Is Ki>>>Hax?

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Does ki give Hax resistance?

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Depends on the Hax

If it’s like a illusion and the person had strong enough AP Ki to break out of it then yes.

But if it’s like Hax that’s hot as the sun, or Hax that can teleport them away via BFR then the Hax can be a problem If they have no way of countering it.

I mean the verse even has its own Hax proving Hax > Ki depending on the Hax. Like Babadi mind manipulation can work on someone As strong as Dabura who has a way higher Ki than Babadi but due to the nature of the Hax it can work.

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sometimes

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Ki makes them completely immune to hax, they would stomp Shinza Bansho with it

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Why do people mention Shinza for no reason?

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#10  Edited By Raziel2014

yes and no, the resistance comes from the difference in power, hax in DBZ are also powered by KI so naturally there would be resistance if the power of Ki between fighter is different.

if its only DBZ verse we are talking about then yes if its other verses then no.

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Not really

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No.

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No. Ki isn´t above hax, let alone it´s prove for hax resistance/immunity. Resting hax is going with feats, like Vegeta ignoring Babidi his curse, or Jiren breaking Hit his timecage. That alone isn´t an automatic guarantee against every kind of hax, only against comparable hax or inferior hax that was resisted before.

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Not even

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Of course ki has hax resistance, as was shown in the series.

They aren't above hax though, obviously.

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Depends on hax but usually yes

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Ki resistance to hax that it showed resistance too via feats. Like time resistance via jiren resisting time cage, matter manipulation like vegito, existent erasure/soul erasure from hakai, mind control from babidi, and ect.

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Also absolute zero from vegeta in TOP. Mind control also can be resisted via UI since the body does not need the mind to fight.

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No.

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Depends case by case.

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@lordragoon: Babidi's mind control wasn't depended on ki but hakai and time stop are perfect examples of ki overpowering hax.

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yes w/out doubt

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Depends on the hax.

Vegito got turned to candy but Vegeta could resist mind control.

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@gelato_exotic: you contradicted yourself with the vegito example.

Vegito was turned to candy but still had consciousness, speech, flight, and a power level, so even though he was affected by it he resisted it majorly compared to everyone else hit by it.

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No, if that was the case Vegito wouldn't have got turned into a candy. Hax resistance is hax resistance and in DB it scales with strength, but that doesn't mean Ki makes them immune to all hax because it doesn't, resistance =/= immunity. And even then, higher Ki can't resist all hax as shown with Moro, but the hax it can resist does scale among the characters, if that makes any sense.

Depends on the Hax

If it’s like a illusion and the person had strong enough AP Ki to break out of it then yes.

But if it’s like Hax that’s hot as the sun, or Hax that can teleport them away via BFR then the Hax can be a problem If they have no way of countering it.

I mean the verse even has its own Hax proving Hax > Ki depending on the Hax. Like Babadi mind manipulation can work on someone As strong as Dabura who has a way higher Ki than Babadi but due to the nature of the Hax it can work.

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#26  Edited By Death8Dragon  Online

Yeah Ki gives you Immunity to these haxs

  • Fate manipulation
  • Plot manipulation
  • Reality warping
  • Atom manipulation
  • Time manipulation
  • Time stop
  • Power nullification
  • Death manipulation
  • Probability manipulation
  • Biological manipulation
  • Precog
  • Causality manipulation
  • Existence erasure
  • Soul manipulation
  • Law manipulation
  • Durability negation
  • Conceptual manipulation
  • Age manipulation
  • Disease manipulation
  • Conceptual existence erasure
  • Void manipulation
  • Mind manipulation
  • Anti Magic
  • Matter manipulation
  • Data manipulation
  • Fire manipulation
  • Ice manipulation
  • Magic
  • Radiation manipulation
  • Memory erasure and Memory manipulation
  • Energy manipution
  • Light manipulation
  • Sound manipulation
  • Gravity manipulation
  • Particle manipulation
  • Heat Manipulation
  • Author authority

And so much more

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No

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Yeah Ki gives you Immunity to these haxs

  • Fate manipulation
  • Plot manipulation
  • Reality warping
  • Atom manipulation
  • Time manipulation
  • Time stop
  • Power nullification
  • Death manipulation
  • Probability manipulation
  • Biological manipulation
  • Precog
  • Causality manipulation
  • Existence erasure
  • Soul manipulation
  • Law manipulation
  • Durability negation
  • Conceptual manipulation
  • Age manipulation
  • Disease manipulation
  • Conceptual existence erasure
  • Void manipulation
  • Mind manipulation
  • Anti Magic
  • Matter manipulation
  • Data manipulation
  • Fire manipulation
  • Ice manipulation
  • Magic
  • Radiation manipulation
  • Memory erasure and Memory manipulation
  • Energy manipution
  • Light manipulation
  • Sound manipulation
  • Gravity manipulation
  • Particle manipulation
  • Heat Manipulation
  • Author authority

And so much more

lmao.

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@skrskr said:

@gelato_exotic: you contradicted yourself with the vegito example.

