Win by death
Start distance: 50 m
Naruto fans are just funny, in another thread they were bringing up how the kage that fought momo show that the otsutsuki aren't all that and naruto and sasuke were nerfed. In this thread they're arguing that a multicontinental character will stomp 5 people of which two are at his level with three people who have brains, hax and brute force.
Amazing.
Inb4 you lot say it's pis, the whole show is either full of pis or shit writing, you can take your pick. Either way you'd be admitting you're all wankers with no regard for the truth or you'd be accepting that you love shit writing ( isn't that what proves you're stans anyway? lol).
What the hell?
Aizen puts him into KS and Ichibei turns him into a vegetable, this guy doesn’t stand a chance against these five, Ichigo or Aizen alone gives him the Baryon Mode treatment.
Ichibei takes the black in his eyes and wrap it around his eyeballs negging his eye ability. They take turn beating the life out of him. I'm not sure if ppl understand how broken Ichibei really is. He controls black and it works on a conceptual lvl. He could remove him out of existence if he wanted too in this fight but it's not necessary.
@fea: how
@returntothevoid: Just shrink your zampakutous and defeat them with your simple physical superiority.
Inb4 you lot say it's pis, the whole show is either full of pis or shit writing, you can take your pick. Either way you'd be admitting you're all wankers with no regard for the truth or you'd be accepting that you love shit writing ( isn't that what proves you're stans anyway? lol).
It's not PIS. People refuse to admit that Naruto power levels were retconned in Boruto. No one is planet/moon level
@fea: Idk if zans can be simply shrunk bc of the whole soul things and then being part of the shinigami. Ishikki is not superior to any of them in physicals. Ishikki entire kit cucks energy attacka but that's about it. He doesn't scale to others bc his durability and AP/DC was amazing. He shrinks/absorbs chakra based attacks and uses stakes.
any of the War Potential can solo with low difficulty, even Urahara with Bankai negs poor Ishiki.
Aizen = obvious, he scales to the same tier as the Soul King -> Planet Level-Multi Planet level, when a mere hand of such being is enough to stabilized Multiple worlds from collapsing.
Ichigo = same as above
Ichibei = Massively stronger than Yamamoto with planetary AOE that even spans multiple timelines and has concept hax, ishiki would likely get slap to death by his palm and sent to another continent on the way.
Kenpachi = ishiki tries the same combat style he did against Naruto and he gets slap to death by Kenpachi
@returntothevoid: In my opinion, many characteristics are lacking for the zampakitous to be considered alive, at first something alive is born, reproduces and dies and not only "has a soul", in our world there is no soul and yet we are all living beings.
About physical superiority, for me at least the superiority of Isshiki is evident, who scales with characters like Madara, who in turn is undeniably physically stronger than any of the potential ones, a proof of this was him breaking Hashirama's Tori.
Mismatch, Five war potentials kill him.
@fea: If I'm not mistaken the Tori don't have any great durability feats. They are used to immobilize and break the weak will. If u have a strong will and can overcome the immobilization effect you will be okay. I don't see how this eclipse attack parry that vape a small mountain or one tapping a meteor and severely fragmenting it in a weaker form.
@returntothevoid: The tori withstood the blast of a bijuudama larger than the Juubi itself without suffering major damage, that bijuudama was significantly stronger than a normal bijuudama, which is already capable of disintegrating a large mountain.
any of the War Potential can solo with low difficulty, even Urahara with Bankai negs poor Ishiki.
Aizen = obvious, he scales to the same tier as the Soul King -> Planet Level-Multi Planet level, when a mere hand of such being is enough to stabilized Multiple worlds from collapsing.
Ichigo = same as above
Ichibei = Massively stronger than Yamamoto with planetary AOE that even spans multiple timelines and has concept hax, ishiki would likely get slap to death by his palm and sent to another continent on the way.
Kenpachi = ishiki tries the same combat style he did against Naruto and he gets slap to death by Kenpachi
This crap but in reverse
Isshiki cannot shrink Zanpakuto. No debate.
