Itachi and Shisui vs The Last Naruto

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#1 Posted by floydfromhell97 (1131 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  • Team is Bloodlusted
  • All Feats are Allowed
  • Both can spam Genjutsu what ever they want(Side side effects are retricted)
  • Perfect Teamwork
  • Random Encounter-No Knowledge
  • Wins by Death or K.O.

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#2 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4391 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stomps in base.

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#3 Edited by Asshat_Zeppeli (296 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto kills them both Naruto has fought characters like Six paths Madara, Obito and Six paths Sasuke, Genjutsu has never been a problem as perfect Jinchuriki's seem to be immune. Naruto can also fight with his eye's closed using his senses.

Both Itachi and Shisui's speed should be comparable to KCM 1 Naruto give him Kcm2 sage mode and he blitzes and bijju bombs them into oblivion.

Post six paths boost Naruto in BASE has speed comparable to Six paths Sasuke and even Fused Momoshiki he blitzes even worse.

Totsuka will never land and the Yata mirror only protects Itachi from the front, not that Itachi has the speed to even react to Naruto.

He smashes their Susanoo apart faster than Kaguya did Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo. Naruto was able to trade blows with her for quite some time.

Make it the Last where his power was doubled and this is a STOMP No one wants to hear the Moon slicing argument again. Did I mention 5000 clones ?

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#4 Posted by Yamiyodare (2479 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch in favor of Naruto. Naruto after the war is already much stronger. And he can go into Six Paths more. He also has a much better control over Kurama, among others ..

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#5 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is everyone here ignoring Tsukuyomi/Koto when in any thread that doesn't have Naruto in it they'll glad spam it?

OT: Genjutsu gg

(Assuming Naruto is immune to Koto or Tsukuyomi is illogical)

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#6 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil said:

Why is everyone here ignoring Tsukuyomi/Koto when in any thread that doesn't have Naruto in it they'll glad spam it?

OT: Genjutsu gg

(Assuming Naruto is immune to Koto or Tsukuyomi is illogical)

This is accurate, if this wasn’t a top tier Naruto character the first thing people would say would be Genjutsu gg.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5d5d8c614fa9a (4113 posts) - - Show Bio

They both get one.......

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#8 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage:

Why is everyone here ignoring Tsukuyomi/Koto when in any thread that doesn't have Naruto in it they'll glad spam it?

OT: Genjutsu gg

(Assuming Naruto is immune to Koto or Tsukuyomi is illogical)

Thoughts?

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#9 Posted by RikuYamaha (2039 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't perfect jins immune to Genjutsu?

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#10 Posted by deactivated-5d5d8c614fa9a (4113 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: They're too slow and can't react fast enough to even be a bother to him.

For koto, it can only be used on one person and it would probably hit a clone, same with Tsukuyomi.

This is bloodlust so.......rasenshuriken gg.

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#11 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil: They're too slow and can't react fast enough to even be a bother to him.

For koto, it can only be used on one person and it would probably hit a clone, same with Tsukuyomi.

This is bloodlust so.......rasenshuriken gg.

The Team is bloodlust, not Naruto. And Naruto in character won't blitz anyone, and the Sharingan can tell the difference between clones.

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#12 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@rikuyamaha said:

isn't perfect jins immune to Genjutsu?

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Only fodder Genjutsu, Killer Bee says you can use your Tailed beast to disturb your chakra and break you out of the Genjutsu, this wouldn't work on Koto or Tsukuyomi. And we know Naruto would have been affected by Infinite Tsukuyomi if Sasuke didn't shield him.

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#13 Posted by ourmanuel (13905 posts) - - Show Bio

Either koto gg

Or speedblitz gg

I’ll say naruto wins since he’s faster

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#14 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: Why would Naruto blitz when this is in character?

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#15 Posted by ManimalMan (1048 posts) - - Show Bio

@rikuyamaha: perfect jins can have their bijuu break them out of standard genjutsu. It shouldn't work against high level genjutsu like tsukuyomi or koto. Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki, yet obito controlled him for years with his genjutsu.

Naruto likely can't counter them.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5d5d8c614fa9a (4113 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil: They're too slow and can't react fast enough to even be a bother to him.

For koto, it can only be used on one person and it would probably hit a clone, same with Tsukuyomi.

This is bloodlust so.......rasenshuriken gg.

The Team is bloodlust, not Naruto. And Naruto in character won't blitz anyone, and the Sharingan can tell the difference between clones.

Well, naruto's go to move is shadow clone then rasengan sooo gg.

