Iron Man & Aquaman vs The Thing

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R1: Hand to hand only

R2: Win by any means necessary

R3: Win only by death or KO

Conditions:

  • Aquaman is composite of Post Crisis & New 52

  • Iron Man has Bleeding Edge armor (616)
  • The Thing is 616
  • The Thing is determined to win
  • Iron Man and Aquaman are morals off
  • No jobbing and everyone is fighting to MAX potential
  • Fight takes place at a Beach near New York city

Bonus Round:

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The Thing has come to Gotham City to kill Batman (Post Crisis), Aquaman and Iron Man have to fight Thing long enough for Batman to create a device to kill him. Can they do it? Everyone is morals off and Thing always knows Batman's location. Batman can't leave the city.

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@thedevil98 what do you think about the bonus round since it has your favorite heroes? Can they beat Thing?

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@akz said:

Is this ur alt broom?

Definitely not them lol

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Thing wins the H2H round but loses the other two

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R1 can be Ben's win.
R2 and R3 are just mean and Ben doesn't need that ass kicking.

Ben Grimm couldn't win the bonus round 1v1 if Batman knows he is coming.

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Ha! Thou can add War Machine, Carol Danvers, Wonder Woman and Hawkman to the team and mayhap then their combined forces will allow them to achieve victory... 2 out of 10 times.

As it is they can only prevail if Batman's ingenuity saves their sorry arses! Otherwise, tis getting clobbered time for them!

So you think they can take a majority with Batman's help?

What if we added Sentry to the team?

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@wabubub: What do you think Batman could pull out 1v1 against the Thing in such short notice?

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He’d struggle with either one of them solo. He loses in a landslide here. I honestly don’t even see an argument outside Ben has heart.

Batman with 5 minutes of prep and 2 mid-tiers vs The Hulk, who would win???

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#17  Edited By Lilbroomstick

@rajjarbulk:

Lilbroomstick! Thou test my patience!

Okay okay I was just askin. . .

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It's clobbering time.

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@lilbroomstick said:
@ecstaticgrace said:

He’d struggle with either one of them solo. He loses in a landslide here. I honestly don’t even see an argument outside Ben has heart.

Batman with 5 minutes of prep and 2 mid-tiers vs The Hulk, who would win???

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Certainly not Stark, who was utterly helpless against a Thing level ape.

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Proof Thing is a close peer to the Hulk's strength^

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@wabubub:

R2 and R3 are just mean and Ben doesn't need that ass kicking.

Btw what do you think of the scans above?

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#34  Edited By ProfessorRespect

Decent fight but I see Thing taking the fight in mainland and wearing the pair down with his incredible endurance and strength.

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#35  Edited By Lilbroomstick

Speaking of cars in Marvel, remember that time Iron Man oneshot the crime tank that earlier in the same run was no-selling the Thing to the point where he couldn't really do a thingto it without getting ran over?

In theory, Iron Man should be able to defeat him considering that instance along with the fact:

Iron Man (2005) #7
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3500 feet per second =

2386.364 miles per hour

He was casually doing this in microseconds, the Thing is barely fast enough to perceive average human children moving away from him:

Thing is massively outpaced by normal kids, so much to the point where they're borderline FTE from his point of view
Thing is massively outpaced by normal kids, so much to the point where they're borderline FTE from his point of view

Thing can't react to or perceive Iron Man when actually using speed, he is literally a statue

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Decent fight but I see Thing taking the fight in mainland and wearing the pair down with his incredible endurance and strength.

What do you think about the bonus round, can Batman beat Ben under these conditions?

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Implies the Crime Tank is probably as strong, if not better than the one that fought Thing. Prove it wasn't
Implies the Crime Tank is probably as strong, if not better than the one that fought Thing. Prove it wasn't
Thing is a helpless baby when Iron Man picks him up by his shorts - Avengers (1996) #6
Thing is a helpless baby when Iron Man picks him up by his shorts - Avengers (1996) #6

Cope harder though

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#41  Edited By SleeperAgent

Iron Man and Aquaman get stomped, no contest, as my "Iron Man is not a High-Tier, 200+ Images of a mid-tier in action" thread is soon to prove.