They aren’t a soul in a sword, the sword is literally the soul itself. Isshiki would be able to shrink Shinigami as well if he could.
Guys out here thinking Isshiki is gonna pull a SSJ2 Gohan on the War Potentials, maybe in his head he will, but he’ll randomly and instantly black out once Ichibei splashes him, erasing him conceptually from the past and future cause Aizen put him KS.
Isshiki cannot shrink Zanpakuto. No debate.
They aren’t a soul in a sword, the sword is literally the soul itself. Isshiki would be able to shrink Shinigami as well if he could.
Guys out here thinking Isshiki is gonna pull a SSJ2 Gohan on the War Potentials, maybe in his head he will, but he’ll randomly and instantly black out once Ichibei splashes him, erasing him conceptually from the past and future cause Aizen put him KS.
This.....
@fea: That seems like an outlier then bc that Giant tbb also didn't vape the ground either even though everyone claim they vaporize and not fragment or pulverize, the ground also uneven. Out of the 3 feats of durability it seems to have two shows them being casually broken by less force.
We seen the tailed beast beat him with their tails after, if we saying his ap is whatever lvl u put that juubidama+ I don't think that would be happening or less you saying he's a glass canon. And if Naruto characters are glass canons then again the war potentials wins again bc they are tankier and can dish out the AP to win.
@returntothevoid: Even if you disregard this specific feat, there are still many others like Naruto himself hitting 5 bijuudamas casually and it's not like that version of Naruto was even physically close to Isshiki.
The fight would boil down to kidous being thrown and shrunk all the time since the zampakutō would be shrunk, but the Isshiki would have a big advantage by being able to shrink and become undetectable (a skill common to all Otsutsuki), being able to simply enter the body of anyone. one of the potentials and expand, or worse, assimilate to them or absorb all of their energy as it did with Amaterasu.
There's the factor that there's no way shinigami can predict the damage from the black stakes that reach microscopic sizes and expand.
@fea:
The fight would boil down to kidous being thrown and shrunk all the time since the zampakutō would be shrunk
Zanpakuto cannot be shrunk. They are alive and sentient, they are not stored in a sword, the sword is the soul itself.
I don't think he can shrink they're zans but he can still neg the important stuff. ink, getsugas, kido, benihime's energy constructs etc.
I don't think he can shrink they're zans but he can still neg the important stuff. ink, getsugas, kido, benihime's energy constructs etc.
What happens once he gets put into KS? Ichibei can literally run into his face and splash him with ink, KS needs to restricted for this battle to be somewhat fair.
Also, for shrinking Ichibei’s ink, I’m not so sure. It doesn’t even use energy (stated on panel) and it seems to be conceptual in nature (simply the colour black).
@fea: Knocking away tbb doesn't mean he knocking away the explosion or something. Just means he knocked the physical ball and mass. That would be less than what Kenpachi did to the meteor which he hard stopped a giant meteor going at entrance speeds while violently fragmented it.
You should reply to Ninja on the zan part, hes saying it's part of their soul and if that's the case Ishikki will not be able to shrink them. Soul reapers are souls and see souls so even if he shrinks they should be able to see his soul. Verse isn't equal on this post so he's not absorbing anything here.
They wouldn't pierce their skin at all and they have reatsu aura around as I'm sure you know, that reatsu is going to disintegrate those microscopic stakes.
Now Ichibei takes the black on Ishikki for example his eyes and wrapped it around them and neg his power set. Or take the black from the marks on his body wrap that around him and neg his power then goes Bankai and change his name to ant. Steps on him.
Some would solo and all 5 give him a tough regardless. Someone like Ichibei hard counters Isshiki anyways. Spite.
@ninjarizer: I've still got doubts about ks working here but it would be the biggest threat for sure.
The ink still can be seen occupies space, weather or not its conceptual or energy based or anything arent really relevant.
@ultimatesage: no facts to back your statement, typical Stan.
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