@noone301994: Alex got all of his powers? In that case
Round 1: Mercer stomps
Round 2: Mercer pwns
Round 3: Mercer 5.5/10
Wow I forgot I even made this thread. Good thing you have that good ol' biased hatred for Iron Man huh? Otherwise this thread would have probably never been bumped. Anyway,
Round 1: Although it pains me to say it, you are probably right, Iron Man loses here. With morals on (even with them off) Tony would lose due to the fact that he doesn't quite know what he's going up against and wouldn't have the firepower to keep Mercer down permanently. Even if Tony has the flight advantage eventually Mercer would just leap up to Iron Man and swat him down to ground level and work on him from there with tank busting attacks, however, Tony would not just let this happen. It would take awhile for this fight to end because of Iron Man's flight speed and his ability to spam powerful weapons. 8/10 in Mercer's favor and 2/10 in it being a stalemate (if Tony stayed in the air but would still count as wins for Mercer).
Round 2: I don't think Mercer pwns here... Classic Iron Man has a lot of weapons and gadgets at his disposal that movie Iron Man does not and I think they would be very useful here.
Mercer would be severely confused and would be easily susceptible to attack if he lunged at an illusion. He would also be extremely disoriented if Tony blared sonics in his ears while fighting illusions (most would get KO'd by Tony's sonics alone but I'll give Mercer the benefit of the doubt that it wouldn't knock him out). After enduring both of those attacks Mercer would be extremely open for either strong punches (that have downed Hulk) or repulsor rays (that have easily melted steel). With his gadgets he would be easily open for attack and would either get knocked out with his tremendous strength or he would vaporize him.
7/10 Iron Man wins.
Round 3: Sorry, but you are very wrong about Mercer's performance here. 5.5? Really? Iron Man curbstomps 10/10 and here's why:
Iron Man has superior Durability, Strength, Firepower, Speed, and he also has Shields, Illusions, Sonics, Stealth etc ( I could go on for a much longer time since he has so many weapons at his disposal but he wouldn't need all of them).
Proof:
Durability
Strength
Firepower
Speed
I know you hate Iron Man but at least respect him.
@noone301994: Alex got all of his powers? In that case
Round 1: Mercer stomps
Round 2: Mercer pwns
Round 3: Mercer 5.5/10
Wow I forgot I even made this thread. Good thing you have that good ol' biased hatred for Iron Man huh? Otherwise this thread would have probably never been bumped. Anyway,
Round 1: Although it pains me to say it, you are probably right, Iron Man loses here. With morals on (even with them off) Tony would lose due to the fact that he doesn't quite know what he's going up against and wouldn't have the firepower to keep Mercer down permanently. Even if Tony has the flight advantage eventually Mercer would just leap up to Iron Man and swat him down to ground level and work on him from there with tank busting attacks, however, Tony would not just let this happen. It would take awhile for this fight to end because of Iron Man's flight speed and his ability to spam powerful weapons. 8/10 in Mercer's favor and 2/10 in it being a stalemate (if Tony stayed in the air but would still count as wins for Mercer).
Round 2: I don't think Mercer pwns here... Classic Iron Man has a lot of weapons and gadgets at his disposal that movie Iron Man does not and I think they would be very useful here.
Mercer would be severely confused and would be easily susceptible to attack if he lunged at an illusion. He would also be extremely disoriented if Tony blared sonics in his ears while fighting illusions (most would get KO'd by Tony's sonics alone but I'll give Mercer the benefit of the doubt that it wouldn't knock him out). After enduring both of those attacks Mercer would be extremely open for either strong punches (that have downed Hulk) or repulsor rays (that have easily melted steel). With his gadgets he would be easily open for attack and would either get knocked out with his tremendous strength or he would vaporize him.
7/10 Iron Man wins.
Round 3: Sorry, but you are very wrong about Mercer's performance here. 5.5? Really? Iron Man curbstomps 10/10 and here's why:
Iron Man has superior Durability, Strength, Firepower, Speed, and he also has Shields, Illusions, Sonics, Stealth etc ( I could go on for a much longer time since he has so many weapons at his disposal but he wouldn't need all of them).
