Iron Monger (movie) vs. Green Goblin (movie)

• Iron Monger (Stane in In Mark 1 suit near end of movie)

vs.

• Green Goblin (Spiderman 2000 movie)

Ofcourse the whole armor freezing in the air is not a factor this fight.

1. Round 1: Battle in New York
2. Round 2: Assuming Iron Monger looses, he will get extra prep.
3. Round 3: Since people keep saying Monger stomps, I'm pitting him against New Golbin or Harry osborb in his Goblin suit.

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

Iron Man was at a huge disadvantage.

@Xanni15 said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

Iron Man was at a huge disadvantage.

Ok then what about when Iron Man(stark) first made the Mark 1 armor in Iraq. And What about Harry/New Goblin

Iron Monger wins.

@PurpleCandy said:

@Xanni15 said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

Iron Man was at a huge disadvantage.

Ok then what about when Iron Man(stark) first made the Mark 1 armor in Iraq. And What about Harry/New Goblin

Oh, I wasn't saying that the fight wasn't fair, just that the reason Stark had trouble with Monger in the movie was because he was at a big disadvantage.

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

This is not a stomp.

Remember that missile goblin used at the end of the movie? The one that destroyed a warehouse? I'm sure THAT could put a dent in Monger.

And, remember when Iron Monger could barely lift a car? Goblin held that entire gondola with one hand. Goblin has some advantages in this fight, including agility and intelligence.

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

This is not a stomp.

Remember that missile goblin used at the end of the movie? The one that destroyed a warehouse? I'm sure THAT could put a dent in Monger.

And, remember when Iron Monger could barely lift a car? Goblin held that entire gondola with one hand. Goblin has some advantages in this fight, including agility and intelligence.

But Iron Monger also has advanced targeting systems and much more weaponry. If Goblin takes a shot to the glider it's game over. If it does get in close Goblin still doesn't have a way to get past the armor. That missile probably would do some damage to Iron Monger, but not enough to keep him down.

Iron monger is too tough for what goblin has to offer...not enough firepower

Well I thought that with Green Goblin's speed he would have an edge. Besides if Iron man was supposedly weaker than Iron Monger than I suppose Green Goblin would fare better against him right?

@jsav777 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

This is not a stomp.

Remember that missile goblin used at the end of the movie? The one that destroyed a warehouse? I'm sure THAT could put a dent in Monger.

And, remember when Iron Monger could barely lift a car? Goblin held that entire gondola with one hand. Goblin has some advantages in this fight, including agility and intelligence.

But Iron Monger also has advanced targeting systems and much more weaponry. If Goblin takes a shot to the glider it's game over. If it does get in close Goblin still doesn't have a way to get past the armor. That missile probably would do some damage to Iron Monger, but not enough to keep him down.

If Goblin gets Mongers' targeting system it's over.

Just think about it; if Tony Star was able to jump on Mongers' back and rip out his targeting, think how easy it would be for goblin. Then Monger would have no choice but to expose himself.

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

This is not a stomp.

Remember that missile goblin used at the end of the movie? The one that destroyed a warehouse? I'm sure THAT could put a dent in Monger.

And, remember when Iron Monger could barely lift a car? Goblin held that entire gondola with one hand. Goblin has some advantages in this fight, including agility and intelligence.

But Iron Monger also has advanced targeting systems and much more weaponry. If Goblin takes a shot to the glider it's game over. If it does get in close Goblin still doesn't have a way to get past the armor. That missile probably would do some damage to Iron Monger, but not enough to keep him down.

If Goblin gets Mongers' targeting system it's over.

Just think about it; if Tony Star was able to jump on Mongers' back and rip out his targeting, think how easy it would be for goblin. Then Monger would have no choice but to expose himself.

But Tony is a genius who designed the tech in Stane's suit. Osborn was a geneticist and didn't display any intelligence in technology or robotics and was insane while in Goblin mode.

Goblin really only has the one strategy of taking out the systems to win. Even if he did know about them, which he wouldn't, he only has one way to win. Iron Monger could shoot heat seekers to take out the glider, pin him down with a mini gun, or use any other weapons in his arsenal. Iron Monger has options and options usually equal wins.

@jsav777 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

Iron Monger take it easily. Goblin has no way to hurt him. Pumpkin Bombs and Razorbats aren't going to do anything to his armor. If Iron Man had trouble beating him, Goblin has no chance

This is not a stomp.

