Isaac Clarke Vs. Gordon Freeman

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The engineer Vs. the physisist.

Who shall win?

Who shall lose?

Let's find out!

Isaac Clarke

The rocket-engineer with bad@$$ abilities in combat
The rocket-engineer with bad@$$ abilities in combat

Gordon Freeman

The silent physicist with bad@$$ abilities too
The silent physicist with bad@$$ abilities too

Information For EachRound

- Start from 300 feet apart

- 2 rounds

- Morals off

- Win by death

- Maximum weapons: 4

- Zombies and Necromorphs will be in all 3 areas

Round One: Location, Set-up, Information & Rules

Location: White Forrest, City 17

For some reason, this gives me nostalgia
For some reason, this gives me nostalgia

Set-up for Isaac:

• Isaac has a Plasma Cutter, Line Gun, Javelin Gun & a Seeker Rifle

Plasma Cutter, DMG: 10
Plasma Cutter, DMG: 10

Line Gun, DMG: 15
Line Gun, DMG: 15
Javelin Gun, DMG: 10
Javelin Gun, DMG: 10
Seeker Rifle, DMG: 70. ALT Fire, Zoom, DMG: 100
Seeker Rifle, DMG: 70. ALT Fire, Zoom, DMG: 100

• Isaac has the Elite Security Suit

- Information about the Elite Security Suit:

Gives Isaac 25% protection and adds 15% damage to the Javeline gun

Elite Security Suit
Elite Security Suit

• Isaac has 5 Small Med Packs and One Medium Med Pack

- Information about Small Med Pack and Medium Med Pack:

A Small Med Pack grants Isaac 25% of health, a Medium Med Pack grants Isaac 50% of health

Small Med Pack
Small Med Pack
Medium Med Pack
Medium Med Pack

Set-up for Gordon:

• Gordon has a USP Match, SPAS-12, Crossbow & an MP7

USP Match, DMG: 5. Magazine: 12, Ammo: 65
USP Match, DMG: 5. Magazine: 12, Ammo: 65
SPAS-12, DMG: 56. ALT Fire, DMG: 84. Magazine: 8, Ammo: 32
SPAS-12, DMG: 56. ALT Fire, DMG: 84. Magazine: 8, Ammo: 32
Crossbow, DMG: 100. Ammo: 5 Arrows
Crossbow, DMG: 100. Ammo: 5 Arrows
MP7, DMG: 4. ALT Fire: Grenade Launcher, DMG: Unknown. Magazine: 50, Ammo: 200
MP7, DMG: 4. ALT Fire: Grenade Launcher, DMG: Unknown. Magazine: 50, Ammo: 200

• Gordon has the HEVSuit

- Information about the HEV Suit:

Gives Gordon 100% protection, however the protection can be decreased by damage

HEV Suit
HEV Suit

• Gordon has 10 Medkits

- Information about Medkit:

A Medkit grants Gordon 15% of health

Medkit
Medkit

Information:

• Every 3 minutes, there will be 5 necromorphs and 5 zombies

- The 5 necromorphs will be Slashers and the 5 zombies will be Standard Zombies

Slasher
Slasher
Standard Zombie
Standard Zombie

Information:

• Morning time

• Isaac and Gordon will not team up to kill the zombies and necromorphs

• Isaac's weapons are not upgraded

• Gordon's MP7 has only 2 grenades

Rules:

1.) No BFR

2.) No direct combat, only gun fight

3.) Necromorphs and zombies will only walk, they will not run

4.) The necromorphs and zombies ARE allowed to kill either Isaac or Gordon

Round Two: Location, Set-up, Information & Rules

Location: New Horizons Lunar Colony

Oxygen available...
Oxygen available...