Scaling Instances:

Iron Man can't even budge Gray Hulk and gets his armor crunched by his grip (Hulk Smash Avengers #4)

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Grey Hulk no-sells his repulsors and one-shots him (The Order 2002: #3)

Hulk one-shots a Hulkbuster that no-sold Iron Man's attacks (A+X #7)

Hulkbuster amped by Zom's magic can only make Hercules mildly saw "ow" (Incredible Hulk #111)

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Hulk no-sells a combined blast from Carol and Iron Man (New Avengers: Army of One)

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Hulk no-sells a combined blast from and Iron Man and Carol (Hulk Annual 2000)

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Red Hulk no-sells Iron Man (Hulk 2008: #2)

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Hulk destroys an Iron Man armor simply by transforming (Avengers Assemble 2012: #6)

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Hulk one-shots Blizzard's prison that would have restrained Iron Man (Hulk #249)

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Intelligent Hulk jumps clean through a ship that Iron Man and Human Torch could hardly chip (Hulk #278)

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Iron Man is manhandled by a Thing/Hulk level ape (Iron Man 1998: #16)

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Thor one-shots Iron Man (Avengers #111)

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Thor throws his hammer through a prototype of Iron Man's current armor (Thor #375)

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Thor one-shots a door that Iron Man would need an entire day to blast open (The Marvel Superheroes)

Hulk no-sells Iron Man's repulsors, dents his armor with a shove, hurts his ears through the armor with a yell, and would have one-shot him if he didn't transform back to Banner (Avengers & X-Men: Gamma Quest)

Rogue tanks Iron Man's repulsors, bruises his ribs using Cyclops' beams, and causes major malfunctions with a punch

(Avengers & X-Men: Gamma Quest)

Stone Black Knight no-sells Iron Man's repulsors but destroys himself hitting Vision (Avengers #157)

Vision no-sells a unibeam from the Super Adaptoid copying Iron Man (Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes II #8)

Robot overpowers Iron Man's momentum and restrains him, while a Mar-Vell Skrull flies through it (Captain Marvel 2008: #1)

Wonder Man no-sells his repulsors and tears apart his armor (Marvel Comics Presents #41)

Teeth that go clean through Stark's armor are no-sold by Wonder Man (Avengers West Coast #73-74)

Living Laser one-shots Iron Man and Cap, who recover around the same time, and who a weakened Wonder Man tanks (Avengers Annual #6)

Iron Man would have died to Adamantium Rods, which Wonder Man would have resisted (West Coast Avengers #1)

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Cage says Iron Man's repulsors wouldn't hurt him and Iron Man doesn't dispute or try to stop him (Secret Invasion #1)

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Luke Cage damages his chest plate and parries a non-holding back punch from him (Power Man #17)

Iron Man's repulsors are tanked by Red Onslaught, who in the next issue got his jaw blown off by Havok+Cyclops and his skull cracked by Colossus (Axis #2)

Iron Man can't scratch Rhino, admits Rhino could take his punishment for a whole day, needs to use all of his strength just to hold him in one place and still only beat him by suffocating him (Iron Man #238)

Iron Man needs 30 minutes to defeat Rhino while aided by Captain America (Spider-Man Unlimited #8)

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One-shot by Hyperion (Superior Spider-Man Teamup #1)

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Namor no-sells Iron Man's repulsors (New Avengers 2006)

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Carol one-shots Iron Man in an armor even more powerful than the Hulkbuster(Civil War II #8)

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Pym crushes Iron Man's armor with his grip (Avengers #393)

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Colossus restrains an Iron Man duplicate that overpowered and defeated the actual Iron Man (Infinity War #

Bonus points for Wolverine shrugging off a blast from this bloodlusted duplicate
Bonus points for Wolverine shrugging off a blast from this bloodlusted duplicate

Both Sasquatch and Colossus could withstand Iron Man's repulsors (Fantastic Four #348)