Remember that missile goblin used at the end of the movie? The one that destroyed a warehouse? I'm sure THAT could put a dent in Monger.

And, remember when Iron Monger could barely lift a car? Goblin held that entire gondola with one hand. Goblin has some advantages in this fight, including agility and intelligence.

But Iron Monger also has advanced targeting systems and much more weaponry. If Goblin takes a shot to the glider it's game over. If it does get in close Goblin still doesn't have a way to get past the armor. That missile probably would do some damage to Iron Monger, but not enough to keep him down.

If Goblin gets Mongers' targeting system it's over.

Just think about it; if Tony Star was able to jump on Mongers' back and rip out his targeting, think how easy it would be for goblin. Then Monger would have no choice but to expose himself.

But Tony is a genius who designed the tech in Stane's suit. Osborn was a geneticist and didn't display any intelligence in technology or robotics and was insane while in Goblin mode.

Goblin really only has the one strategy of taking out the systems to win. Even if he did know about them, which he wouldn't, he only has one way to win. Iron Monger could shoot heat seekers to take out the glider, pin him down with a mini gun, or use any other weapons in his arsenal. Iron Monger has options and options usually equal wins.

Give me objective reasons why Mongers weapons are better than the Goblins. Because, if anything, the Goblins fire power was even greater than Iron Mongers. The very first thing Goblin did in the movie, was to destroy a dude in a bulky metal suit. And don't bother saying that the metal suit Goblin destroyed was less advanced then Mongers, because we don't know that.

Based on feats, Monger hasn't even done anything that impressive. He barely lifts a car, destroys a bus with the biggest missile he had, and was able to fly in a straight line. Goblin has bunker busting feats, vaporizing feats, agility feats waaay better than Monger, and has shown himself to be quite a bit stronger physically.

I can see Goblin just jumping on his back and pulling out those targeting sensors. While not as smart as Stark, Norman is still the intellectual superior of Stane. And, if you remember, Spider Man pulled a very similar trick on the Goblin himself. So Goblin would have the experience to take a leaf out of Spidey's book for this fight.

As for gunfire, Stane isn't that great of a shot and Goblin presents a very difficult target. It's far more likely that Goblin will hit Monger with one of his bunker busters, before he gets shot. So I say again:

This is not a stomp.

Goblin would probably take it.

If Iron Man wasn't running on a poor replacement battery - the Iron Monger fight would have been a lot easier for him to deal with. Regardless - the Iron Monger is this durable package that I'm struggling to see the Goblin's usual tricks from the film having any meaningful effect on said armor - while Obediah has a good chance at blowing him out of the sky.

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

@jeanroygrant said:

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

Again where is the basis for saying that Iron Monger is stronger? Because he's bigger? Because he has a metal suit? Goblin has better feats pure and simple.

@isaac_clarke said:

If Iron Man wasn't running on a poor replacement battery - the Iron Monger fight would have been a lot easier for him to deal with. Regardless - the Iron Monger is this durable package that I'm struggling to see the Goblin's usual tricks from the film having any meaningful effect on said armor - while Obediah has a good chance at blowing him out of the sky.

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@venomsapprentice said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

Again where is the basis for saying that Iron Monger is stronger? Because he's bigger? Because he has a metal suit? Goblin has better feats pure and simple.

GG seemed inconsistent at times in the movie, like when the brick wall falls on him and he gets scared. First, he should have been able to hold it up easily. Second, that shouldn't have even dazed him.

Obadiah stomps.

Added extra round

@venomsapprentice said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

Again where is the basis for saying that Iron Monger is stronger? Because he's bigger? Because he has a metal suit? Goblin has better feats pure and simple.

Agreed

@Xanni15 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

Again where is the basis for saying that Iron Monger is stronger? Because he's bigger? Because he has a metal suit? Goblin has better feats pure and simple.

GG seemed inconsistent at times in the movie, like when the brick wall falls on him and he gets scared. First, he should have been able to hold it up easily. Second, that shouldn't have even dazed him.

And? He held a fully loaded gondola with one hand. Monger needed 2 just to lift a car. I don't see Iron Monger:

A. Hitting Goblin or, B. Withstanding Goblins bunker busters.

@venomsapprentice said:

@Xanni15 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@goodguy24 said:

IronMonger is alot stronger and bigger... He would crush Green Goblin 10/10

Again where is the basis for saying that Iron Monger is stronger? Because he's bigger? Because he has a metal suit? Goblin has better feats pure and simple.