Set-up for Isaac:

• Isaac has a Planet Cracker Plasma Cutter, Seeker Rifle, Contact Beam & a Pulse Rifle

Planet Cracker Plasma Cutter, DMG: 17
Planet Cracker Plasma Cutter, DMG: 17
Contact Beam, DMG: 175. ALT Fire, Radial Ground-base Shockwave, DMG: 200. Magazine: 3, Ammo: 30
Contact Beam, DMG: 175. ALT Fire, Radial Ground-base Shockwave, DMG: 200. Magazine: 3, Ammo: 30
Pulse Rifle, DMG:9. ALT Fire, Grenade Launcher, DMG: 30. Magazine: 75, Ammo: 300
Pulse Rifle, DMG:9. ALT Fire, Grenade Launcher, DMG: 30. Magazine: 75, Ammo: 300

• Isaac has the Elite Advanced Suit

- Information about the Elite Advanced Suit

Gives Isaac 25% protection, adds 10% damage to all weapons and boosts Stasis duration by 15%

Elite Advanced Suit
Elite Advanced Suit

• Isaac has 10 Small Med Packs, 3 Medium Med Packs,1 Large Med Pack, the Kinesis Module & the Stasis module

- Information about Large Med Pack, Kinesis Module and Stasis Module

A Large Med Pack grants Isaac 100% of health, the Kinesis Module grants Isaac the ability to move things and throw them away hard and the Stasis Module grants Isaac the ability to slow down a moving object

Large Med Pack
Large Med Pack
Kinesis Module
Kinesis Module
Stasis Module
Stasis Module

Set-up for Gordon:

• Gordon has a Colt Python, AR2, Gravity Gun & an RPG

Colt Python, DMG: 40. Magazine: 6, Ammo: 30
Colt Python, DMG: 40. Magazine: 6, Ammo: 30

AR2, DMG: 8 (per shot). Magazine: 30, Ammo: 180
AR2, DMG: 8 (per shot). Magazine: 30, Ammo: 180
Gravity Gun, DMG: Depends Of The Object
Gravity Gun, DMG: Depends Of The Object
RPG, DMG: 200. Magazine: 1, Ammo: 1
RPG, DMG: 200. Magazine: 1, Ammo: 1

• Gordon has the HEV Suit

• Gordon has 20 Medkits, a Bugbait and 3 MK3A2 Grenades

- Information about the Bugbait:

With the Bugbait, Gordon can summon Antlions

Antlion
Antlion

Information:

• Every minute, there will be 10 necromorphs and 10 zombies

- 5 necromorphs will be Slashers, the other 5 will be Pukers. 5 zombies will be Standard Zombies, the other 5 will be Zombines

Pukers, DMG: 10. Range: Short
Pukers, DMG: 10. Range: Short
Zombine, DMG: 15. Range: Very Close
Zombine, DMG: 15. Range: Very Close

Information:

• Gordon's AR2 has 2 Energy Balls

Energy Ball
Energy Ball

• The necromorphs and zombies will run at medium speed

• Isaac's weapons are fully upraged

• Necromorphs and zombies will apear every minute

Rules:

1.) No BFR

2.) Gordon will not use his strong weapons frequently

3.) Isaac will not use his strong weapons frequently

4.) Gordon can only summon 3 Antlions

5.) Isaac can use his Stasis only 3 times, each Stasis projectile recharges after 5 minutes

6.) Isaac can only pick up small and medium objects with Kinesis

7.) Gordon can only pick up small and medium objects with his Gravity Gun

8.) In case their ammo runs out, direct battle will be allowed

9.) The necromorphs and zombies are allowed to attack Isaac and gordon, they can even kill each other if too close

10.) The Energy Ball will only harm Isaac and the Contact Beam Shockwave will only harm Gordon

Let the battle begin!

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the necromorphs will kill Gordon most likely

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I'd say Isaac, he has the better weaponry and armor.

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That is a beautiful OP. *sniff*

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#5  Edited By SodamYat

Isaac Clarke is stupid.

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#7  Edited By Spiderman1997

Take away Godon's cowbar. He stomps Thanos with that thing.

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Dude this is amazing set up. Isaac clarke wins due to superior weapons, all 4 of those weapons could give even a spartan a severe beating and the suits are slash proof and also give their wearer strength augmentation

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@deathstrokesrevenge:

Thank you for that opinion on my post, and thank you for giving information why Clarke would win.

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This is a really nice battle btw.

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@bluejay4:

Thank you for your support, it means a lot (for a person who is still a beginner).

:)

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I'd say Gordon due to RPG and Gravity Gun.

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#16  Edited By Dygoboy

Amazing OP. Must bump this.

Isaac all rounds. He has been in a cluster buck of near death situations and came out on top.