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Casual shove by the Olympian god Cupid one-shots Iron Man despite Hercules being the strongest Olympian(Marvel Super-Heroes 1990: #9)

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Admits he can't hurt Thor (Incredible Hulk #284)

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Atlas tanks Iron Man's repulsors and Songbird rattles his skull with her constructs (Thunderbolts #11)

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Cap ragdolls Iron Man who needs Thor's help to restrain him (Captain America: Man out of Time #1)

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Iron Man struggles to hold back Cap even with the aid of Thor (Avengers #8)

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Cap takes the full force of Iron-Man's repulsors without a whimper (Avengers #5)

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After punching eachother, Iron Man is left rubbing his jaw while Cap talks to Vision (Avengers #114)

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Cap recovers quicker than Iron Man against Dark Phoenix's flames (AVX #12)

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Cap stalemates Hydra Cap wearing Improved Stark Armor (Secret Empire #10)

Cap stalemates Iron Man (Onslaught Reborn #4)

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Cap blocks punches from Iron Man (Invaders #7)

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Cap tanks a blast from an enchanted Iron Man armor (Avengers #2)

Cap smacks around Iron Man and overpowers his super magnet (Avengers/Invaders #2)

Cap could have beaten Iron Man every single time they fought but spared him (Civil War II: The Oath)

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Elderly Cap stomps Nomad, who Iron Man couldn't tag him twice in the same issue (Captain America #23)

Bucky pops off Iron Man's helmet while the armor was at 82% (Captain America #33)

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Bucky catches Iron Man's punch (Invaders #7)

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Spider-Man tanks a max-power Uni-beam, restrains Tony with his webs, rips off and dents his helmet (Spider-Man: One More Day)

Spider-Man tears apart Iron Man's armor (Amazing Spider-Man: Who Am I)

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Quantifiable Instances:

Iron Man's maximum level punch is 40,000 newtons (Iron Man 2020: #7)

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Iron Man's armor considers a C4 explosive highly dangerous (Avengers: X-Sanction #2)

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Iron Man is unable to dent granite walls (Tales of Suspense #50)

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Iron Man is pinned by a large crate (Iron Man #156)

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Iron Man is pinned by a rockslide (Tales of Suspense #87)

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Iron Man's armor can't withstand lightning for long (Iron Man 1998: #17)

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Iron Man's repulsor blasts are no-sold by a couch (Marvel Super-Heroes #9)

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Iron Man's hall of armors barely survives a falling skyscraper (Avengers 2010: #17)

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Strains himself opening a locked airplane hangar door (Tales of Suspense #49)

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Explicitly isn't strong enough to catch two tanks (Tales of Suspense #50)

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A flatcar would have shattered Iron Man's transistors (Tales of Suspense #64)

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Iron Man struggles hugely to stop an out of control pinwheel (Tales of Suspense #57)

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Iron Man's hand is hurt by a falling machine (Iron Man 1968: #7)

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Harmed by an animated statue of marble (Iron Man 1968: #10)

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Iron Man would have died to a fall if not for slowing it down with his magnetic repeller (Tales of Suspense #49)

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Iron Man would have died to a fall if not for Goliath saving him (Tales of Suspense #49)

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Iron Man would have died to a fall if not for crashing through the window (Tales of Suspense #79)

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Iron Man damages his repulsor breaking a fall (Spider-Man: One More Day)

LMD wearing Iron Man's armor is killed by a factory's smelting pot (Iron Man 1968: #18)

Iron Man is knocked out by electric wires (Avengers #157)

A regular human takes a formula that lets him manipulate his weight to the point where he weighs almost a thousand pounds, which leads to Iron Man thinking he would die if his heavy foot kicked him. He defeats him by increasing his weight to the point where steel can't support it (Iron Man Annual #2)

Knocked out by an exploding yacht (Marvel Super-Heroes 1990: #13)

Iron Man says that if the soldiers he fought weren't using small bore guns he'd be in big trouble (Tales of Suspense #51/92)

Once this is finished, I'll be making one for Aquaman.

