Is There Anyone In Japanese Media That Can Defeat Umineko's Featherine Augustus Aurora and Creator Beatrice Ushiromiya?

@kilgpmktra: Combining scans of mine, yours, and Ovy's, I concluded personally that the Human Domain is most likely infinite-D (I don't use VS Battles trash logic though).

I posted a bit of it here, and me and Etriel got into it. This wasn't our big debate that we started but never finished; this was just a minor argument. (I don't remember where the big debate thread is.)

I think the difference between us Kil, is that I am fine with using high-balled interpretations of things, so long as they have a chance of being valid and aren't impossible wank like infinite-D Demonbane, ect, which is blatantly 100% invalid. I even use high-balled interpretations for verses I don't like, such as DC and Marvel; so it isn't one-sided.

I currently believe Umineko's high-ball is more likely than the mid-ball, but I'm too lazy right now to post a TLDR. If I find me and Etriel's unfinished debate, I'll send it since it shows a bit more of my idea on everything.

I can't stress enough though that I despise VS Battles and do not high-ball Umineko for the same reasons they do, aka "Transcends dimensions, GG!"

I also plan on making a mid-ball thread with them soon against people who can actually challenge them.

@zgtfreak: I know...it is because they consider him the literal author in a fictional form.

@endless_dark said:

i like this.

@caocao said:

GG.

@zgtfreak said:

@caocao said:

GG.

Hahaha.... good one.

Is Featherine omnipotent or what? Cuz many people in this forum seem to believe she stomps Pre retconned Beyonder, Micheal, Lucifer, HOTU Thanos, and the strongest incarnation of Mr Mxp

@grandtoaa: Aurora/Featherine IS above Pre-recton Beyonder with her mid-ball interpretation alone and is around equal with non-composite Lucifer and Michael. Creator Beatrice scales to Featherine and should be a bit superior to her overall due to certain reasons in my mind. High-balled Featherine and Creator Beatrice blink all of Marvel (excluding omnipotent TOAA) and seem to only be below composite DC.

No, neither are omnipotent. The Creator is the omnipotent in their verse.

@zgtfreak: Would you be so kind as to post these character's feats? Maybe the Chousin (collectively) or Kami Tenchi could best either.

@sungsam: Curious to know your opinion, which cosmology you think is complex as or at least close to be comparable to Umineko(Not including anime, manga or novels just beliefs/religions)

@higherpower: I'll do it when I wake up. @ovy7 Has RTs he can link you for mid-ball Umineko.

Isn't Kami Tenchi omnipotent?

@zgtfreak: Arguably. If someone wanted to argue that they would have every right; the problem is that the main evidence I've seen for it comes from an OVA.

The Chousin have been stated to be omnipotent as well, but few argue them as such.

... Just beliefs and religions? I'm afraid no such thing exist. If you asked a Muslim about feats for Allah, you don't know what will happen to you.

It's typical procedure for something to have a limit to not be Omnipotent. Coming from a guy who used to think the Chousin were Omnipotent (me).

I once pitched to @kilgpmktra a special tiering system nearly a year ago about measuring characters VIA how far they are from Omnipotence. But this never caught on.

@sungsam: Is Allah overpowered ?

Allah-Akbar is Omnipotens

The Champ's got this...

@sungsam: Fair enough then.

So in your opinion which verse is the 2nd more complex in your opinion ?

Second? Umineko's Cosmology has infinite layers/dimensions/levels. The highest transacting layer is the Creator Multiverse and the lowest layer is that of the Human Multiverse. Now whether you want to think that it is somehow longer and taller than another Infinitely Layered Cosmology in another verse because it's internal constructs is more explained in detail, that's a story for another time that must be resolved.

But I think the second largest if not the closest or probably equal is Dark Tower. so since I personally like to compare Umineko's Cosmology to the Dark Tower of Stephen King's Omniverse as being the closest to Umineko's structure in terms of nature because it is a bottomless and topless Infinitely Layered Tower.

Any level of the tower you are on, there is always infinite layers above you and infinite layers below you. If you cut an Infinite-D Vertical Multiverse in half to a vertical cross-section, does that Infinite-D Multiverse become DOUBLE-Infinite D?

Do you think there is a difference between an infinitely long stick and infinitlyxinfinitely long stick when you put them together side by side? If you cut an infinitely long stick in half, is it double infinite length now? IDK. They share the same dimensionality. But things of the same dimensionality are not always the same size. Or are they?

It really depends on your values and how much logic you are willing to throw out the window. Which is necessary in all Multiverse debates, but how much logic do you throw away? I can't stop you if you think this and that.

Hajun Edg I/O verse etc.

You wonder if the people wanking these VNs like ^ actually have played the games they wank. A lot of them don't.