GG seemed inconsistent at times in the movie, like when the brick wall falls on him and he gets scared. First, he should have been able to hold it up easily. Second, that shouldn't have even dazed him.

And? He held a fully loaded gondola with one hand. Monger needed 2 just to lift a car. I don't see Iron Monger:

A. Hitting Goblin or, B. Withstanding Goblins bunker busters.

And nothing. I never meant it as an argument against GG, just pointing out what I thought seemed weird.

green gobiln easy fastest,smarter,stronger,and better weapons

Goblin. Faster and more agile than the Iron Monger. All he really has to do is rain bombs on him for the entire fight.

@imbackwimps said:

green gobiln easy fastest,smarter,stronger,and better weapons

Nope.

Iron Monger is pretty much Stark Tech. Everyone knows that Stark Tech >>>>>>>>>> OSCORP

Also, Iron Monger was able to withstand a Uni Beam from Iron Man. Granted that it was an unfair fight, but Monger displayed better durability feats.

It doesn't matter if the GG is faster in flight. Monger has Stark-Tech Targeting systems. His weapons will eventually tag him, and GG has no real defense against any of that.

He isn't stronger either. Monger threw a motorcycle like it was a ragdoll. Seriously. Lifted an SUV. Broke though several feat of concrete (when he was getting out from the underground lab).

I'll grand GG being smarter, but it isn't any good when he's pretty psychotic.

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Iron Monger wins.

@Tony_Shark said:

@imbackwimps said:

green gobiln easy fastest,smarter,stronger,and better weapons

Nope.

Iron Monger is pretty much Stark Tech. Everyone knows that Stark Tech >>>>>>>>>> OSCORP

Also, Iron Monger was able to withstand a Uni Beam from Iron Man. Granted that it was an unfair fight, but Monger displayed better durability feats.

It doesn't matter if the GG is faster in flight. Monger has Stark-Tech Targeting systems. His weapons will eventually tag him, and GG has no real defense against any of that.

He isn't stronger either. Monger threw a motorcycle like it was a ragdoll. Seriously. Lifted an SUV. Broke though several feat of concrete (when he was getting out from the underground lab).

I'll grand GG being smarter, but it isn't any good when he's pretty psychotic.

if you remember GG destroy a prototype army robot in secs

@imbackwimps said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@imbackwimps said:

green gobiln easy fastest,smarter,stronger,and better weapons

Nope.

Iron Monger is pretty much Stark Tech. Everyone knows that Stark Tech >>>>>>>>>> OSCORP

Also, Iron Monger was able to withstand a Uni Beam from Iron Man. Granted that it was an unfair fight, but Monger displayed better durability feats.

It doesn't matter if the GG is faster in flight. Monger has Stark-Tech Targeting systems. His weapons will eventually tag him, and GG has no real defense against any of that.

He isn't stronger either. Monger threw a motorcycle like it was a ragdoll. Seriously. Lifted an SUV. Broke though several feat of concrete (when he was getting out from the underground lab).

I'll grand GG being smarter, but it isn't any good when he's pretty psychotic.

if you remember GG destroy a prototype army robot in secs

In the Spider-Man movie? When? lol

iron monger. cuz you know he has ROCKETS!

@Tony_Shark said:

@imbackwimps said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@imbackwimps said:

green gobiln easy fastest,smarter,stronger,and better weapons

Nope.

Iron Monger is pretty much Stark Tech. Everyone knows that Stark Tech >>>>>>>>>> OSCORP

Also, Iron Monger was able to withstand a Uni Beam from Iron Man. Granted that it was an unfair fight, but Monger displayed better durability feats.

It doesn't matter if the GG is faster in flight. Monger has Stark-Tech Targeting systems. His weapons will eventually tag him, and GG has no real defense against any of that.

He isn't stronger either. Monger threw a motorcycle like it was a ragdoll. Seriously. Lifted an SUV. Broke though several feat of concrete (when he was getting out from the underground lab).

I'll grand GG being smarter, but it isn't any good when he's pretty psychotic.

if you remember GG destroy a prototype army robot in secs

In the Spider-Man movie? When? lol

When he got his revenge on the other company that got the army contract. Blew up the Mecha suit than Blew up a bunker.

