Is it possible to create Character stronger than Omnipotent?

@soratoumiga@yasindermann@ovy7@zgtfreak@rampagethefi@chad_duby@caocao@veilerax1@sungsam

Thanos lol

Yes, if you are suggverse

Omnilock?

Did people simply forgot about Yhwach ?

Mr. Joo Joo Man feats.

@zgtfreak said:

This

Suggsversal omnipotent+ characters.

Every heard of Shaggy?

No, but there is nothing that i would call "omnipotent".

@sungsam: @yasindermann: THEY ALREADY HAVE ITS CALL DEATH BATTLE SUPERMAN LOL

Any multiple of an infinite value is still infinite. As a concept, if. somethings is truly omnipotent (all powerful as the word denotes) then there is literally nothing stronger than them, and all things exist because they willed it to do so. The question then becomes, can an omnipotent being create something greater than itself? This creates a paradox. Therefore, omnipotence must be controlled by its own laws, therefore suggesting that there is no being that is omnipotent, but instead a law or procedure that allows omnipotence to be granted, as long as the law is followed.

Your logic falls apart in the face of Suggs.

Suggsverse just suggests that infinity is contained within another infinity ad infinitum. Suggesting things such as levels or layers to infinity is an entirely human concept, showing the fallacy that a human being could even comprehend infinity or omnipotence in the first place.

Different levels of infinity is a well known concept in mathematics, particularly set theory. Some infinite sets are larger (like rational numbers) than other infinite sets (like whole numbers), because whole numbers are a subset of rational numbers.

In fiction everything is possible. Someone can draw fancomics where created by him character( Lord Gary Stu) fight with Christian GOD,TOAA and PRESENCE at this same time and beat them all. Someone can scream "You cannot beat omnipotent characters!" but his scream will not make this fanfic to disappear.

This is magic of fiction : you can make everything "real".

@endless_dark said:

yes an 'unbeatable' character would be stronger than an 'omnipotent' character

Just ask Dr shedlon Cooper he can give you the purrefect answer

@jacthripper: your logic fails when said omnipotent being creates something more powerful yet weaker than itself. Your logic ignores the fact that an omnipotent being can manipulate paradox and logic

@zeromuseg: If an omnipotent gets beaten in fiction, then they were never omnipotent to begin with...

Yes and NOO

You can be omnipotent in your own multiverse/omniverse but not another.

Think HOTU Thanos.

@zgtfreak: Omnipotent Being like TOAA is still nothing more than paper to any Real Life Human so to create Character stronger than Omnipotent you need to make him at the same level with Real Life Human AKA Writer but how the hell i can make paper at the same level with Human

Me, Myself, and I

Yes

How do you think AoS writers came up with Grant Ward?

CW Arrow.

Except that this fails as omnipotence- or all powerful- is meaningless if logic does not exist. If there is no logic, then an omnipotent force does not exist. Logically, everything would fall subordinate to a higher power, but if there is no logic, there is no concept of scaling, and therefore no concept of power and therefore no omnipotence. If there is no logic, there is no such thing as "all" so therefore, omnipotence cannot exist. If there is no logic, infinity doesn't exist. Logic precludes omnipotence, therefore proving that absolute omnipotence is impossible, and instead must have a nature or law to control it.

@kushido: @ljayg: @zgtfreak: Ever heard of transfinity ? No ? You can indeed surpass infinity.

@zgtfreak said:

@zeromuseg: If an omnipotent gets beaten in fiction, then they were never omnipotent to begin with...

Yes, also grass is green and sky is blue.Some other news?

Point is this same, you can make character that beat TOAA with only one finger.This will simply make "omnipotent" TOAA no longer omnipotent.Fan will scream and earth will still rotates around sun.So yes you can make omnipotent character, give him omnipotent feats and later make someone more powerfull (in fiction).

@jacthripper: Powerset of infinity is a greater infinity. If you use infinite power to mean omnipotent then indeed you can surpass it.

A truly All-powerful being can control laws of logic. Debating on anything being impossible for them is meaningless.

Well yeah, just look at Goku for example.

Maybe..........?

It's a meme. I'm fully aware of transfinite infinity. The meme was referring to true absolute omnipotent infinity,

Not unless you want to ignore logic, which most fiction tend to do.

Depending on the definitions of omnipotence applied? Sure.

As a consequence or repercussion of patchy incoherent reasoning? Sure.

As a projected idea to illustrate, parallel certain ideas, up to and including meta components of stories? Sure.

Omnipotence is a projected idea, concept, we have no actual examples in reality to use as basis, and philosophers, theologians, etc argue its definitions and merits all the time. Likewise, many different writers have different levels of understanding and ideas about such topics, so some can potentially approach the idea 'better' than some.