Isshiki vs Madara

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Who would win?

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#2  Edited By MCU-Defender333

Hasn't this basically been done before? Either way, you'll get the same responses: the usual Boruto w*nkers who think Isshiki >>> Jigen > Hokage Naruto > Star level (LOL) Base Momo > Kaguya, and the people who use actual reasoning and feats from the original source material.

Again, it's still too early. We need more feats from Isshiki, so far the only thing he's done that Jigen couldn't is his eye shrinking ability.

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Issike easily

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Isshiki would stomp Madara for 3 days straight till his body lifespan expires and be destroyed giving Madara the win

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#5  Edited By RDCDesmond

Dual Eyes JJ Madara limbos couldn’t one shot teen SPSM Naruto shadow clones as when clones are hit too hard they disperse into smoke

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Limbos = main user. So Dual Eyes JJ Madara May have more chakra, But He is speed wise and physically comparable to Naruto shadow clones, with Madara having slight edge in hand to hand.

Isshiki has consistently one shotted and blitzed Adult SPSM Naruto and his clones who are superior in power and speed to Teen SPSM Naruto and His clones.

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Isshiki should be faster and physically stronger than Dual Eyes JJ Madara

Isshiki should be able to restrict limbos with Truth Seeking Rods. But his only chance of winning against Madara is BFR or restricting main Madara with truth seeking rods since JJ Dual Eyes Madara is immortal via Post Divine Tree Absorption.

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#6  Edited By CyberBlades22

Madara due to better hax wins, Isshiki's only shot is BFR which can be avoided via limbo substitution, also IT is a one shot against anyone without rinnegan.

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Isshiki should be able to win due to shrinking ability and resistance from Infinite Tsukuyomi. Isshiki shrinks everything Madara created.

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#8  Edited By Pain1017

But I do have a question based on Isshiki's dimension. Does he have a dimension that can stop time?

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@pain1017: yeah that's an time frozen dimension, time doesn't flow in it

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Madara stomps Isshiki, Teen versions are in a different league than the Adults

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#11  Edited By citgo

A DISEASES CARRYING, BLOOD COUGHING, CANT EVEN USE CHAKRA Naruto can dodge multiple photons beams in BASE.

Isshiki blitzclaps Madara multiple times casually until his body dies out.

Or he BFR's Madara gg.

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Madara stomps TSB GG Limbo GG

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1. even if Tsb gets shrinked Madara still Claps

2. Isshiki cant see Tsb the Fodder boi wish he had power like Juubito,Hagoromo,Kaguya and Madara

3. Madara b*tchslaps Isshiki and then kills him

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@thegodmadara:

Madara is a lame boi who got fisted to death. He isn't even God tier anymore in his own verse smh.

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Again? This is the 7th thread about Isshiki vs Juudara.

And again...Isshiki is far stronger, faster and can instashrink everything Juudara throws at him besides Limbo Hengoku.

Etc. Etc. as always.

But Isshiki can't take down Juudara because Juudara is IMMORTAL. Not yet at least.

Restrict immortality, or wait till Isshiki shows new feats or fuses with his Juubi/Kawaki, and this will be different.

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Madara is a lame boi who got fisted to death. He isn't even God tier anymore in his own verse smh.

Bro what Madara was the second strongest in his verse and is still the second strongest. Isshiki gets one shot like he did against preFruit kaguya.

Isshiki gets erased just from feeling the Massive power of Madara, also 1 eyed Alive pre juubi Madara+sm>Adult Sasuke

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@thegodmadara: madara almost got raped by guy what are you smoking.

Kaguya, momshiki, Adult Naruto and Sasuke, Jigen and iishiki are all above madara. Madara can't compete, he got fisted by zetsu gg he gets clapped.

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Again? This is the 7th thread about Isshiki vs Juudara.

And again...Isshiki is far stronger, faster and can instashrink everything Juudara throws at him besides Limbo Hengoku.

Etc. Etc. as always.

But Isshiki can't take down Juudara because Juudara is IMMORTAL. Not yet at least.

Restrict immortality, or wait till Isshiki shows new feats or fuses with his Juubi/Kawaki, and this will be different.