And no sharingan can't tell the difference between clones and real naruto.lol

Even the byakugan that sees chakra can't. Where did you get sharingan can see between clones and real naruto?lmao

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#17 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil said:

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil: They're too slow and can't react fast enough to even be a bother to him.

For koto, it can only be used on one person and it would probably hit a clone, same with Tsukuyomi.

This is bloodlust so.......rasenshuriken gg.

The Team is bloodlust, not Naruto. And Naruto in character won't blitz anyone, and the Sharingan can tell the difference between clones.

Well, naruto's go to move is shadow clone then rasengan sooo gg.

All it takes is a glance from Shisui or Itachi, Naruto isn't blitzing so he instantly get's genjutsu'd.

And no sharingan can't tell the difference between clones and real naruto.lol

Sasuke says this to Naruto during their fight in the VoTE....

Even the byakugan that sees chakra can't. Where did you get sharingan can see between clones and real naruto?lmao

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#18 Edited by jt_gh (1162 posts) - - Show Bio

Team is bloodlusted so Koto and Yata/Totsuka sussano take this. Also enough of this nonsensical 'Naruto speedblitz' crap, Itachi has kept up with KC Naruto easily and Shisui's speed is noted as one of his defining characteristics.

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#19 Edited by ourmanuel (13905 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: yes, I just saw that team is bloodlusted.

So I guess it’s kotoamatsukami then.

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Nothing can tell the difference between Clone and Original.

Naruto has danger sense he'll feel the Genjutsu coming.

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#21 Posted by reaverlation (25964 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stomps badly

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#22 Edited by Loveeveryone2 (370 posts) - - Show Bio

Narurto blitz them before they can react. He cut off Kaguya arm, so by scaling he should be way faster. They only will see a blur of light before they activate genjutsu then die.

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#23 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

The team wins.

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#24 Posted by silentNightz (1215 posts) - - Show Bio

Itachi and Shisui is a formidable pair, Naruto might lose. Naruto isn’t some invincible god, he still isn’t immune to kunai. He’s gonna have to get hella serious to win, and they could still trap him. Two Susanoo at once? Things are gonna get hot out there.

Naruto 5.5/10

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#25 Posted by Blizzard93 (117 posts) - - Show Bio

@jt_gh: I can't even lol at that crap. Comparing the last naruto's speed with kcm 1 naruto who was holding back........

OT: Naruto stomps......

and again lol at someone claiming that kunai can take care of naruto.

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#26 Edited by jt_gh (1162 posts) - - Show Bio

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@jt_gh: I can't even lol at that crap. Comparing the last naruto's speed with kcm 1 naruto who was holding back........

OT: Naruto stomps......

But I did, and i'm not interested in what you think. So there's that.

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#27 Posted by UltimateSage (840 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto blitzes

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#28 Edited by Mee09 (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto only wins 6 or 7 times out of ten. This duo would destroy Alive Madara under these conditions though.

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#29 Posted by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto easily stop wanking these fodder.

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#30 Edited by Mee09 (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamantine: It's definitely not easily. I don't know if Shisui had one in the games. But Itachi has a Perfect Sussano with Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade. Backed by the best Genjutsu in the entire series. They have all feats here and are bloodlusted. As great as Naruto is he can't beat bloodlusted characters of this caliber and win 100% of the time. It's impossible. Maybe if he was out of character you could argue a blitz but I'm pretty sure composite Itachi is on Sasuke's level reaction wise and is just a bit below him powerwise due to not having the Rinnegan.

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#31 Posted by Zuriel-el (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

naruto stomps. i can't believe people made arguments for team uchiha.

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#32 Posted by cKarma (558 posts) - - Show Bio

They genjutsu him and Kurama

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#33 Posted by Earendill (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto one shots in base.

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#34 Posted by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: Naruto on base was reacting to a beam and matching it that crossed over 2k miles in 1-2 seconds.

He would literally be able to statue these two, mix that in with precog and the fact that Naruto in the war arc was able to avoid eye contact already. This is a no brainier.

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#35 Posted by TheEmperor95 (2213 posts) - - Show Bio

It is kinda funny how people say genjutsu suddenly wouldn't work because of a massive speed advantage or a tailed beast lol

OT: naruto should win in a mismatch

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#36 Posted by DevoidRuby (814 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto casually slaps in Base.

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#37 Posted by eri123 (7426 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto

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#38 Edited by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95: two known counters to the Shairgan working against it, who would have thought?

