Iron Man (IW) vs. Ultron (AOU)

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Iron Man in his Bleeding Edge armor vs. Ultron with Vibranium armor

A fight between the strongest MCU versions of the characters.

Both are willing to go all out to win, but are still in character.

10 ft. apart

Location: Stark Tower

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Ultron eventually.

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Ultron still wins, but in a really long fight.

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Tough one Stark in this was vastly superior to his previous model, he has the Hax whereas Ultron has the sheer invulnerability, could make a case for either.

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Leaning towards Stark.

Ultrons power set is not as versatile as Tonys (who kind of has an answer for anything now) and his vibranium suit eventually cave.

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Iron Man will get tired before Ultron

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Ultron

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Ultron gets manhandled.

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Ultron wrecks.

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I'm not sure stark can actually beat ultron

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I am going to side with IW Iron Man, the same guy who was beating Thanos for a time, who in turn was blitzing the Hulk. Ultron also has no way to put Iron Man down as he tanked multi city block punches from Cull Obsidian with ease.

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Ultron is doing nowhere near as much damage as Cull or that massive chunk of Titans moon

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Stark is way more versatile. He stomps

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Ultron or stalemate unless Iron Man's swords can cut him. .

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Stark stomps tbh...

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Ultron dies

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Bleeding Edge Suit and Tony stomps easily.

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And how does Iron Man win?

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Stark, easily

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#24 Noone1996  Online

Ultron wins in a hard, but long and drawn out fight. Iron Man is way more durable than he is, but this is the same guy that manhandled Thor. Literally grabbed him and beat the shit out of him and after the fighting is over you still see Thor with bruises, cuts, and blemishes on his face at the Avengers facility as he's shown walking with Stark and Rogers. I think it'd take awhile, but punches that can damage Thor like that are going to eventually take out Tony's armor. As for Tony's offensive output, it's nowhere near what's needed to take down vibranium. Even with Vision, Thor, and Iron Man blasting him at once for several seconds, followed up by a punch from Hulk, he was still functional (although highly damaged) and able to move around and wreak havoc on Sokovia.

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@webinyoureye11: How is Tony harming him?

Thanos is more durable than him, and tony drew blood with a energy strike. His sword should be able to pierce ultron.

Plus he could always super heat him and then freeze him. kinda like what happened to the 2005 dr doom

plus, ultron has no way to harm tony. His shield blocked a strike from cull and a blast by the power stone. He even tanked a punch with the power stone.

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#26  Edited By Greysentinel365

@webinyoureye11:

Thanos is more durable than him

Based on?

tony drew blood with a energy strike.

Ultron was undamaged after a strike from Mjolnir.

His sword should be able to pierce ultron.

His sword is featless.

Plus he could always super heat him and then freeze him. kinda like what happened to the 2005 dr doom

Yeah that would have been handy when trying to retrain the movement of a mad titan right? In character Tony clearly doesn't use that in combat

plus, ultron has no way to harm tony.

Ultron could beat the crap out of Thor. Visibly wounding him. His gravity attacks and repulsors will eventually wear out Tony's supply on nanites.

His shield blocked a strike from cull

And? Cap's shield could block Ultrons attacks. He lost eventually cause he can't harm him. Just like Tony can't.

and a blast by the power stone. He even tanked a punch with the power stone.

So he took attacks that could K.O a peak human unharmed? Okay. BTW he didn't tank a punch from the power stone. It was a point blank blast. And it destroyed half his suit.

Those blasts are unquantifiable to the variance in the power output of the stone.

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#27  Edited By webinyoureye11

@webinyoureye11:

Thanos is more durable than him

Based on?

tony drew blood with a energy strike.

Ultron was undamaged after a strike from Mjolnir.

His sword should be able to pierce ultron.

His sword is featless.

Plus he could always super heat him and then freeze him. kinda like what happened to the 2005 dr doom

Yeah that would have been handy when trying to retrain the movement of a mad titan right? In character Tony clearly doesn't use that in combat

plus, ultron has no way to harm tony.

Ultron could beat the crap out of Thor. Visibly wounding him. His gravity attacks and repulsors will eventually wear out Tony's supply on nanites.

His shield blocked a strike from cull

And? Cap's shield could block Ultrons attacks. He lost eventually cause he can't harm him. Just like Tony can't.

and a blast by the power stone. He even tanked a punch with the power stone.

So he took attacks that could K.O a peak human unharmed? Okay. BTW he didn't tank a punch from the power stone. It was a point blank blast. And it destroyed half his suit.

Those blasts are unquantifiable to the variance in the power output of the stone.

All I see is lowballing and I'm not gonna entertain it

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@webinyoureye11: How is it lowballing?

Thanos uses the power stone to destroy a portion of a moon and chucks it at everyone at hypersonic speeds, can punch hard enough to stun the hulk and you are suggesting that he used the power stone at the same levels he used on the street levelers.