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I was wanting to bump this thread, but it's already been done recently funny enjough. So: bump.

Couldn't Gordon use the gravity gun the rip any weapons Clarke has out of his hands? (I know he couldn't do it to the combine but that's simply game play mechanics).

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@nonokranendonk:

Couldn't Gordon use the gravity gun the rip any weapons Clarke has out of his hands? (I know he couldn't do it to the combine but that's simply game play mechanics).

Correct, the gravity gun can't affect organic matter, but it can just pulls Isaac's weapons away from him. I do not remember the weight limit to the weapon nor how heavy Isaac's suit is, but if it's within the zero point energy manipulator's parameters, Gordon could literally just pull him in and blast him to the heavens.

Anyway, Isaac round 1 for having better weapons and armor. Morals off Gordon babyshakes him in round 2. His gravity gun just pulls any weapon out of his hands or pulls him in and raggdolls him. Energy balls are a one-hit-ko, since they instakill even armored combine soldiers who can take ridiculous amounts of damage.

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#20  Edited By nonokranendonk

ts of damage.

@cpt_nice said:

@nonokranendonk:

Couldn't Gordon use the gravity gun the rip any weapons Clarke has out of his hands? (I know he couldn't do it to the combine but that's simply game play mechanics).

Correct, the gravity gun can't affect organic matter, but it can just pulls Isaac's weapons away from him. I do not remember the weight limit to the weapon nor how heavy Isaac's suit is, but if it's within the zero point energy manipulator's parameters, Gordon could literally just pull him in and blast him to the heavens.

Anyway, Isaac round 1 for having better weapons and armor. Morals off Gordon babyshakes him in round 2. His gravity gun just pulls any weapon out of his hands or pulls him in and raggdolls him. Energy balls are a one-hit-ko, since they instakill even armored combine soldiers who can take ridiculous amounts of damage.

Yeah, I agree with this statement. Plus, Gordon with HEV suit charge can take so much more punishment thanj Isaac, who needs to heal after a few Necromorph slashes.

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ts of damage.

@cpt_nice said:

@nonokranendonk:

Couldn't Gordon use the gravity gun the rip any weapons Clarke has out of his hands? (I know he couldn't do it to the combine but that's simply game play mechanics).

Correct, the gravity gun can't affect organic matter, but it can just pulls Isaac's weapons away from him. I do not remember the weight limit to the weapon nor how heavy Isaac's suit is, but if it's within the zero point energy manipulator's parameters, Gordon could literally just pull him in and blast him to the heavens.

Anyway, Isaac round 1 for having better weapons and armor. Morals off Gordon babyshakes him in round 2. His gravity gun just pulls any weapon out of his hands or pulls him in and raggdolls him. Energy balls are a one-hit-ko, since they instakill even armored combine soldiers who can take ridiculous amounts of damage.

Yeah, I agree with this statement. Plus, Gordon with HEV suit charge can take so much more punishment thanj Isaac, who needs to heal after a few Necromorph slashes.

Actually I would like to say that you're very wrong on that. Issac has taken a lot more punishment than Gordon and dished out a lot more.

And take away his weapons? Isaac takes it back. He has kinesis you know.

Or he slows down Gordon with Stasis.

And throw him into space? Unless there's a time limit to that BFR Isaac comes back.

Isaac has literally has gotten impaled by a Slasher and cut from it multiple times on the Dead Space 2 intro, and walked it off. And that was without any protective gear.

He has survived falls from mountains,cliffs,point blank explosions and and shrugs of impalement from other Necromorphs and even overpowers them.

And his weapons usually the long ones weight about 60+ lbs. And he holds them up casually even without the suit in which gives him augmented Super Strength. And that's for a Standard Engineer suit.

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In the short movie a back hand from the rig suit did this to someone.

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This is also one of the many reasons how Isaac can easily dismember the durable Necromorphs with one swing from his arm.

-Not only that. Isaac also multiple times fought back against the force of the vacuum of space.

And Isaac also augmented reaction. Making him capable of even perceiving the Super human blurr that is the Twitcher which dodged point blank gunfire from 2 soldiers and speed blitzed them. And he gets faced with hordes of it throughout the entire games.