Proof:
Durability
Strength
Firepower
Speed
I know you hate Iron Man but at least respect him.
As for round 3 i ment to say Ironman 5.5/10 instead :).
But otherwise for round 1 and 2 i believe the Hammerfists would be to much blunt force and would damage his brain or destroy the suit.
Round 1: Alex 8.5/10
Round 2: Alex 7/10
Round 3: Extremis 5.5/10
I actually don't really HATE Iron Man but i just think he is very overrated at the times. He is overall a cool Character
I made this thread 8 months ago. I didn't know as much about Iron Man and Alex Mercer as I do now and I was a novice. I actually thought that the extremis, classic armor, and movie armors were actually somewhat even with Mercer's abilities at the time. 8 months later, based on what I have learned since then, I will admit, Tony loses 1, and wins the rest.
At least we can agree that he's a cool character and that he wins round 3 :P
One thing that we do disagree on is the fact that classic Iron Man's suit wouldn't be able to tank hits from Mercer. The suit is more durable than you think.
I do agree that the Marvel Cinematic universe version of Iron Man (Earth - 199999) would lose against Alex.
One thing that really gets me though is the fact that you think Tony would barely win round 3... With morals off you do realize Tony would just melt him with his uni-beam right?
I made this thread 8 months ago. I didn't know as much about Iron Man and Alex Mercer as I do now and I was a novice. I actually thought that the extremis, classic armor, and movie armors were actually somewhat even with Mercer's abilities at the time. 8 months later, based on what I have learned since then, I will admit, Tony loses 1, and wins the rest.
At least we can agree that he's a cool character and that he wins round 3 :P
One thing that we do disagree on is the fact that classic Iron Man's suit wouldn't be able to tank hits from Mercer. The suit is more durable than you think.
I do agree that the Marvel Cinematic universe version of Iron Man (Earth - 199999) would lose against Alex.
One thing that really gets me though is the fact that you think Tony would barely win round 3... With morals off you do realize Tony would just melt him with his uni-beam right?
People like Iron Fist have dodged the uni beam before and maybe Alex could do the same. (Not sure though)
Maybe he can't kill Iron man with hammerfists but they should damage his armor abit atleast. They can destroy tanks with a couple of hits, and i believe Iron man's suit is made of Carbon Fibers which should not be so MUCH more durable than normal Metal so Iron-man had a bit PIS when he fought Thor because Mjolnir would have crack his suit down.
Alex has regenerated from being nuked before too so if there is animals nearby he could consume them in seconds and retain his normal form.
You seem to know your stuff about Iron Man.. Keep up :)
Yeah that's true but Iron Fist has microsecond reaction time and well.. Mercer doesn't. Plus Iron Man could just go invisible or use illusions to sneak up on Mercer and hit him with it; he has many options (as you can see based on the scans).
I think his armor was made of gold titanium alloy with his classic suit.. I'm not entirely sure.. But anyway, he has tanked hits from Namor, Hulk, Wonder Man, Thor (obviously) etc. So I'm not exactly sure if it's PIS... He consistently tanks hits from powerhouses that can lift 100 tons so I don't think Mercer's hammer fists would be a problem.
Especially if his fists can't do this in one hit:
If Mercer gets vaporized into a pool of blood it counts as a KO or death in my opinion. Iron Man took a nuke without so much as a scratch in his armor.
Thanks, I try :)
Yeah that's true but Iron Fist has microsecond reaction time and well.. Mercer doesn't. Plus Iron Man could just go invisible or use illusions to sneak up on Mercer and hit him with it; he has many options (as you can see based on the scans).
I think his armor was made of gold titanium alloy with his classic suit.. I'm not entirely sure.. But anyway, he has tanked hits from Namor, Hulk, Wonder Man, Thor (obviously) etc. So I'm not exactly sure if it's PIS... He consistently tanks hits from powerhouses that can lift 100 tons so I don't think Mercer's hammer fists would be a problem.
