Itachi Uchiha VS Tobi Orange Mask

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• Itachi is not sick and is not blind
• No Mangekyou Sharingan (they can use only sharingan), for instance, no Susanoo, No Amaterasu, No Tsukuyomi, and No Kamui.
• Both of them know each other
• Both of them are in character
• No preparation
• They start 10 meters apart

Location: Valley Of The End

Itachi wins handily.

Can go both ways imo

Either way

Obtio mid diff, he has Hashirama cells healing, greater physical strength, faster speed, more chakra reserves stamina, and wood style.

Obito, he's too fast for Itachi and Obito knows all the tricks to the Uchiha Dojutsu plus he has his own.

Obito has no answers for Tsukuyomi. But since mangekyo is restricted Itachi still wins easily. Much more skill in combat,

Itachi stomps 10/10. Even Zetsu said that he was "completely invincible" while alive. This statement insinuates that Itachi was currently the strongest from Zetsu's viewpoint, retroactively putting him above orange mask Tobi.

@supermanforever: Speed/warping counters tsukuyomi which is already massively overplayed.

Obito does not have the speed of Itachi for once secondly kamui does not counter tsukuyomi edither. Secondly name a single reason how Obito counter tsukuyomi?

The only advantage Obito has here is hashiramas cells for healing purposes thats it.

Just purely scaling.

@supermanforever:

Obito is 100% faster he has feats of casually reacting to Onoki's Partical jutsu after he used it and Raikage blitzing at point blank range while babysitting Sasuke. These are his casual feats too any Obito above "Tobi" and it's not a contest it's a stomp.

Itachi won't have time to use Tsukuyomi and yes Kamui can counter it the moment the MS comes out Obito can use Kamui on his eyes and Tsu is useless he can then warp away before any follow up.

Lastly Sasuke broke out of it and he was massively weaker than Obito and before you say Itachi let him win (I agree he did) it's also stated that Itachi had to push Sasuke as hard as he could.

@supermanforever: I also forgot to mention that as a kid Obito's warping was stated to be superior to Minato's FTG Itachi has no way to counter Kamui or keep up with it.

@quincy-q:

Obito is 100% faster he has feats of casually reacting to Onoki's Partical jutsu after he used it and Raikage blitzing at point blank range while babysitting Sasuke. These are his casual feats too any Obito above "Tobi" and it's not a contest it's a stomp.¨'

Thats his kamui ability, he does not need to activate kamui on reaction or he would have been pulverised by minato imediately.

He didnt use it to react to raikage. In fact he does not even need to react.

Those are not speed feats, those are his mangekyo abilities.

Itachi won't have time to use Tsukuyomi

Thats a legitimate aspull. Its not like Obito is as fast as rikudou Madara lol.

and yes Kamui can counter it the moment the MS comes out Obito can use Kamui on his eyes and Tsu is useless he can then warp away before any follow up.

When did he kamui someones eyes? show me a scan or atleast kamui someones bodyparts.

Also tsuyomi needs an eyeglance to activate. So no once he sees the eye he is done for.

Lastly Sasuke broke out of it

When did sasuke break tsukuyomi? Also even if that was true, its a feat for Sasuke not Obito.

and he was massively weaker than Obito

Weaker does not mean he was less resistant to genjutsu than Obito was. This are bunch of assumptions.

and before you say Itachi let him win (I agree he did)

Fact is he did.

it's also stated that Itachi had to push Sasuke as hard as he could.

He didnt push Sasuke as hard as he could. He had to pretend the whole fight to make Sasuke lose his abilities and get cornered and be forced to use Orochimarus powers to then remove curse mark.

That does not prove anything to suggest he countered tsukuyomi, specially when Obito clearly said that Sasuke could not see trough a single one of the illusions Itachi created.

Itachi stomps unless its rinnegan obito.

I also forgot to mention that as a kid Obito's warping was stated to be superior to Minato's FTG Itachi has no way to counter Kamui or keep up with it.

Who said that? If you are refering to Kakashis statment, then he was talking about the trasportation jutsu not speed. Minato clearly showed who was faster in their fight.

@supermanforever:

No those are speed feats that's like saying Itachi didn't react to Susanoo. Besides he warped into Onoki's attack and warped out while it was detonating that's an incredible speed feat.

He doesn't need to be as fast as Juudara are you suggesting Itachi is? If you're not then why bring him up? Fact is Obito>Itachi in speed.