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#39 Posted by Sup3rn0va (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

"Random Encounter" "No knowledge" "Team blood lusted"

How anyone comes to the conclusion that being a Jinchuriki makes you immune to two of the strongest Genjutsu in the verse is beyond me, I mean even Yagura (A perfect Jinchuriki) was used as a puppet by Obito and that was from some random unnamed Genjutsu.

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#40 Posted by Adi_Frost (1056 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto would definitely lose if he gets caught in either of their genjutsus. So, no, Naruto can infact get genjutsu'd.

Also, No. Shadow clones can't be distinguished from the original. Keeping track of the real one vs actually distinguishing between the 2 based on their properties is completely different. As someone already stated, not even byakugan can distinguish between them and sasuke's sharingan in VOTE1 is definitely inferior to a byakugan in sheer insight.

As for the fight itself, the only argument that needs to be made is either Naruto blitzes in the beginning or not. If Naruto blitzes, then the match is over before anything even happens. If he doesn't blitz but tries to job, he would get genjutsu'd.
But Naruto would win, because shadow clone, rasengan, fast initial attack, blitz is a go to for Naruto in a random encounter. He blitzed pain at the beginning of their fight, went for a blitz against Sasuke in VOTE1, went for a blitz against sasukin VOTE2, went for a blitz against the third raikage, went for a blitz against the second tsuchikage, went for a blitz against reanimated madara, etc. Naruto would destroy them both.

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#41 Posted by BlueLantern1996 (157 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto in a stomp cus after KCM all Genjutsu is fodder to him unless it’s Madara / Kaguya’s IT.

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#42 Posted by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@sup3rn0va: Yagura isn't a perfect Jin, after more research I've discovered they've never stated that she was. Only that she could control the Beast like Madara, Hashirama and Bee. Madara and Hashirama aren't perfect Jins. This means that there's no prove that Yagura and the 3 tails has a good relationship in which they would work perfectly.

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#43 Posted by TheEmperor95 (2213 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamantine: idk look at a similar match with someone who isn't named naruto and then itachi is able to pull off his genjutsu and no other inner spirits or outside help can get the person out

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#44 Edited by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95: Bee broke out easily and the strongest person Itachi actually fought with his own power was Hebi Sasuke.

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#45 Posted by RikuYamaha (2039 posts) - - Show Bio

i actually see how more of a stomp in naruto favor this is.

tsuk wont work on naruto,not only cause hes a perfect jin,but if base sharigan sasuke can break it,so can a perfect jin.

koto is more dangerous but shisui would be blitzed before he can use it.

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#46 Edited by Sup3rn0va (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

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i actually see how more of a stomp in naruto favor this is.

tsuk wont work on naruto,not only cause hes a perfect jin,but if base sharigan sasuke can break it,so can a perfect jin.

Really faulty logic, the Databook pretty much states that only a relative of Itachi's with the Sharingan could break out of Tsukuyomi. It's also entirely possible that Itachi let him break out since he had no intention of defeating Sasuke.

koto is more dangerous but shisui would be blitzed before he can use it.

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#47 Edited by Sup3rn0va (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamantine said:

@sup3rn0va: Yagura isn't a perfect Jin

He kinda is, it was stated he has full control over his Tailed Beast. I can't see any argument being made that Isobu wouldn't help Yagura.

, after more research I've discovered they've never stated that she was.

Yagura's a dude

Only that she could control the Beast like Madara, Hashirama and Bee.

Bee is a perfect Jin

Madara and Hashirama aren't perfect Jins.

Madara and Hashirama control the Bijuu through force and abilities, Genjutsu and Wood jutsu.

This means that there's no prove that Yagura and the 3 tails has a good relationship in which they would work perfectly.

There is as I proved above, you can't use Hashirama and Madara to say Yagura wasn't on good terms with Isobu.

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#48 Posted by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@sup3rn0va: You have to prove he had a good relationship with the Beast, the statment that says he can control the Beast has him lumped in with Hashirama and Madara which shows that it may not be talking about having a good relationship.

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#49 Edited by Sup3rn0va (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamantine said:

@sup3rn0va: You have to prove he had a good relationship with the Beast, the statment that says he can control the Beast has him lumped in with Hashirama and Madara which shows that it may not be talking about having a good relationship.

It also him lumped him in with Bee who has a good relationship with Gyuuki and is also a perfect Jin.

Again, Madara and Hashirama both control Bijuu with their immense power and abilities, Jinchuriki only ever do so with a good relationship.

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#50 Posted by adamantine (2985 posts) - - Show Bio

@sup3rn0va:

So prove that he was doing it via a good relationship, he could have been doing it like KCM Naruto which isn't a perfect relationship.