I think it was in the deleted scenes, but Iron Monger was hit by a speeding Audi R8 into an 18 wheeler that exploded and walked out no problem. He also took a straight shoot from a unibeam. I don't see what Goblin has that can deal with that kind of durability.

@jsav777 said:

I think it was in the deleted scenes, but Iron Monger was hit by a speeding Audi R8 into an 18 wheeler that exploded and walked out no problem. He also took a straight shoot from a unibeam. I don't see what Goblin has that can deal with that kind of durability.

Which is why Goblin would just go for the targeting sensors.

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

I think it was in the deleted scenes, but Iron Monger was hit by a speeding Audi R8 into an 18 wheeler that exploded and walked out no problem. He also took a straight shoot from a unibeam. I don't see what Goblin has that can deal with that kind of durability.

Which is why Goblin would just go for the targeting sensors.

How would he know where they are? Stark Tech is on a whole other level than any tech he's seen. He didn't display any real knowledge of tech in the movie whatsoever. For Goblin to win, he'd need prior knowledge of the suit. That's how Tony knew what to do. For Stane to win, he just has to take out the glider, which could be done with a heat-seeker or mini-gun easily.

@jsav777 said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@jsav777 said:

I think it was in the deleted scenes, but Iron Monger was hit by a speeding Audi R8 into an 18 wheeler that exploded and walked out no problem. He also took a straight shoot from a unibeam. I don't see what Goblin has that can deal with that kind of durability.

Which is why Goblin would just go for the targeting sensors.

How would he know where they are? Stark Tech is on a whole other level than any tech he's seen. He didn't display any real knowledge of tech in the movie whatsoever. For Goblin to win, he'd need prior knowledge of the suit. That's how Tony knew what to do. For Stane to win, he just has to take out the glider, which could be done with a heat-seeker or mini-gun easily.

Maybe.

But other then a deleted scene, what makes you think that Monger could take those bunker busters?

If you want to be technical, no weapon in either IM movie has approached that kind of power.

Except, maybe the Jericho missile. Which Monger does not have.

If you want to be down right pithy, the best showing for the unibeam, other than knocking back monger, was blowing up a watermelon! Nothing that suggests this level of power.

IronMonger

@TERMINATORXX said:

IronMonger

^^^ look up dude.

Missile+Iron Monger=Dead Iron Monger

@venomsapprentice said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

IronMonger

^^^ look up dude.

Missile+Iron Monger=Dead Iron Monger

What suggest that a Missle can harm IronMonger? Ironman was able to tank a missle with very little damage and Ironmongers far more durable and stronger than Ironman, heck he even ripped Ironmans armor apart with ease.... since Ironman can tank missles, you cant convince me that Ironmonger cant.

@Tony_Shark said:

In the Spider-Man movie? When? lol

It was Osborn's first act as the Green Goblin; he attacked his competitor's testing facilities, where he destroyed their exosuit prototype and their bunker.

@TERMINATORXX said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

IronMonger

^^^ look up dude.

Missile+Iron Monger=Dead Iron Monger

What suggest that a Missle can harm IronMonger? Ironman was able to tank a missle with very little damage and Ironmongers far more durable and stronger than Ironman, heck he even ripped Ironmans armor apart with ease.... since Ironman can tank missles, you cant convince me that Ironmonger cant.

While I agree that Iron Monger wins, Iron Man was at a HUGE disadvantage with his power levels.

Iron Monger wins.

@TERMINATORXX said:

@venomsapprentice said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

IronMonger

^^^ look up dude.

Missile+Iron Monger=Dead Iron Monger

What suggest that a Missle can harm IronMonger? Ironman was able to tank a missle with very little damage and Ironmongers far more durable and stronger than Ironman, heck he even ripped Ironmans armor apart with ease.... since Ironman can tank missles, you cant convince me that Ironmonger cant.

I think your confused.He took a tank shell. Not a missile. The closest he came to taking a missile was when that f 22 fired one. As you can see below, Iron Man was clearly worried about this missile. And it didn't even have the power of one of Green Goblin's missiles. The other time IM was hit by a missile, it was a shoulder mounted one from Monger, with none too impressive fire power.

Nothing in these movies suggests that Monger could withstand what Goblin has.