Characters are at their peak
Bloodlust is on
Battle takes place during thunderstorm in middle of Atlantic Ocean
Win by any means
Characters are at their peak
Bloodlust is on
Battle takes place during thunderstorm in middle of Atlantic Ocean
Win by any means
If i recall correctly Storm can create Electromagnetic Pules/EMP, which pretty much makes all tech not work.
Just curious can IM and WM counter that, if so then they should win.
@lord_spectrum: Tony can counter EMP pretty easily. He can also blitz Storm before she makes a move.
@lord_spectrum: Tony can counter EMP pretty easily. He can also blitz Storm before she makes a move.
I agree on the blitz factor, considering that Storm is essentially a glass canon, one punch and she is down.
As for the EMP, it would be good if you or anyone else could post scans showing him resisting/countering that.
@lord_spectrum: Tony can counter EMP pretty easily. He can also blitz Storm before she makes a move.
I agree on the blitz factor, considering that Storm is essentially a glass canon, one punch and she is down.
As for the EMP, it would be good if you or anyone else could post scans showing him resisting/countering that.
@lord_spectrum: Seems like jay beat me to it. If you need more scans, I will post them.
@lord_spectrum: Seems like jay beat me to it. If you need more scans, I will post them.
Thanks. :)
But there is no need for other ones, that one is already good enough.
@lord_spectrum: Alright.
@noone1996: storm is useless here so yes. namor's (a mid tier) damage output and durability is just city level or lower. a punch from even war machine will oneshot namor.
on topic: stomp in team 1's favor. iron man and war machine are both high tiers.
Tony has some pretty insane suits and war machine is a badass. Namor and Storm are good, but come on: they'd loose 7-8/10
iron man and war machine are both high tiers.
Yea and Ironman totally Didnt Get Wrecked by Captain Marvel who is a low High Tier even though Tony had a Special Suit for the fight.
Ironman is a High Mid Tier.
iron man and war machine are both high tiers.
Yea and Ironman totally Didnt Get Wrecked by Captain Marvel who is a low High Tier even though Tony had a Special Suit for the fight.
Ironman is a High Mid Tier.
Tony is solid high tier, Carol was powered by the BendisForce and feminism. He's already beaten her before, even one-shotted her once. Carol's the one that's high mid, I'm willing to CaV it too.
iron man and war machine are both high tiers.
Yea and Ironman totally Didnt Get Wrecked by Captain Marvel who is a low High Tier even though Tony had a Special Suit for the fight.
Ironman is a High Mid Tier.
Tony is solid high tier, Carol was powered by the BendisForce and feminism. He's already beaten her before, even one-shotted her once. Carol's the one that's high mid, I'm willing to CaV it too.
No, Tony isnt a solid High tier. Low High Tiers like Kon El and Kid Flash would Obliterate him. Honestly, Unless Tony has prep or context Saying hes High tier is just pure wank.
@wewlad80: I'd call them higher than low high tiers.
You're changing the subject, though. Tony > Carol.
@wewlad80: I'd call them higher than low high tiers.
You're changing the subject, though. Tony > Carol.
No im not, Read the Original post from the Comment chain you responded to.
@wewlad80: I'd call them higher than low high tiers.
You're changing the subject, though. Tony > Carol.
No im not, Read the Original post from the Comment chain you responded to.
I meant that you're not responding to my comments on Carol and Tony.
@wewlad80: Too bad neither Kon El or Kid Flash are mid tiers.
@blitzdaken: Ehh, idk about War Machine one-shotting Namor with a punch, but I agree with everything else you said.
@wewlad80: Too bad neither Kon El or Kid Flash are mid tiers.
When did i say otherwise ? They are Firmly low High Tier, Not Quite On par with Superman or Barry but still very capable.
@wewlad80: I'd call them higher than low high tiers.
You're changing the subject, though. Tony > Carol.
No im not, Read the Original post from the Comment chain you responded to.
I meant that you're not responding to my comments on Carol and Tony.
Feminism/Fan Service or not, Carol Won when it mattered. And even worse she did it against an Ironman with Special non standard gear.
@wewlad80: Yes, Kon is and he is far from stomping Iron-man. Hell, Iron-man fought against more powerful foes and wasn't stomped. Fact that Tony can curbstomp Mid Tiers on the daily basis and that he consistently held his own against powerhouses from 60s is already enough to put him above mid tiers. Bart on the other hand has feats to put him on high end high tier level so he is totally different story.
Yea and Ironman totally Didnt Get Wrecked by Captain Marvel who is a low High Tier even though Tony had a Special Suit for the fight.