Not Kamui Itachi's eyes out he can use Kamui on himself entering the Kamui realm meaning Itachi can't genjutsu him he can then blitz with a warp because Itachi won't be able to keep up.

Are you seriously asking when Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi? During their fight Itachi used it and Sasuke broke out. I don't know how else to post that.

Sasuke was weaker point blank he had weaker eyes too. And Obito has one of the best genjutsu feats in the series he's the only person to genjutsu a perfect host even Itachi failed at that.

It was stated after the fight with Itachi that Itachi did in fact push Sasuke as hard as he could so that he could kill Oro.

When Obito told Sasuke he didn't see through anything he wasn't talking about Genjutsu he was talking about Itachi's character. (I admit that's my view on the situation but that doesn't change the fact that he broke Tsukuyomi Itachi said he did.)

Kakakashi didn't say anything Minato did. During Obito's fight with Minato, Minato stated the Kamui was better than his FTG.

@supermanforever: but that's besides the point it's no MS so Obito should easily when.

He has high Regen, Wood style, and his strength is too high.

Obito saves Sasuke from Danzo's Ura Shiso Fuinjutsu. Obito's speed is much higher than Itachi's

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Itachi fans not stop headcanon wank!

Tsukuyomi Itachi has no feats against an MS sharingan level. Kakashi 3 tomoes at the beginning of the manga was able to offer some resistance against Itachi Tsukuyomi.

Orochimaru was about to leave the Magen: Kasegui in Itachi's Jutsu with Genjutsu: Kai

Databook claim that Kurenai is at the same genjutsu skill level that Itachi Uchiha won by appealing to skill: Sharingan / illusion inversion (Magen: Kyo Tenchi-ten)

Genjutsus Itachi is overrated!

Obito wins

Itachi.

Itachi

Healthy Itachi handily

Obito after a tough fight.

Obito mid diff. Much faster, skilled genjutsu user who has MS so there's no logical reason he can't break Tsukuyomi, countered Amaterasu already while not even on guard and can walk through Susanoo.

Itachi.

Obito.

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@godgate said:

Itachi stomps 10/10. Even Zetsu said that he was "completely invincible" while alive. This statement insinuates that Itachi was currently the strongest from Zetsu's viewpoint, retroactively putting him above orange mask Tobi.

One hyberbolic statements doesn't mean anything really

Obito.

Itachi wins

"itachi has no answer to tsukuyomi" except he's literally superior to itachi in terms of genjutsu, and anybody with a MS can break out of tsukuyomi?

@hr15922: Itachi can fight Naruto and Bee single handed.

Obito can do the same, but heavely relying on Kamui.

H2H Itachi has better feats.

@bigbattysomali: ???

No, he isn't, and no they can't.

yes he is.

and yes they can.

Itachi fought a fatigued naruto, and fighting bee isn't that impressive.

Obito has this in the bag.

Obito should defeat Itachi in a battle without any Mangekyo Sharingan abilities.

Itachi's fight against KCM Naruto is taken out of context a little tbf. Naruto knew Itachi was his only way to Sasuke & his psyche and was trying more so to defend himself and figure out what the hell was going on rather than obliterate Itachi outright.

Obito negs.

@bigbattysomali: He is not. Kakashi snaped out of Obito's genjutsu.

Obito himself stated Itachi to be a threat to him.

Danzo was confident he could take Obito out with his Sharingan, yet he feared Itachi and praised his genjutsu.

About the Tsukuyomi, what is said is that a Uchiha with the same blood as him could break out of it.

@bigbattysomali: Bold of you to call Bee weak.

I just imagine what it would make of Sasuke, who was literally spanked by him.

The same Sasuke who fought on equal grounds against the Raikage, killed Danzo and after all that was able to put Kakashi against the wall.

Kakashi that have already beated Obito, by the way. They should be all weaklings.

No, he doesn't. Stop using random terms for whoever wins.

Nothing you just said is relevant.

Itachi failed to control a jinchuuriki, obito didn't.

Now try prove itachi is stronger than obito in genjutsu.

He lost to kisame.

@bigbattysomali:

Obito negs anyways. Cry.

Ah yes, great argument. "obito negs anyways" despite getting bodied by minato and having literally no feats to suggest he could neg itachi.

@noone1996: Tobi LMFAO STOMPS any version of itachi.

@bigbattysomali: Minato FTG >>>>>>>>>>> anything itachi can do to tag tobi. Itachi has nothing other than genjutsu and its been proven sasuke can break the genjutsu. Tobi with hashirama cells would prob put itachi in a genjutsu lol.