The suits that Isaac wears also makes him a lot more durable. Giving him great resistance to acid type attacks, makes him immune to vacuum of space, Can withstand massive falls, regularly bullet resistant, has protective layers of the armor that stops Necromorph attacks on it's tracks, makes him tank point blank explosions, him getting blown through serverall reinforced walls ect...

For as awesome as Morgan Freeman might be he is simply outmatched by Isaac and outclassed in certain areas even TP resistance. But that really isn't worth talking about here. But

Durability, strength, damage soak and probably speed. Gordon is beaten.

And Isaac possesses the necessary tools to match Gordon at probably even exceed.

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#22  Edited By cpt_nice

@dygoboy:

Actually I would like to say that you're very wrong on that. Issac has taken a lot more punishment than Gordon and dished out a lot more.

Gordon can take explosions from striker cannons, which are legit building busters.

And take away his weapons? Isaac takes it back. He has kinesis you know.

Isaac's kinesis is weak sauce compared to the gravity gun. For one, it only works at near point blank range, closer than the gravity gun. Gordon pulls his weapons away and blasts them to the side, Isaac can do nothing about it except run after them.

Or he slows down Gordon with Stasis.

If he can hit him. Gordon is not some necromorph which just charge at Isaac in a straight line and never take cover.

And throw him into space? Unless there's a time limit to that BFR Isaac comes back.

And Isaac can no sell a fall from several stories? At the very least he will be stunned.

Isaac has literally has gotten impaled by a Slasher and cut from it multiple times on the Dead Space 2 intro, and walked it off. And that was without any protective gear.

I am sure that will save him from disintegration.

He has survived falls from mountains,cliffs

When?

,point blank explosions

As does Gordon

And his weapons usually the long ones weight about 60+ lbs. And he holds them up casually even without the suit in which gives him augmented Super Strength. And that's for a Standard Engineer suit.

In the short movie a back hand from the rig suit did this to someone.

Once again you show yourself good in just posting random snippets which are irrelevant. Gordon and Isaac are not gonna be in a fist fight, so how is their lifting and punching strength relevant. But if you want to go by gameplay mechanics, Gordon can one shot his way through solid wood using only a rusty crowbar and he can carry and use the gravity gun for hours, which other people have trouble lifting. And since the HEV does not increase his strength, this is all him in base.

Some buff scientist he is.

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-Not only that. Isaac also multiple times fought back against the force of the vacuum of space.

This battle does not take place in space.

Then there is some more nonsense, as I have come to expect from you. Anyway, the reason this all is irrelevant is twofold.

- Gravity Gun, which Isaac has zero answers to. What prevents Gordon from just ragdolling him and to keep doing this until he weighs an ounce? It will be like Wolverine fighting Magneto.

- This baby right here

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This is a ball of dark energy. It will immediately disintegrate anything it touches which is not a solid surface like a wall or floor. Combine shields, which allow them to bathe in machinegun fire and take point blank grenade explosions, does not prevent them from being one-shotted by this thing. It even disintegrates hunters, which are made purely of reinforced metal and other non-organic materials.

So what it comes down to is, Isaacs base stats are totally irrelevant. Gordon in round 2 has way better weapons.

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For a moment I thought the title said Morgan Freeman.

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Gordon can take explosions from striker cannons, which are legit building busters.

Alright.

Isaac's kinesis is weak sauce compared to the gravity gun. For one, it only works at near point blank range, closer than the gravity gun. Gordon pulls his weapons away and blasts them to the side, Isaac can do nothing about it except run after them.

Actually no. A fully upgraded kinesis goes on a long space. How else would he get stuff from such large distance gaps in cutscene. And when Isaac's Kinesis was fully powered he pulled an entire concrete rubble floor from the guts of the moon which a couple of miles away from him.

And even used the gigantic markers as projectiles against the moon.

So the real thing here is. Isaac grabs Gordon and throws him out of the city.

The range and power of his kinesis is a lot stronger. And I just noticed something. The OP nerfed Clark's Kinesis. Well damn.

If he can hit him. Gordon is not some necromorph which just charge at Isaac in a straight line and never take cover.

He doesn't need to hit him. It has an area affect. If you're within the a couple of feet away from the radius you're still getting slowed down.

And Isaac can no sell a fall from several stories? At the very least he will be stunned.

