limb just being realistic.

This is true, and likely effective. Clones in Naruto are overpowered. This tends to be the reason why I think Naruto characters (even before the endgame) tend to beat other verses.

If deku were to somehow kill Itachi it wouldn't even be via punch considering Itachi has dodged lightning.

Itachi never dodged lightning. He formed his Susanoo in response to a highly telegraphed attack from the sky. I would apply the same rules to anything else.

@belando: maybe I have gotten someone confused with Itachi. I have to dig.

Deku whoops itachi ass mid difficulties

@savage_emperor1:

CAV when?.

This is a topic not worth addressing tbh.

@itachisolosnodiff: If someone isn’t a Naruto fan, then they have no idea what that means

@wk_decaff: Right off the bat, light speed feats for Deku are already posted in this thread. Second off, Naruto characters have always had terrible physical stats. Go back and re-read everything. You’ll be surprised

@italian007: I was expecting a legit argument.

@wk_decaff: That’s not very polite. I didn’t feel like opening with much, because you haven’t either. I’m fine if you wanna go that path, but just let me know

@italian007: Well I was going to match your post with feats from Itachi but all you did was suggest Deku was LS when he's not. And it's not like Itachi doesn't also have that level scaling. As for AP you just said "Naruto isn't great" which isn't honest. And didn't post anything for me to match.

@wk_decaff: I didn’t even mention AP, but ok. I was referring to physical stats, which the verse sorely lacks in. And light speed MHA characters isn’t a wild idea (Deku was fighting Shigaraki and dodging radio waves, Shigaraki reacting to light beams, Deku reacting to lightning, etc.)