Natsuhi with a shotgun solos those verses (I'm not joking). They stand absolutely no chance against the Creator Witches. Demonbane and IO are baseline multiversal, with Hajun being 6-D megaversal at best.

@zgtfreak: I/O characters also have many abilities like Reality Warping, Time Manipulation, Regeneration, Resurrection, etc.

Even Infinite Dimensional entities are considered to be extremely weak within the verse.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/6a/I-o-66.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194345.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/32/I-o-67.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194401. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/e/e7/I-o-69.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194451. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/b/b3/I-o-71.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194529. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/2/29/I-o-70.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194512. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/1a/I-o-72.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194548. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/42/I-o-73.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194609. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/d/dd/I-o-74.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322194628. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/16/I-o-76.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322195455. serious to beyonder and weak in the universe of I / O hajun te taikyoku infinite a character with 1 of taikyoku already surpasses the throne hiperdimenca that surpasses all the dimensions infinite edg does not have what to nor to speak I am not saying that they would gain more it would not be a stomp and also has kami temchi

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Infinite dimensional in I/O isn't really that impressive, because those dimensions just contain an unknown number of universes, A.K.A implied finite. This is just on the level of an infinite universal reality warper, nothing special. You must consider that dimensions in fictions always work otherwise.

Mimikyu and Bewear.

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@gabrielthelord

I/O characters also have many abilities like Reality Warping, Time Manipulation, Regeneration, Resurrection, etc.

Fodder to Umineko low-tiers.

Even Infinite Dimensional entities are considered to be extremely weak within the verse.

Nope. The dimensions in I/O seem to only be finite in space, capping out all of them to baseline multiversal, with god-tiers being 5-D to 6-D at best ASSUMING there are an infinite amount of these worlds. The problem is that all of your scans use the word "countless" instead of infinite, meaning there are most likely only a finite amount of these worlds, putting them at multi-universal at best.

hajun te taikyoku infinite a character with 1 of taikyoku already surpasses the throne hiperdimenca that surpasses all the dimensions

There are no infinite dimensions in Dies Irae. The Throne equates to a baseline multiverse that Taikoyo's surpass by an immeasurable (implying immeasurably finite) amount, putting them at 5-D. Mercerius's best feat is 6-D, meaning the god-tiers scale to him, putting them all at 6-D.

Demonbane is 5-D infinite multiversal fodder.

Please stop using VS Battles, as their tiering system is a joke. Even if you wank I/O, Dies Irae, and Demonbane, Umineko low-tiers still solo their verses, let alone the two characters in this thread, who are the god-tiers of the verse.

@zgtfreak Debated with him in a Beyonder vs Reinhard thread. Dude is rediculous.

@yasindermann: Funny, I just read that thread.

@zgtfreak: He just post scans without giving context and actual debating. Sometimes I highballed his scans a little bit, because even then Shinza Bansho doesn't stand a chance xD

@zgtfreak: hahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha. The difference between Sakuya and Marduk is like between Marduk and an ordinary human; She is able to change a whole meta-world easily, by one thought. She is far superior to, and transcendent above, even the most powerful beings within the meta world.https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/45/I-o-202.png/revision/latest?cb=20150508131929 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/fe/I-o-203.png/revision/latest?cb=20150508131944 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/37/I-o-201.png/revision/latest?cb=20150508131921 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f5/I-o-204.png/revision/latest?cb=2015050813195 https://m.imgur.com/gallery/7h8Sv https://m.imgur.com/a/uidJkWk https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/16/I-o-76.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322195455 (Exists over infinite higher levels of existence, each level containing their own multiverse of unknown size http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916193654/anime-characters-fight/ru/images/e/e9/I-o-123.png http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916223744/anime-characters-fight/ru/images/e/ed/I-o-141.png In meta-form HE is above a complex structure with infinite layers with dimensional-like difference between them and exists on a level where concepts of time and space are meaningless. https://m.imgur.com/a/uidJkWk https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/8/8f/I-o-128.png/revision/latest?cb=20150810185442 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/fb/I-o-129.png/revision/latest?cb=20150810185458 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/01/I-o-127.png/revision/latest?cb=20150810185508 until now you have just deviated from the information I gave you, as taikyoku said, and the power of existence covers the whole dimension of existence, and so on. the throne itself sees the notions as irrelevant time and space and need not speak. edg = Featherine

@yasindermann: @zgtfreak: I don't know why you guys insist so much with him, he's not gonna listen, so the best option is to use the same weapon he uses:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Featherine_Augustus_Aurora

This is Featherine's profile. She's Tier 0, above anyone from DI, Demonbane, or I/O, so much so that they may very well be fictional bacteria to her.

@ovy7: I have not used vs battle your wiki