Yes.

When?

Multiple times on Dead Space 3 on Taus Vaolis. And survived falling off the moon.

Once again you show yourself good in just posting random snippets which are irrelevant. Gordon and Isaac are not gonna be in a fist fight, so how is their lifting and punching strength relevant. But if you want to go by gameplay mechanics, Gordon can one shot his way through solid wood using only a rusty crowbar and he can carry and use the gravity gun for hours, which other people have trouble lifting. And since the HEV does not increase his strength, this is all him in base.

And going through game mechanics? I just showcased you Isaac backhanding a dude and send him through a concrete wall. And the actual lore says it. I gave the picture for gods sake. Game Mechanics with great context brought into canon with QTE.

And most of Isaac's escape in QTE involve him overpowering Necromorphs and being strong enough to delimb them, crush them and even throw them off, and shrug off fatal injuries and even acid.

And that might not be relevant but whenever they both try to go close quarters only one has the sufficient stat advantage to take it.

And that gun he carries that weights 60+ is considered lightweight.

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And it wasn't Game Mechanics. Clack used this in cutscene during all the Dead Space games. Except probably for 3.

But like you said this is irrelevant. Just trying to make a point.

This battle does not take place in space.

Might not. But it show cases Isaac's ability to fight Gravity. It wouldn't be the first time he has been ragdolled on entire room. It has happened multiple times before and recently was without once again. Any protective gear. Just his good old civilian suit. And he was running it off.

- Gravity Gun, which Isaac has zero answers to. What prevents Gordon from just ragdolling him and to keep doing this until he weighs an ounce? It will be like Wolverine fighting Magneto.

So Ragdolling him around the room? Since that literally happens to him every damn time. It's literally useless. He will make Isaac grunt and slow him down that's the only thing he can do with it. And no BFR is allowed.

- This baby right here

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This is a ball of dark energy. It will immediately disintegrate anything it touches which is not a solid surface like a wall or floor. Combine shields, which allow them to bathe in machinegun fire and take point blank grenade explosions, does not prevent them from being one-shotted by this thing. It even disintegrates hunters, which are made purely of reinforced metal and other non-organic materials.

This is the only thing I can solidly agree that Isaac has no defense against. So I concede.

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#25  Edited By Noxifer626

Isaac could slow down those balls of dark energy with his stasis module, and if fully upgraded still have enough juice to slow down Gordon and tear him limb from limb with his plasma cutter.

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I'm voting for freeman

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Bump because of how detailed the OP is.

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@cpt_nice I actually did a calc on one of Isaac's Feats with Kinesis. He managed to pull back trains, 400 ton objects (Remember that ok) and even pulls off limbs from Necromorphs......... Never underestimate Isaac's Kinesis XD!!!

Secondly, Isaac actually stomps Gordon in every sense of the word. I do not care how strong Gordon is, he is not going to get out of Stasis and get blasted to the face by Isaac's Weapons. And what is this about Isaac losing his guns from the Gravity Gun? Kinesis and Stasis. Gordon may take one weapon from Isaac but once Isaac sees the same pattern, he will put Gordon on Stasis, get the gun back and wala.

Thirdly, Items. Why did you not even think about Isaac having a crap ton of Med Packs, Stasis Packs and Ammo? Where is the Force Gun? The Contact Beam? Gordon has an RPG? Well Isaac can just use Kinesis to send it back. XD!!!

Seriously, stop underestimating Isaac by lowballing him.

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@cpt_niceNo offense but your severely underestimating Isaac Clarke it is treading the line of "Biased". I actually know both Gordon and Isaac to the tiniest detail and I say Isaac does win. Stasis.... The End......

And before you start giving me this "Gravity Gun" stuff, need I remind you that it never took away "Modules" ever.... Stasis is emitted from a Module, not a weapon. So even if Isaac lose a weapon and is in the Gravitational pull of that "Gravity Gun", bear in Mind Isaac as survived A CRAP TON OF STUFF!!!!! That allows him to indeed survive anything Gordon has thrown at him. What is stopping Isaac from using Stasis on Gordon while he is getting grabbed by the Gravity Gun? Nothing. Stop making biased remarks about Gordon stomping Isaac all the time without providing fair assessment.