-Because Madara is stronger

-No isshiki isnt even faster than a Bfr and kishimoto makes this clear

-No Madara has a arsenal of deadly stuff, Isshiki cant shrink things that are alive, LIMBO AND WOODSTYLE

- No Madara keeps his Immortality for this fight, also once isshiki does absorb juubi it still isnt going to put him on Juubito/Madara/Kaguya/Hagoromo level his juubi is still a baby and isnt stronger than Kaguyas. Also Isshiki is at 100% right now getting Kawakis body is only gonna give him back his lifeforce not MORE chakra

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@thegodmadara: madara almost got raped by guy what are you smoking.

Kaguya, momshiki, Adult Naruto and Sasuke, Jigen and iishiki are all above madara. Madara can't compete, he got fisted by zetsu gg he gets clapped.

1. Guy is a god tier who was close to Juubito and Madaras level

2.NO Momoshiki is not stronger than Madara if you search for my other arguments you will see

3. Adult Naruto and Sasuke arent even stronger than their teen versions so NO they arent stronger than madara, Jigen and isshiki arent stronger than Hagoromo or Hamura so how are they stronger than Madara

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@thegodmadara: Don't talk to me, time waster troll. You don't even care about Madara. You're here just to downplay every Boruto and every Naruto character, and create flame wars between Naruto and Boruto users.

Your game doesn't work with me.

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@thegodmadara: Don't talk to me, time waster troll. You don't even care about Madara. You're here just to downplay every Boruto and every Naruto character, and create flame wars between Naruto and Boruto users.

Your game doesn't work with me.

1. Not a troll you are

2. I do care aboit Madara I use all FACTS and scans to prove my point while you and your circlejerk of borutards use headcanon and noncanon Novels

3. Kaguya Is the strongest in the verse and Madara was second

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Madara ran Sasukes own sword through his heart, he was going to die.

Kabuto, a highly competent doctor and researcher on Hashiramas cells manually repaired all damage to Sasuke with those cells and advice from Tobirama.

Madara gained the Rinnegan as an old man, shorly before he was supposed to die due to advanced age. He crudely grafted Hashiramas flesh into his own wounds. He implied that the Rinnegan didn't awaken until many years later because being on the verge of death seemed to be a requirement.

Sasuke on the other hand had his heart expertly repaired and reformed while mixed with Senju DNA and he was almost dead.

Also Sasuke is either unable to deactivate his Rinnegan or he simply does not need to which suggest Sasukes connection to his own power is especially strong. He was even able to still bear a regular Rinnegan when his chakra reserves were exhausted.

While this question does bot concern him, its worth noting that the reason Hagoromo could appear to Naruto is because not only did he get given back Kurama on the verge of death, he also got given pieces of the other eight beasts.

Just like how Narutos chakra was subtly augmented by the presence of Kuramas chakra all his life, it was now being subjected to changes by all 9 simultaneously - this would add up to Six Paths Chakra. This was how Hagoromo could talk to him.

There's a misconception that Hagoromo giving Naruto and Sasuke power is what gave them their upgrades but that isn't so.

Naruto gaining the chakra of all tailed beast powered him up to Sage of Six Paths level.

Sasuke having his heart reconstructed with Senju DNA allowed him to awaken Rinnegan.

What Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke were two halves of his power in the form of a pre - prepared seal technique designed to return to Hagoromos control once the seals were placed. People need to realize that Adult Sasuke is a completely different person than the Sasuke who fought Madara.

This guy had half of Hagoromo’s power.

This was said consistently

Naruto openly admits to getting half of Hagoromo’s power and says the same about Sasuke.

He has six paths power too.

If you want to know where the onyx chidori went, it’s because he doesn’t have Hagoromo’s power anymore.

Same background when receiving the power,

Same background when losing the power.

On top of that, Hagoromo says this;

“This Jutsu requires a large amount of chakra, Which I don’t have right now since I’ve given it away”

Chakra is the combination of the Physical and Spiritual energy of a person. Physical and Spiritual energy directly relates to power.

Anyway, after Hagoromo gets the seals back, this is what happens

He’s able to perform the Jutsu he couldn’t use previously, meaning his power has returned.

When talking about the six paths power, the seals are immediately referenced.

Those seals are almost equivalent to a Juubi buff.

Just because they look insignificant doesn’t mean they are.

Comparing the people above to the people below is like comparing EMS Madara to Juubi Madara Pre-god tree.

And I’m not even joking.

Let me tell you the things to never consider when talking about Adult Sasuke and Naruto.