Ironman is a High Mid Tier.
Lmao that's cute. I didn't know that there were actually people out there that viewed Tony and Carol's fight as good writing. That's adorable. Let me show you how inconsistent it was that Carol casually stomped Iron Man's Hulk-Buster armor.
It'd be easier to address this by simply quoting myself in another thread.
That was PIS. She hasn't received any amps since he last fought her in his Heroes Return Armor in 1998-1999 and Tony was portrayed as superior to her back then. With a more advanced armor or Hulk-Buster suit, she shouldn't have a chance. I wouldn't trust Bendis to get that right though since he thought that the Ultimates could take on Thanos and Miles Morales could take on Blackheart.
Just look at how she fares against War Machine:
Now let's take a look at how she REALLY handles a Hulk-Buster armor. This time is different though since she has Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Captain America, She-Hulk, Luke Cage, and Wolverine to back her up.
Yes, the fact that Carol is essentially spanking the Hulk-Buster Iron Man in Civil War II is horrid writing.
Now, in regards to current Iron Man and current Ms. Marvel, I can post two instances where Iron Man outshines Carol in performance:
Meanwhile, Iron Man handles Gamora pretty easily here:
Then we can see how Iron Man's blasting power compares to Carol's blasting power:
Fin Fang Foom no-sells her blast.
And then you have Iron Man blasting him:
He seems to hurt him a lot more.
Since I already did an effective job of showing the gap between Carol and Iron Man in post #42 (in another thread), I'll just leave War Machine out of this and also show scans of her failing to do any damage to him whilst amped by half of the power of a city:
He doesn't even seem phased by her hit either. It's important to note that he didn't want to fight her there.
In reality, the gap between Carol and Tony is up there. In a well-written story, Iron Man should take it against her.
Also, your horrible logic of "This character is a low-end high tier and he'd obliterate Iron Man who you think is a low-high tier" contextless ABC logic is ridiculous. You can still be on the same level as another character, but get obliterated by them. For example, Namor, physically, is on par with Iron Man, yet Tony can one-shot him since he has heat based attacks and that's Namor's weakness. Context is important.
@supremegeneration: @krleavenger: We should make a thread that just has a bunch of scans and showings of Iron Man owning mid-tiers. The times he one-shotted She-Hulk, Titania, Colossus, Wrecker, Vision, Moonstone, Ms. Marvel, etc. Then we can just send the link every time someone tries to claim Tony is some low end mid-tier or high end street leveler.
@noone1996: I'm working on Injustice Hal Jordan respect thread so I won't be able to help at the moment.
@noone1996: I'd be down
Team 1 wins with Namor being overwhelmed since Storm is going down pretty early. Heat attacks are a weakness to Namor as it dehydrates him. Although the affect on him is inconsistent in showings but usually it takes time even when fully engulfed in flame. As such, due to the this being in the middle of an ocean this would still be hard earned. But ultimately I see it ending in their favor a good majority of the time. As well as heat, Tony would use his best weapon against Namor, his brain. Doing things to stall any attempt to regather any lost strength. He would work to control the battlefield, making Namor have to come to them. On the flipside, the benefit of a teammate still in the game would do good to keep Namor from being able to successfully drag them into the ocean.
@noone1996: While I usually tend to not care much about "tiers" as it can be way too variable to be an accurate way of judging characters... have people really tried claiming he's a high-end street leveler.
iron man and war machine are both high tiers.
Yea and Ironman totally Didnt Get Wrecked by Captain Marvel who is a low High Tier even though Tony had a Special Suit for the fight.
Ironman is a High Mid Tier.
Tony is solid high tier, Carol was powered by the BendisForce and feminism. He's already beaten her before, even one-shotted her once. Carol's the one that's high mid, I'm willing to CaV it too.
In Civil War 2, Iron Man could've easily one shotted Captain Marvel using his uni-beam if he wanted to because in "Infinity Countdown: Captain Marvel Issue no.1" (a story NOT written by Bendis), reality stone showed a reality where that same Iron Man armour almost killed Carol with its uni-beam
@x_zayd_x: That's good and all, but he really shouldn't even need a Hulk-Buster in the first place. That alternate reality is basically just saying that his fight against her with a Hulk-Buster armor could have gone either way (which I guess is better than him never having a chance), but still doesn't make Stark look that good.
@cruelrain: nice mid-tier feats. So you have no proof she was upgraded?
@sabbavsk: what scans? I can post a scan of Colossus effortlessly restraining Danvers as Binary, if you want.
It's from the same issue where she tried to kill Rogue and could barely hurt her, lol.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment