Is there any version of blood lusted Superman that can beat a blood lusted Flash (Wally West)?

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#1  Edited By Ganstaz003
  1. Standard version
  2. The most powerful version

In a random encounter!

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These supermen's can beat any flash

pc superman

superman1million kal kent

superboy prime

superman prime(guardian amp)

superman prime 1million(hype)

cosmic armour superman

there are other supermans am forgetting about as well.

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#4  Edited By Costy21

@gamingod said:

These supermen's can beat any flash

pc superman

superman1million kal kent

superboy prime Maybe

superman prime(guardian amp)

cosmic armour superman

there are other supermans am forgetting about as well.

Better

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@gamingod said:

These supermen's can beat any flash

pc superman

superman1million kal kent

superboy prime-this one's iffy

superman prime(guardian amp)

superman prime 1million(hype)

cosmic armour superman

there are other supermans am forgetting about as well.

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You mean the most powerful version Chain Lightning and/or the Human Race that out ran INSTANT teleportation!! But probs Karl Kent. Thought Robot, also. I don't if anyone counts him though.

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You mean the most powerful version Chain Lightning and/or the Human Race that out ran INSTANT teleportation!! But probs Karl Kent. Thought Robot, also. I don't if anyone counts him though.

The instance in which The Flash outrun instant teleportation was/is BS.

The Flash was being amped by every single being on Earth including all of the Justice League.

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#9  Edited By Gamingod

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there is nothing like maybe. Superboy prime would beat flash no questions asked.

He is fast enough to react to 3 speedblitzing flashes and durable enough to tank a galaxy buster.

Flash cant put down someone who can tank a galaxy buster, can react to his speed and can hit harder than him.

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  1. Standard version
  2. The most powerful version

In a random encounter!

a blood lusted superman would destroy wally. it's only on comic vine where wally is untouchable. superman is written above wally in cannon d.c.

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Lol @these answers..

Cosmic Armor Superman, Silver Age Superman and maybe Kal Kent if it's morals on.

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Regular Superman bloodlusted can destroy the planet. Wally can't survive in space. If bloodlusted Wally goes back in time and kills baby Clark then only he wins.

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Pre-Crisis Superman. The dude is a laughable walking plot armor. He's so ridiculous that I literally laugh everytime I see one of his feats.

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#14  Edited By Gamingod

Point is there are several supermen that could take flash, including regular superman. Depending on morals

regular supes can go airborne and do a planetary heat vision of he really means to kill flash

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LMAO.

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Prime, Kal Kent, SA Superman.

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Yes.

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@gamingod:

Could he take Flash mite or Human race Flash?

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Honestly I don't think so. A bloodlusted Wally would hit him with IMPS in a picosecond.

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Death Battle Superman has unlimited power so he could.

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@nerevarine_11: Of course he can. If Superman is on the ground, Wally murders him. But that's assuming he's on the ground and within Wally's reach. Truthfully, the entire fight depends on Superman's starting position alone.

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@acrokat said:

Death Battle Superman has unlimited power so he could.

Did someone say Death Battle Superman?

Well of course. He has Infinite Speed and is clearly stronger than Molecule Man.

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@lord-parallax: How does Wally survive in space? Even if he does, how does he fight Superman?

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@acrokat said:

Death Battle Superman has unlimited power so he could.

Did someone say Death Battle Superman?

Well of course. He has Infinite Speed and is clearly stronger than Molecule Man.

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@lord-parallax: How does Wally survive in space? Even if he does, how does he fight Superman?

Wally has ran in space before, no issue

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@lord-parallax said:
@acrokat said:

Death Battle Superman has unlimited power so he could.

Did someone say Death Battle Superman?

Well of course. He has Infinite Speed and is clearly stronger than Molecule Man.

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All of your answers can be found here:

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/lord-parallax/blog/death-battle-superman-respect-thread/128552/#comments-block-1831311

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@nerevarine_11

what is infinity mass punch gonna do to someone like superman prime who survived a universe buster? Tickle him to death?

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@gamingod said:

@nerevarine_11

what is infinity mass punch gonna do to someone like superman prime who survived a universe buster? Tickle him to death?

How bout a million in picoseconds?