Don’t ever think about this attack,

Don’t ever think Sasuke’s Susano’o is this strong.

If Naruto still has access to Boil release, it would make him strong. But never this strong ever again.

Before the Hagoromo amp, Sasuke was getting toyed with by Blind Madara.

After the Hagoromo buff, he gets fast enough to be praised by the Juubi Jinchuuriki.

Sorry, but you think that kind of miracle just happens?

Adult Sasuke’s lightning cloak is a literal sloth compared to Hagoromo amped speed.

If Hokage Naruto still has these, The won’t even be close to as powerful as they were at this point.

He most likely can’t teleport people in front of him anymore.

I mean, How easy would it be to Kill Naruto at VoTe 2 if he could still use this.

It’s certainly easier than the tactic he chose.

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It’s actually consistent because he uses the same kind of tactic in Boruto, despite the former being far easier. It’s easier to explain it to you. Nothing done when Naruto and Sasuke had the six paths power of Yin and Yang, should be considered when talking about their adult forms. Why because Teen Naruto and Sasuke are far stronger than Adult Naruto and Sasuke.

OT: Madara claps any Boruto Godtier mid diff and its time for yall borutards to wake up

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#25  Edited By BlackWizzard17

@thegodmadara:

Your post is all irrelevant considering they would be stupid to spam massive amounts of chakara attacks against foes who absorb chakara. Madara is foddera bruh

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@thegodmadara:

Your post is all irrelevant considering they would be stupid to spam massive amounts of chakara attacks against foes who absorb chakara. Madara is foddera bruh

1. Noone can absorb woodstyle or shrink it

2. Isshiki cant see or sense Limbo

3.Madara isnt fodder he surpassed Hagoromo and Juubito was equal to hagoromo so explain how they are fodder

4. Adult Naruto and sasuke are weaker than Teen Naruto and Sasuke Read post above

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Isshiki can sense Limbo smh

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#28  Edited By Haxxxz

Teens - solar system level max

Adults - less than half power slapping around fused momoshike who's exponentially stronger than base momoshike who created a parallel universe/hyperspace

With only refutations being MuH NoN CaNoN, HyPeRbOlE, NoN ReLiAbLe which clearly shows the level of denial

Yeah teens stronger 💀💀💀😂🤣😹

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WTF I throw up just looking at these ridiculous post

1. Naruto and Sasuke are nowhere near Universal or solar sytem WTF and yall call me the wanker

2.Yea im convinced borutards are idiots it was confirmed by Kishimoto that Kaguya created parallel dimensions which are universal sized and that she can destroy them easily, nowhere is it stated that Momoshiki can destroy all his dimensions

3.Idiots love to not read and use their own headcanon without showing proof or scans Juubito was equal to HAGOROMO no one in Boruto rivals Hag

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@thegodmadara:

1.woodstyle is usless here

2. Limbos are fodder and madara will be beaten before they become useful.

3. How was jubito equal to Hagoromo thats cap. Madara was reaching power close to him but after getting 2nd rinnegan and absorbing the tree that doesn't make him stronger than 10 tails absorbed hagoromo. Madara was still weaker than kaguya who got beat.

4. Adult Naruto tanked a moon slice, adult narutos rasengan sent fused momoshiki to the afterlife,

naruto and sasuke got one shot by jigen out of their forms (susanoo and Karama avatar)

just jigen only is stronger and faster than madara, iishiki curve stomps

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@thegodmadara: Nope Adults are for destroying fused momoshike who's way beyond base momoshike who created an parallel universe cum hyperspace

It was said kaguya created time spaces, it's sizes were never mentioned lol which is why it's at max considered solar system level

Just in case you don't know in vs battles and power scaling community it's an established rule that Creation=/> destruction and applies to AP which is why that creation feat does apply to Base Momoshike's AP

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Madara squashes isshiki

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If Isshiki can pull out the God tree from Madara then he wins, otherwise Madara outlasts him.

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#34  Edited By MyGod000

Isshiki was killed almost by Pre-Fruit Kaguya. Madara destroys him pretty easily.

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Madara stomps.

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@mygod000 said:

Isshiki was killed almost by Pre-Fruit Kaguya. Madara destroys him pretty easily.

Years and years before we ever see him in action. Assuming they were all the same level then is silly.