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#42  Edited By Lilbroomstick

@rajjarbulk: He for sure was taken off his feet:

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The yellow circle shows where Thing's feet are off the ground
The yellow circle shows where Thing's feet are off the ground

Thing countered the bullrush, but saying he wasn't knocked off his feet is the true fanfiction. Ben was nearly positioned to be laying down in the air rather than standing if you look at his legs and foot.

Ben has shown to be helpless if Iron Man puts him in position for a wedgie

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You can see how his arm is desperately moving to attack Iron Man while he angrily shouts to be put down. The Thing was helpless and unable to do anything. He also admitted to try cheating on Spider-Man with Thor but that obviously didn't work out lol

He should just stick to giving that mouth-ta-mouth to Peter:

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I bet the Aquaman fans (& noone1996) aren't gonna be too happy with that scan dump though

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@professorrespect said:

Decent fight but I see Thing taking the fight in mainland and wearing the pair down with his incredible endurance and strength.

What do you think about the bonus round, can Batman beat Ben under these conditions?

Bruce can handle Ben in a good number of ways if he takes him seriously.

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Iron Man or Aquaman can solo a slow brick like Thing.

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Namor hitting with the force of a not speeding car and sending Thing flying with blood doesn't say much about either character. It is more typical than the high ends people keep using for both, however.

Here's Aquaman on the low end:

Aquaman can pinpoint a highspeed chase in downtown Boston from the harbor because of his super-senses. He intercepted that highspeed chase easily and created a sonic boom in doing so, moving fast enough people didn't know what what was going on until he stopped moving. They saw a blur and explosion. That's an armored car in a high speed chase that Aquaman no-diffs.

Armored cube vans like that weigh approximately 6 tons and carry a similar amount of cargo weight. A car weighs about 2 tons in comparison and an already high speed chase van flooring it can easily be 90 mph.

p=mv therefore Aquaman no-diffed a momentum 6 times what made Thing bleed and go flying. That's lower showing for lower showings. It's also one of the most likely in character responses to Thing or Namor. The come in to punch and Aquaman's speed, reach, and weapon stab them first before tossing them away.

Thing's typical durability feats might be more in line with Animated Aquaman.

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Animated Aquaman gets punched flying from the harbor into the city through buildings, moves fast enough to move dust out of the air, and doesn't bleed from a speeding car. I'll also point out Superman and Aquaman were the only characters referred to as "gods" in that movie, and Wonder Woman the only one claiming she has any business fighting with gods. ;-)

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#46  Edited By Lilbroomstick

This thread might've been my best idea yet LMAO possibly even a GOATED idea

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#47  Edited By Lilbroomstick

@ashrym: Well yeah it's no secret the Thing has never been particularly fast...

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Also gets hurt by a trash can thrown by a villain that Iron Man & Thor have dealt with multiple times, yet the Thing has failed to KO him in every encounter. I wonder why
Also gets hurt by a trash can thrown by a villain that Iron Man & Thor have dealt with multiple times, yet the Thing has failed to KO him in every encounter. I wonder why
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@ashrym: Well yeah it's no secret the Thing has never been particularly fast...

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Also gets hurt by a trash can thrown by a villain that Iron Man & Thor have dealt with multiple times, yet the Thing has failed to KO him in every encounter. I wonder why
Also gets hurt by a trash can thrown by a villain that Iron Man & Thor have dealt with multiple times, yet the Thing has failed to KO him in every encounter. I wonder why

Thing gets hurt by a lot of things and he is slow. That's the issue. People keep making arguments against Iron Man or Aquaman citing "typical' for both of them as a form of gaslighting the better feats, and then use the better feats of other character through scaling in Thing's particular battles to claim Thing wins.

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Thing would need at least an hour to bust Titanium doors (Fantastic Four #142)

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Doom's forcefield takes a punch from Thing but can be broken by an atomic bomb (Fantastic Four #157)

Thing uses electric wires to defeat a Triceratops that shrugged off his punch (Marvel Two-In-One #97)

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Thing stubs his toe on the sidewalk (Fantastic Four #29)

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Thing would have been killed by part of a falling building if not for Reed (Fantastic Four #132)

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