Vegito was turned to candy but still had consciousness, speech, flight, and a power level, so even though he was affected by it he resisted it majorly compared to everyone else hit by it.

He didn't? While Vegito still had consciousness except he still got turned into a Candy which means he didn't resist transmutation at 100%, this also proves that Vegito's body can be altered via haxes like Reality warping, Biological manipulation, Physics manipulation,......

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Ki > Omnipotence

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Yeah Ki gives you Immunity to these haxs

  • Fate manipulation
  • Plot manipulation
  • Reality warping
  • Atom manipulation
  • Time manipulation
  • Time stop
  • Power nullification
  • Death manipulation
  • Probability manipulation
  • Biological manipulation
  • Precog
  • Causality manipulation
  • Existence erasure
  • Soul manipulation
  • Law manipulation
  • Durability negation
  • Conceptual manipulation
  • Age manipulation
  • Disease manipulation
  • Conceptual existence erasure
  • Void manipulation
  • Mind manipulation
  • Anti Magic
  • Matter manipulation
  • Data manipulation
  • Fire manipulation
  • Ice manipulation
  • Magic
  • Radiation manipulation
  • Memory erasure and Memory manipulation
  • Energy manipution
  • Light manipulation
  • Sound manipulation
  • Gravity manipulation
  • Particle manipulation
  • Heat Manipulation
  • Author authority

And so much more

You forgot oxygen manipulation

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#32 Omega7373663  Online

Yeah Ki gives you Immunity to these haxs

  • Fate manipulation
  • Plot manipulation
  • Reality warping
  • Atom manipulation
  • Time manipulation
  • Power nullification
  • Death manipulation
  • Probability manipulation
  • Precog
  • Causality manipulation
  • Soul manipulation
  • Law manipulation
  • Durability negation
  • Conceptual manipulation
  • Author authority

And so much more

No he literally doesn't resist any of those

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#33 DivineMaster  Online

Biological manipulation

Goku got killed by a virus tho

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#34  Edited By Raziel2014

is does not give resistance to Hax, the abilities created in DBZ even Hit time manipulation are all based on Ki, the power source is Ki so if its overpowered it would naturally be broken is not really a hax to start with.

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#35 Ruksos  Online

for the most part yes, but not all hax can be resisted via being stronger/having more ki

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No amount of ki is resisting Conceptual Death hax smh

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@junker134: yea thats what i meant by saing not all hax can be resisted by simply being stronger physically than your opponent

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Serious answer:No

It doesn't give resistence to a hax. That's made up extrapolation with barebones evidence and tons of counter evidence. The only cases Ki has overwhelmed hax was more so because the Hax in question was pitiful.

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#39  Edited By Ruksos  Online

@lmaolmaolmao: since is hax divided in categories of potency, eg "pitiful", "strong"? yes higher ki does grant resistance to a decent amount of hax, so long as the hax is not higher dimensional/abstract or conceptual

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If Akira remembers that Ki is a thing in the story it will block hax, otherwise no.

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Ki is a power source.

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This is a n in universe concept and really shouldn’t apply to other universes UNLESS the same or similar rules apply to that Universe as well.

Ki would also need to prove it can negate the specific version of that hax. If a Dragonball character has no TP resistance feats then they are vulnerable to TP.

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@ruksos said:

@lmaolmaolmao: since is hax divided in categories of potency, eg "pitiful", "strong"? yes higher ki does grant resistance to a decent amount of hax, so long as the hax is not higher dimensional/abstract or conceptual

No it doesn't. There is no general rule in dragon ball that Ki can ignore hax. That's made up extrapolation. By pitiful hax I meant stuff like Hit's hax which works on his tiny pocket dimension and he himself stated it doesn't work on people stronger than him. Merely overpowering his dimension is enough to overthrow it

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#45  Edited By BibleBasher

@ruksos:I mean that Ki is what fuels one character's powers.

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#46  Edited By panda_emperorix

The answer is yes. Ki does give you hax resistance. That's clearly shown if anyone watches the series. Ki in itself is hax due to this. Ofc that depends on the level of the user, but ki does in fact have properties that allow the user to resist or straight up ignore hax.

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#47 CaoCao  Online

This is a n in universe concept and really shouldn’t apply to other universes UNLESS the same or similar rules apply to that Universe as well.

Ki would also need to prove it can negate the specific version of that hax. If a Dragonball character has no TP resistance feats then they are vulnerable to TP.

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The answer is yes. Ki does give you hax resistance. That's clearly shown if anyone watches the series. Ki in itself is hax due to this. Ofc that depends on the level of the user, but ki does in fact have properties that allow the user to resist or straight up ignore hax.

I think it just depends on the hax altogether really. There were cases like where Nappa and Vegeta were outright immune to Shenron's death hax or Chiaotzu's TK and or when Goku resisted Hakai which is just outright hax resistance. Even in Xenoverse God Ki was immune to mind hax but then a guy like Vegito throws it off smh

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They have resistance to hax they showed to resist.

But you can't assume they will resist X hax.

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