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@wabubub said:
@mygod000 said:

Isshiki was killed almost by Pre-Fruit Kaguya. Madara destroys him pretty easily.

Years and years before we ever see him in action. Assuming they were all the same level then is silly.

That was still prime Isshiki who Pre-Fruit Kaguya Negged.

Kaguya and Isshiki back then was rivaling levels of each other. the story has shown with Hashirama Vs Madara you can't one shot someone if they were rivaling level to you.

Madara clearly wins this for being far superior to that Kaguya that defeated him.

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@haxxxz said:

@thegodmadara: Nope Adults are for destroying fused momoshike who's way beyond base momoshike who created an parallel universe cum hyperspace

It was said kaguya created time spaces, it's sizes were never mentioned lol which is why it's at max considered solar system level

Just in case you don't know in vs battles and power scaling community it's an established rule that Creation=/> destruction and applies to AP which is why that creation feat does apply to Base Momoshike's AP

Tell me do you speak japanese, It was confirmed her dimensions are UNIVERSAL

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@haxxxz said:

@thegodmadara: Nope Adults are for destroying fused momoshike who's way beyond base momoshike who created an parallel universe cum hyperspace

It was said kaguya created time spaces, it's sizes were never mentioned lol which is why it's at max considered solar system level

Just in case you don't know in vs battles and power scaling community it's an established rule that Creation=/> destruction and applies to AP which is why that creation feat does apply to Base Momoshike's AP

also No destruction is greater>Creation this has been established hundreds of times in multiple anime

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@thegodmadara:

1.woodstyle is usless here

2. Limbos are fodder and madara will be beaten before they become useful.

3. How was jubito equal to Hagoromo thats cap. Madara was reaching power close to him but after getting 2nd rinnegan and absorbing the tree that doesn't make him stronger than 10 tails absorbed hagoromo. Madara was still weaker than kaguya who got beat.

4. Adult Naruto tanked a moon slice, adult narutos rasengan sent fused momoshiki to the afterlife,

naruto and sasuke got one shot by jigen out of their forms (susanoo and Karama avatar)

just jigen only is stronger and faster than madara, iishiki curve stomps

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Come on SILLY can you read Naruto and Sasuke arent equal to Hags while Juubito is and Madara is far stronger than Juubito in all forms

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@thegodmadara: go and read the very basic rules and the definition of which takes more energy, it's mostly agreed upon that creation usually takes more energy than destruction

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@thegodmadara: nope the translation used is Sekai which means world which can mean either planet, society or universe, the official translation refers those as time space without any specific mention of its size so that's why it's usually considered as the etsb mainly destroying that planet they were upon to max solar system level because that dimension having a star in it

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@haxxxz said:

@thegodmadara: nope the translation used is Sekai which means world which can mean either planet, society or universe, the official translation refers those as time space without any specific mention of its size so that's why it's usually considered as the etsb mainly destroying that planet they were upon to max solar system level because that dimension having a star in it

The word Sekai is being used to describe her dimensions I know what it mean, and No Zetsu even stated that Kaguya was going to completely ERASE all of her dimensions and Remake newones, and no they werent at max solar sytem level show me one statement from Kishi that says kaguyas dimensions are Solar system level.

Also side note Since you think Momoshiki is Universe level that Makes Darui and the other kage Universal as well and Boruto must be Universal+++ and Sasukes sword must be Universal LMAO, you borutards crack me up

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Madara.

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#46  Edited By MattyBoi

@haxxxz said:

Teens - solar system level max

Adults - less than half power slapping around fused momoshike who's exponentially stronger than base momoshike who created a parallel universe/hyperspace

With only refutations being MuH NoN CaNoN, HyPeRbOlE, NoN ReLiAbLe which clearly shows the level of denial

Yeah teens stronger 💀💀💀😂🤣😹

Literally every anti Boruto debater, except you forgot the out of context lowball scans.

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#47  Edited By MattyBoi

I like how Naruto and Sasuke still used their SO6P power in the final valley, and even got stronger forms, yet somehow them as adults magically lost that power.

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Madara due to limbo

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@thegodmadara: Stfu kaguyas dimension is nowhere near universal she got like 3 moons and 6 stars where as universe have like trillion stars and moons and ur fag daddy madara gets a zetsu to the heart

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#50  Edited By Supermanforever

Madara can one shot with IT.

Plus limbo can slaughter him, he cant see or counter it.