Is MCU Thor this strong now?

I would say shifting the rings is better due to their size

Highly doubt it.

Probably. No way to say for sure, tbh. I don't see him doing anything like that anytime soon though.

He can at least support that weight and not get crushed...

No.

Lol are you guys serious?

That apartment building is lightweight compared pulling those rings (which were a small planet).

Not only that Thor threw Rocket's spacecraft several miles with enough force to kickstart pulling the rings. Then he asked Rocket to boost the maximum thrusters which were enough to pull the rings while he planet his feet and straight up resisted all that force.

Not to mention the whole purpose of those miles long ring were to open the star gate, they weren't working so Thor had to use his pure strength to do the work a machine that is miles long.

Nope

I’d say so. Thor is the new heavyweight champ in the MCU now.

Both his strength feats in Infinity war are better.

His infinity war feats are more impressive

You are vastly overestimating the size of those rings mate.

Thor's strength hasn't even been shown to increase.. all his buffs so far have been lightning-based. He nay well be stronger now, but we don't know that and we certainly don't know by how much.

yeah, saying those rings are a small planet is not right

a quick google search will tell you that a neutron star typically has a 30 km radius (this one could be even smaller for all we know)

for comparison Pluto(which is considered too small to be a planet) has a radius of 1188 km

The only reason Thor can't replicate that exact feat is because when he flies he only has one arm free

You are both correct in saying he's overestimating its size, but it really doesn't matter at all. It's infinitely larger than a building.

According to DCEU fans no. But then again according to those fans no one is strong in comparison to Superman as he is Superman and that means he is infinite in all regards forever and ever.

Superman in the DCEU is around 10,000 tons onscreen showing and while Diana was in the area he threw a slow motion punch at Barry, considering the speed at which gravity pushes objects toward the ground is 9.8 m/s²

This means Superman and Barry were moving at least fast enough to make gravity appear frozen. So we could find that out if I didn't have something better to do. Someone want to look into that?

Also Neutron Stars have the size of around 9.2 miles in diameter.

It is also in Space, which makes it impossible to quantify given how gravity doesn't work quite the same way. It was clear that Rocket's escape pod was powerful enough to move them, do you think the escape pod could lift a building on earth?

No

Moving those rings is way better than the building feat , the rings where insanely huge and where orbiting a neutron star don't a building is even close.

Certainly, something that's got enough thrust for interstellar travel isn't going to struggle pulling a small building.

it impossible to quantify given how gravity doesn't work quite the same way

Impossible to quantify in the sense we can't get an exact number like we can with the building but given the overwhelming size disparity involved it's clear one of the feats isn't in the same league as the other.

No evidence.

That Spacecraft was pulling away from the gravitational pull of a dying Neutron Star.

Source: Physics Department, University Of Illinois

Now what's the bet someone tries to say that because they're in space they aren't subjected to anywhere near that amount of gravity

@buildhare:

Certainly, something that's got enough thrust for interstellar travel isn't going to struggle pulling a small building.

I would have to disagree.

Impossible to quantify in the sense we can't get an exact number like we can with the building but given the overwhelming size disparity involved it's clear one of the feats isn't in the same league as the other.

Not really. IN fact, moving inert objects in space requires little to no power at all. The only thing Thor and Rocket had to do there was break the ice that was holding the mechanism from moving.

@citizensurfer: The star clearly didn't exhibit that pull at all. Otherwise, it would pull in Groot and Rocket and crush them with it's gravity field. Nice try.

Are you assuming (again) that a Neutron Star has no gravitational pull?

I don't think he's assuming that, I think the movie gave visual evidence for that, so the shielding around the star made by the dwarves definitely seemed to effect the gravity

which would explain why the rings around it weren't destroyed either

@buildhare: Considering the ship has interstellar drives that is true. They travel to a whole different part of the galaxy from my understanding while the Guardians where heading toward Earth.
We know there is gravity out there just not how much. When Thor is burnt out and falls, he falls fairly quick, quick enough to at least make impact before the interstellar ship could reach him from a few miles away (Something that should be pretty quick when you understand interstellar distances)
Neutron stars can have the same solar mass as our sun, actually just a little more and up to three times as much.

What makes these numbers hard is how the hell does one restart a star? Are the rings moving the dense superliquid of the core inside the star and generating magnetic fields and heat enough to 'ignite'? We don't know. But they did nail the hard outer crust of the star with a warm interior we just don't know how much energy was now being output.

But I would like to point out moving the rings is not simply breaking the ice. An object in motions wants to stay in motion and an object at rest wants to stay at rest. So it required a lot more energy than breaking some ice to get the rings moving. He would have had to impart onto them enough force to get them spinning all on his own as they where without motion in space.

As for the heat. There is clearly air around him (We know Rocket is in the ship) and Groot might be just far enough away to not be effected.. but his wood did survive reentry so high heat is nothing new. But the air in which Thor is breathing and speaking in would ignite with that much heat and radiation. A star's output is mostly radiation but thermal radiation is still part of it. If it ignited the atmosphere around Thor that would explain why the beam washes over Thor and continues on its course (Its a focused beam) Plasma can get insanely hot so his durability is top notch now.