Not to mention you dismissed a win scenario on the basis that he didnt freeze thanos.... dudes not even made of metal, so he wouldn't harden like doom or ultron in the first place

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@webinyoureye11:

Thanos uses the power stone to destroy a portion of a moon and chucks it at everyone at hypersonic speeds,

And he also barely harms street levels with it as well. Prove he was using it to that level of power. Then we can talk. Until then the intensity of the blast in unquantifiable. That's not lowballing. It's being objective about what was presented in the movie.

can punch hard enough to stun the hulk and you are suggesting that he used the power stone at the same levels he used on the street levelers.

Yes. He can punch hard enough to stun the Hulk. And Ultron can punch hard enough to stun and harm Thor. Also Thanos' punches were demolishing Tony's suit.

Again. Prove what level he was using it at. This is not lowballing. I'm asking for objective evidence to back your claim that beam he used on Tony was that powerful.

Not to mention you dismissed a win scenario on the basis that he didnt freeze thanos.... dudes not even made of metal, so he wouldn't harden like doom or ultron in the first place

Right. Thanos is made of flesh. So when he's frozen and his cell walls expand he just outright die or his arm will shatter and we can skip the heating step entirely.

But Tony doesn't do that. It's not in character for him to try that clearly.

Ultron has taken hits from Mjolnir with no damage and hits from Hulk while highly damaged. That's a fact. Thanos doesn't have durability feats to match that.

It took a prolonged mind gem blast from Vision and a lightning attack from Thor to melt his armour down. Thor's lightning could one-shot through Chitauri Leviathans armour that Tony would lose power before cutting through.

In that (as I dub it) "Tri-Beam of Justice" Tony wasn't doing anything compared to the power Vision and Thor were bringing to bear. So with that I circle back to my first, legitimate question: How is Tony even harming Ultron?

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@greysentinel365: I just have to say, the same argument you are using: "Prove he was using it to that level of power" could be used for every single fight in any movie or any scene or any panel. It's illogical for a character to use less than their best when fighting a high level opponent unless the panel or movie itself shows they are using less than their best. It would be like arguing that Superman high Nam-Ek hard enough to send him through two train cars and make one explode but yet for some reason he was hitting Doomsday with less power. Why would he? Same can be said for your arguments. Unless you can show some actual reason supported by the movie, there is absolutely no reason to assume a character was using a less powerful attack on a high level opponent.

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@webinyoureye11:

Thanos uses the power stone to destroy a portion of a moon and chucks it at everyone at hypersonic speeds,

And he also barely harms street levels with it as well. Prove he was using it to that level of power. Then we can talk. Until then the intensity of the blast in unquantifiable. That's not lowballing. It's being objective about what was presented in the movie.

can punch hard enough to stun the hulk and you are suggesting that he used the power stone at the same levels he used on the street levelers.

Yes. He can punch hard enough to stun the Hulk. And Ultron can punch hard enough to stun and harm Thor. Also Thanos' punches were demolishing Tony's suit.

Again. Prove what level he was using it at. This is not lowballing. I'm asking for objective evidence to back your claim that beam he used on Tony was that powerful.

Not to mention you dismissed a win scenario on the basis that he didnt freeze thanos.... dudes not even made of metal, so he wouldn't harden like doom or ultron in the first place

Right. Thanos is made of flesh. So when he's frozen and his cell walls expand he just outright die or his arm will shatter and we can skip the heating step entirely.

But Tony doesn't do that. It's not in character for him to try that clearly.

Ultron has taken hits from Mjolnir with no damage and hits from Hulk while highly damaged. That's a fact. Thanos doesn't have durability feats to match that.

It took a prolonged mind gem blast from Vision and a lightning attack from Thor to melt his armour down. Thor's lightning could one-shot through Chitauri Leviathans armour that Tony would lose power before cutting through.

In that (as I dub it) "Tri-Beam of Justice" Tony wasn't doing anything compared to the power Vision and Thor were bringing to bear. So with that I circle back to my first, legitimate question: How is Tony even harming Ultron?

Tony withstood this

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He was fine after this. And as you said, thanos was breaking the armor with his bare hands. So if he can use brute force, there's no reason to use any less force when he's using the power stone.

just drop it man, there is no reason to think ice would work on thanos. Thor could survive space, thanos would logically be able to break ice before it was able to slow him down.

The mark 6 took 2 hits from mjolnir in the avengers. The hulkbuster took hits from the hulk, the mark 50 is much more advanced and powerful than those 2.

and lol at thanos can't match it. Thanos ate up multiple punches from a better hulk to the face for fun. he was tanking vibranium blades, which as shown in civil war can damage vibranium

I cant help you if you think this armor is even comparable to previous armors. It would stomp any previous armor easily.

Ultron has no durability feats to be honest other than that energy one that suggests he's better than thanos. and tony doesn't need to rely solely on repulsors

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#33  Edited By Greysentinel365

@webinyoureye11:

He was fine after this.