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@blackestnight93: That's PIS. Wally shouldn't be able to run in space. I'm fine with Wally being faster than instant teleportation, but running through space is plain bullshit. Giving a character silly powers not consistent with his character ruins it.

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#31  Edited By kbroskywalker

@gamingod said:

These supermen's can beat any flash ANY FLASH?

pc superman Wally west massively amped pc supes+ 49 of the other strongest oc heroes and even then utterly outclassed them

superman1million kal kent coie barry allen will never lose to him, case could be made for wally at the end of his career

superboy prime HA, no

superman prime(guardian amp) Not vs kc wally, wally or coie barry

superman prime 1million(hype)

cosmic armour superman not superman

there are other supermans am forgetting about as well.

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@gamingod said:

Point is there are several supermen that could take flash, including regular superman. Depending on morals

regular supes can go airborne and do a planetary heat vision of he really means to kill flash

No, regular superman gets beat by prime bart allen regardless of morals

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@wallywest042: wally west has tanked blasts from the antimonitor, survived half of himself being out of exisitince, and tanked a universe busting antimatter wave while depowered, try again.

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Wally definitely has, on at least 2 occasions, ran around Superman millions of times before Superman even moved, calling him a statue. And this was PC Superman, not N52.

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lol

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@wallywest042: and tanked a universe busting antimatter wave while depowered

Are you implying that Wally West has universe busting durability?

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@kbroskywalker: Those are all PIS and CIS. Like I explained above, these are powers not consistent with Wally. Yes, he has survived punches from Zoom, but tell me honestly, do you consider Wally to be a speedster or a guy physically impervious to harm? Also, if he's in space and not dead, how will he fight supes who does obviously better in space. Or are you suggesting that Wally moves better than supes in space?

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@wallywest042: Wally had ran in space a few times so it's not pis. Scans available upon request.

According to CV rules, If a starting position is not stated then they start on the ground 10 ft apart.

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@p00ty: If they start on the ground, then wally probably kills most versions by scrambling their brains and/or organs (a horrible way to die). However I don't see Superman Prime, SMP One Million and CA superman going down. They win every case. Can't say about Kal Kent.

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@wallywest042: You mentioned brain and organ scrambling. Why wouldn't that work on SMP, SMP Million or CA Superman?

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@gamingod said:

@costy21 @goldchamp101

there is nothing like maybe. Superboy prime would beat flash no questions asked.

He is fast enough to react to 3 speedblitzing flashes and durable enough to tank a galaxy buster.

Flash cant put down someone who can tank a galaxy buster, can react to his speed and can hit harder than him.

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@p00ty: SMP wasn't killed by a Guardian, Monarch, Mxy..whatever (all who can manipulate matter on a molecular level). He's not even affected by Mxy's reality altering powers. Obviously Flash can't just vibrate through him. He's impervious to almost every physical attack. SMPOM doesn't have feats, but he was stated to have insane power levels, basically a God. I don't think he should be killed by the flash. I mean the Presence doesn't have much feats, but obviously he can't be killed by the flash! SMPOM isn't the Presence, but the character is meant to be an omnipotent, invincible guy. At the very least, he should have invulnerability to scrambling and altering of his own body. As for CA Superman, are you really asking this? Read Final Crisis. The thought robot isn't going down to the flash.

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@p00ty: Technically, CA Supes is not a Superman though.

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@wallywest042: I'm not familiar with those versions of Superman that is why I asked.

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blue energy superman. he can keep up with wally phase through attacks and drain him of energy

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@goldchamp101: OK. Read it. But still that many years in the sun probably enhanced his durability to at leat silver age levels. If superboy prime is durable enough to survive a guardian, no reason to believe that SMP1M can't. Once again this is all an assumption as the dude has no feats.

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@wallywest042:

Well almost everything about SMP1M is Speculation.

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@p00ty: OK. Superman Prime One Million and Kal Kent appeared in DC One Million. Superboy Prime appeared first in some silver age story, but you will find him in Crisis on Infinite Earths. He then appears in Infinite Crisis. In Sinestro Corps War, you'll see him kicked out of this universe. He transforms into Superman Prime in Countdown to Final Crisis (he already called himself SM Prime in SCW but comicvine calls him SMP after SCW occured). In Final Crisis itself, you'll see the Thought Robot/Cosmic Armor Superman.