The weight of the doors is curious and very hard to calculate because those doors wouldn't need to be thick enough to stop the beam as we see the beam dies off once they are closed. But they have to be thick enough to not be destroyed by the beam in that time. As we see its about 3 or so seconds for the beam to cut off and finish being fired at the door even after the iris closed. To withstand something like a focused beam... well its hard to say. I don't know how thick the metal would have to be if it were steel to withstand that. Because I am looking up things like how thick would a steel wall have to be to survive a nuke and they are all coming up that they would vaporize, even 100 ft thick wouldn't survive if the bomb was in the middle of a 100 ft thick steel wall silo and it exploded. So its hard to figure the strength he would need to lift the iris doors open. But its impressive.

That one is too much for him, he can pull the ship though.

@chimeroid: Really almost no energy huh... what happens if an asteroid hits the earth? Does it move around? No? Well then your argument is flawed now isn't it?
The truth is it is reduced a lot but not removed entirely but the amount of energy it would take to move something lets say as big as the space station (Which we should all be able to say it MUCH less than the rings) But it still requires quiet a bit of thrust and energy to keep the station up to its 17,000 mph speed.

I don't think he's assuming that, I think the movie gave visual evidence for that, so the shielding around the star made by the dwarves definitely seemed to effect the gravity

If there was no gravity then the rings would have floated away, they're being kept in a stable orbit around the star.

which would explain why the rings around it weren't destroyed either

The things designed to contain the Neutron Star aren't destroyed by a Neutron Star? Astounding.

@tonymartial: Where is your evidence? The problem I have with any naysayer is this. It seems a lot of speakers (Not saying you are one of these people) seem to be playing cognitive dissonance, where they are trying to make sure nothing can come close to what they have already sort of judged Thor to be at so anything that questions that assumption must be dismissed as "Can't be true" and they will outright ignore feats to stay within it. In the Super vs Thor thread we had people outright claiming they were ignoring the star feat entirely because they "Didn't like it" but wanted to use the "Superman shifts a tectonic plate to prevent a earthquake" feat at the highest possible strength level.

but the earth isn't stationary, earth is moving roughly 1000 miles per hour and is being pulled along by the sun, those asteroids would have to overcome earths existing momentum

@mrnoital: And if they hit the Earth further along in its momentum? So if it hit us in the "Ass End" as it where? Or closer toward the sun?

they were fixed to the star, the casing going around the star that blocked out the light

and when they activated the machine it let out that concentrated blast of light cause it was all connected

and if you recall, part of the machine designed to contain a neutron star was destroyed by a neutron star, thats the entire reason Thor had to hold the doors open, cause it couldn't handle the pressure the star gave out without the shielding, astounding right?

After the rings had been freed from the ice they were moving freely, which would mean that Thor would only need to crack the ice so the rings would be free. Even then, people are acting like he pulled those rings. That's wrong, he tossed Rocket's ship and held it in place. Holding something in place requires much less strenght than lifting something. MCU Spiderman held 1600 ton in each arm, doesn't mean he can lift even 1/10th of that.

Thor can probably lift the building, but he can't carry it effortlessly like Clark. Putting that little effort in doing what Clark did requires tens of thousands of tons of strenght.

Even then, can anyone even quantify this? Lol

I think if we assumed that the rings likely had at least the strength and density of steel, once the DVD comes out we might be able to ballpark the mass of the rings. Do you think assuming the rings are at least made of a material comparable to steel is fair?

@mrnoital: This is true it did give out. To which Etri did seem annoyed, almost like he was annoyed a part gave out on a car. But we must also remember Thanos encased his hands in metal to destroy them/render them useless. Its not above him to sabo the forge in some way.

what you just said makes no sense

as i said it would have to overcome earths existing momentum, and is a completely different situation from moving something that has no momentum

I am not assuming anything. I am outright saying that the mechanism around the star CLEARLY prevented the gravity of the star affecting those who were in the forge. If it didn't they wouldn't be standing in the forge, they would get pulled towards the star. I think this is very basic physics, but i should now better than to try and argue with CS...

@mrnoital: You just said it takes virtually no energy to move an object in space. But yes getting an object moving is space is a lot easier. But a single micro meteor is not going to knock a stationary asteroid hundreds of thousands of miles per second unless it too was moving even faster than that to impart that energy.

“Both”?

@mrnoital: That's how I saw it. The dwarves were able to block the gravity and keep the heat..

@perpetr8rmike: well duh

I never said otherwise

@uugieboogie:

Moving the rings and holding the iris open.

@mrnoital: No you didn't you just stated something very very simple and made it seem trivial. For rings to move at all Thor would have to act on them with enough force to get them to move. Yes in this case he would need to act on 1 ring to make the other connected rings work. He met resistance with the ice meaning he would have had to exert even more force than would have been required to move the ring normally.

Oh okay. Thought it was something I missed.

Supermans lifting feat is a proper lifting feat no questions asked. Thors however raises so many eyebrows and has so many contradictions (science included) thats is largely unquantifiable. But I can see Thors fan claiming it is at least better than the building feat which is Okay I guess.

@perpetr8rmike: and Thor didn't exert and more force than the ship gave, in the end the little ship did all the towing and Thor was just the anchor

we have to remember that these rings were made to move, and once they broke the ice it was smooth sailing

I'm not saying this isn't impressive, but I don't think this is anywhere as impressive as people make it out to be, people are acting like he's lifting a planet

I believe that Thor’s IW feat is more impressive, but Clark has consistently been more impressive in the raw strength category. We really haven’t seen God Mode Thor try to lift anything though.

Both of them are uber strong and I love it.