Especially if his fists can't do this in one hit:
If Mercer gets vaporized into a pool of blood it counts as a KO or death in my opinion. Iron Man took a nuke without so much as a scratch in his armor.
Thanks, I try :)
Well the Hammer fists is suppose to greatly increase his striking power. I bet if Alex had his armor power on he could tanked that nuke probably without getting burned to a skeleton.
This is just a minor showing what the Hammer fists is capable off. Much area effect and brutal strikes.
Even if blunt won't do it he got lots of other powers like Blade, Claws, Whipfist (He can use it like 100 ft away) and his shield would take the repulsor beams i guess
Okay then what about his repulsors? Could his shield armor protect from beams that could melt steel? I know you said he's fast but Tony could easily pick up on this and compensate by creating illusions or blasting sonic attacks. He used illusions on Iron Fist and this made it easier for him to distract and hit him.
@leonkarlen123 said:
Sorry i forgot that it was only Heller who could create these shockwaves.
But here are his Devastator attacks ( Some of his most powerful ones ) who could probably damage the suit.
Their strength should be equal, around 60-80 tons but if Mercer use his muscle arms he becomes stronger.
Their combat speed i give advantage to Mercer since he fight's and dodge big and fast creatures everyday and don't wear such an heavy armor that slows him down.
Travel speed goes to Iron Man but it's not useful in here.
Durability go to Iron Man but he doesn't posses an healing factor like Mercer does.
Well Iron Man got advanced weapon's but Alex got powers.. Dunno about this one..
Most physical advantages goes to Alex Mercer for sure and Iron man's beam could be a problem.. It depends IF the shield can take a Repulsor beam which i believe it can and maybe Alex can dodge the beam in worst cases because he has shown great speed.
Which weapons does Extremis really posses besides heat? He will have to catch him to burn him.
Oh yeah that's right. Wasn't it a map pack or add-on for the second game?
Those are impressive but again you have to remember that Iron Man has tanked hits without any damage from 100 tonners like Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Wonder Man, etc. Durability feats like that are above the destructive feats of his devastator attacks. The best that those could damage were tanks and it's obvious that Iron Man has superior durability to that of a tank. Basically, the feats of the devastator attacks aren't good enough.
By 'their' I hope you mean Heller and Mercer's... Iron Man's strength is in the 100 ton range so his and Mercer's strength are not equal. It is confirmed based on feats and handbook specs. I can post scans if you want.
Mercer is kind of fast but he isn't nearly as fast as Iron Man when it comes to combat and reaction speed. Even the classic armor puts Mercer's speed to shame. Iron Man's armor actually isn't that heavy by the way. Iron Man has constantly shown to be fast enough to blur and become undetectable by human and superhuman eyes:
Extremis Reaction/Combat Speed:
Classic Iron Man Reaction/Combat speed:
Travel speed actually does matter if you think about it. If Iron Man speed blitzes him at mach speeds he could hit Mercer pretty hard and continue an endless assault (since Mercer can't fly and evade the attacks) like he did here against Hulk:
You are correct about Mercer having a superior healing factor, however, extremis DOES have a healing factor but its just not as good as Mercer's. If Mercer can't pierce Stark's armor and has inferior durability then how does he even have a chance?
Advantages for physicals go to Mercer for sure? Are you serious? Iron Man has a durability, strength, speed, flight, intelligence, destructive capability, versatility, and tactical advantages. The only thing Mercer has going for him is his healing factor. Iron Man has targeting computers and his repulsor beams that move much fast than Mercer has shown to be. His hands will easily be able to keep up with Mercer's speed.
Iron Man has tons of other weapons in his arsenal. He has sonic attacks, flamethrowers, ice gauntlets, gas attacks (capable of shutting down the lungs), energy blades, pulse bolts, SPIN tech nanobots (capable of suppressing ones powers and then knocking them out), and powerful tasers.
With morals off there are so many powerful weapons that he can spam while either flying at a safe distance, while invisible, or while Mercer is chasing illusions.
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