He was sent through two thin walls and into a tree. It wasn't even a blunt force impact he was carried through it.

Revolutionary.

there's no reason to use any less force when he's using the power stone.

But to what level?

just drop it man, there is no reason to think ice would work on thanos.

There's also no reason to think it would work on Ultron.

The mark 6 took 2 hits from mjolnir in the avengers. The hulkbuster took hits from the hulk, the mark 50 is much more advanced and powerful than those 2.

So was the civil war suit.

Thanos ate up multiple punches from a better hulk to the face for fun.

No he had the crap beaten out of him for a bit by the hulk. Also proof he's gotten stronger?

he was tanking vibranium blades, which as shown in civil war can damage vibranium

Lol Thanos has never tanked vibranium blades. The only thing I can think of that you could be referring to are Caps shields? Which had trouble piercing Outriders.

I cant help you if you think this armor is even comparable to previous armors. It would stomp any previous armor easily.

Most of Tony's armours can theoretically stomp the rest via lasers, spam missiles etc etc. It's physicals aren't that much better. It's repulsors are quite powerful but nothing extreme. It's got a blade with no showings.

Ultron has no durability feats to be honest other than that energy one that suggests he's better than thanos.

Except he does. And really the energy one is all he needs.

and tony doesn't need to rely solely on repulsors

It's just that in-character he usually does

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@greysentinel365:

lol, I proved thanos is more durable than Ultron. Ultron has never withstood multiple punches from hulk for fun. Ultron has never no sold vibranium. Ultron fought a much weaker Thor who was also stalling for time. thanos wrecked Thor and had him dead to rights. so the fact that tony hurt him is definitIve proof of a boost as well as proof he can damage Ultron

and not one outrider was tanking vibranium weapons. Cap was one shoting them before he got overwhelmed

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#35  Edited By Greysentinel365

@webinyoureye11:

lol, I proved thanos is more durable than Ultron.

Where?

Ultron has never withstood multiple punches from hulk for fun.

He has withstood them when half melted though and was fine afterwards. Also Thanos didn't take Hulks hits for fun. That isn't indicated anywhere. Ebony on tells Cull to back off so Thanos can have fun beating him after the fact.

Ultron has never no sold vibranium.

Unless you wish to start the assertion that the clothes of the people of Wakanda can tank hits from Thor's hammer then you have to realise that, like all other weapons, Vibranium's durability varies depending on how it's forged and what for. All Thanos showed is that he can tank Steve's attacks. So could the abysmal CW armour.

Ultron fought a much weaker Thor who was also stalling for time.

Thor wasn't weaker. His boost in Ragnorak only pertains to his lightning powers. It didn't boost his physicals in any way.

And there's no proof he was stalling until the last second. Stalling for what? If anything he'd be fighting at his hardest because the core is right there

thanos wrecked Thor and had him dead to rights.

In a fight offscreen. For all we know he just power gemmed Thor instantly and there was no fight at all.

and not one outrider was tanking vibranium weapons. Cap was one shoting them before he got overwhelmed

Please. He was knocking them back sure. But at one point Steve was screaming with effort just to pierce through one of them with just the tip of the shield.

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Thanos casually plucked the mind gem from Vision without too much effort. Vision's body is made out of vibranium.

It took Thanos 5-6 shots to totally shatter the bleeding edge.

Stark is better in almost everything but beating Vibranium Ultron is hard AF.

So, Stark humiliates Ultron but he won't go down for a long time.

Also, New York would be utterly damaged.

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Ultron wins tony can’t really damage him

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#40  Edited By Greysentinel365

Ultron after a long fight to deplete Tony’s nanobots.

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Wow, opinions are all over the place...but Iron Man and Ultron can't both stomp...

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Tony can't break Vibranium or hasn't been proven to be capable of doing so. Thus, he loses.

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Tony is way more versatile and can pretty much tank anything Ultron throws his way. Conversely, Ultron is pretty damn durable. I'll go with Tony after a good fight.

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@stalin-is-steel: do you think his repulsers are strong enough to melt the armor now?

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@stumerica: His repulsors don't melt anything- they are designed to push people back with kinetic force. The rest of his weapons aren't able to go through solid Vibranium, so I don't think he could.

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@stalin-is-steel: Alright, couldn't the lasers he used against Cull do some considerable, albeit non melting, damage?

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Depend's on enthusiasm level of Tony, but Ultron has more feature's behind MCU TS.

Ultron stomps mid diff.

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@stumerica: Cull isn't that tough, and I'd doubt he'd use them right off the bat. Ultron always kept him on his toes anyway, so he'll just end up using repulsors as that's his main weapon of choice.

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@stalin-is-steel: I get him not using it off the back, but he'd probably use them and his other gear as the fight goes on, eventually wearing Ultron down. Also, wasn't Cull near Hulk level?