@cresshadow: Does Thor not take damage from multi mountain blows?
@blackpantherisb: he regularly fights people like hulk and hyperion. hulk's high end feats are in his show but I currently do not have access to them but his most impressive feat off the top of my head was pulling the earth's tectonic plates back together and preventing the earth from splitting in half. and since hyperion regularly overpowers hulk, its pretty much established that its thor>= hyperion > hulk
@blackpantherisb: He is pretty fast.
Here Thor effortlessly dodges a spear after it is thrown.
Thor casually bats down missiles.
Hyperion can casually dodge multiple missiles and has FTE speed at his lowest.
At his best, Hyperion is fast enough to blitz a Hulk fast enough to run across the united states in seconds.
And yet, Hyperion was unable to react to multiple blows from Thor.
Thor is also a lightning timer.
Here Thor tanks IG Thanos punching him to the moon. This is a continental feat due to the size of the crater.
Thor tanks several blows from an amped Hulk. This Hulk is strong enough to pull tectonic plates.
@blackpantherisb: I think that you misunderstood me, I was talking about Hulk. Hulk in that GIF was was amped and was fast enough to run from NYC to an island in the middle of the Pacific.
Here Thor launches Hulk a couple hundred meters with a casual strike.
The simple act of a high five between Thor and Hulk, cause shock-waves capable of sending huge alien ships off course.
Here Thor one-shots Fin fang Foom sending the multi-ton beast flying over skyscrapers and at least a city block away.
Here Thor strikes so hard that the shock-waves of his blows cause tidal waves capable of destroying NYC. It is worth noting that NYC was hundreds of miles away but the tidal waves still threatened to destroy it.
He does it again but this time with his fist.
Thor is strong enough to casually one-shot the Super Adaptoid. The Super Adaptoid had the combined durability of the entire avengers, including Thor and Hulk.
Here Thor cracks a city sized asteroid in half. Thor was likely holding back due to his friends being on the asteroid and he was instructed to only crack it.
And last but not least, Thor strikes Hulk hard enough to knock him out, send him from the moon to earth,make an indent of Mjolnir on his face, and give him amnesia.
@destinyman75: The West Coast durability feat I was talking about was performed in a weaker and less advanced armor than his Bleeding Edge suit. Do you have any references in mind that leads you to believe that the durability of this armor is overrated?
@destinyman75: Here's a respect thread that might give you some more insight: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/65wzp8/respect_iron_man_model_37_bleeding_edge_marvel/.
@thunderprince: I already posted feats that are more than enough to prove Iron Man's superiority in post #32 which I know you've seen, but I can post more if you want. In his Bleeding-Edge armor specifically, he held his own against a cosmic empowered being capable of stomping 616 Thor:
For a reference, this is what Taurus did to Thor:
These are both striking power feats and durability feats. Since Thor was basically three-shotted by Taurus and it took two hits to KO Tony, it's pretty impressive. This character also tanked a hit from Thor and Iron Man managed to make him grunt out in pain. It should be noted that Thor was not KO'd for that long. It took Iron Man MUCH longer to wake up from Taurus' knockout and even after that his armor wasn't fully recovered either.
He also managed to ragdoll Red Hulk while making him scream out in agony:
As for speed, Tony literally pulled a Smallville and basically saw a point-blank explosion in slow motion:
He also outraced a missile and its explosion without warning:
As you can see, the missile was already inside of his hotel room by the time he saw what was happening. He had no warning at all and as soon as he realized what was happening, he armored up and flew a couple hundred feet towards the Octobot before the explosion even went off.
I've got more too, but honestly this should be overkill to prove that Iron Man stomps here. Doing as well as he does against the 616 powerhouses in Marvel comics is more than enough to prove my case. This isn't even going into the fact that Iron Man can amp himself to even HIGHER levels of power than what he's shown here once Thor begins to shoot lightning which Tony can absorb casually.
@thunderprince: Oh right I forgot that the OP said "no bleeding edge". He said "regular" Iron Man which we still don't really know what that is. Here is a respect thread to his most recent armor: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/tantani/blog/iron-man-armor-model-51-model-prime-armor-all-in-o/127548/. Read the comments too. I think that even this armor would beat AA Thor. I could argue that pretty much any version of Iron Man could beat this version of Thor. Even one of his earliest and weakest armors has great feats: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/iron-man/4005-1455/forums/iron-man-respect-thread-model-2-golden-armor-1883398/
@destinyman75: You are literally basing your opinion off of the idea that Thor > Iron Man. That doesn't apply to all versions. MCU Thor doesn't have any durability feats which would suggest that he'd survive a single serious punch or repulsor blast from 616 Iron Man. It's about feats. For example, Avengers Assemble Thor would stomp MCU Thor because he has MUCH better feats.
@blackpantherisb: Well Hulk tanked this without any damage.
And Yet Hyperion absolutely destroyed Hulk with his heat vision.
Hyperion can also create an atomic explosion with his heat vision unaided.
And yet Thor tanked his HV without any damage whatsoever.
Thor can also absorb and redirect energy attacks.
@noone1996: Okay, Iron-man is pretty powerful but this version lacks the speed feats to keep up with AA Thor. AA Thor was able to detect his version of Ghost even when he was invisible. Most of Iron-man's attacks can be either blocked or dodged by someone with Thor's speed. Unlike his 616 version, this Thor clowns street levers with his speed.
I wish there was a rule that comics could only face comics because otherwise we get people picking a comic incarnation for no other reason that it's from a comic. I'm not even kidding. You'd probably have people pick 616 Spidey over AA Thor if that were the topic.
The problem comics have had for ages is incredibly poor power scaling in team books. When you have people as weak as Spidey or Cap making guys like Thanos stagger and this is a consistent issue, you have a problem. Though that just lets people cherry pick comic book feats and when you bring in low showings in vs topics they'll call you a lowballer all the while they only use 0.1% feats or stuff they know makes no sense against the characters average showings. /rant
AA Thor Wins.
@thunderprince: Even if, for whatever reason, this armor was made to be less fast as his pre-Extremis/Bleeding-Edge armors, he does still have some impressive speed feats. One of them you already saw in the respect thread against Karnak when he completely outspeeds him. He also reacts to and absorbs Crystal's lightning which is also pretty good reaction feat. So he was dodging, tagging, and overall outspeeding a character that can do this with his speed:
In fact, he was even fast enough to vibrate his molecules to touch a phased opponent:
@noone1996: So, he has out sped a bullet-timer, that pretty impressive. I'm not sure if I can count the regent feat since he only tagged him with missiles and dodged a generic energy beam. As I showed in post 59, Thor can casually bat down missiles. It is also a stretch to say that he reacted to lightning since he didn't move even the slightest bit.
Thor could simply knock him into a portal but that is quite out of character for Thor. So Fair enough on the BFR thing.
@noone1996: Yeah, but he tagged him with missiles, that is the definition of PIS. If he had dodged a punch then it would be a great feat but instead he only dodged a generic energy beam, Thor has done that many times.
MCU Iron-man absorbs lightning as well, but it doesn't make him a lightning timer. AA Thor on the other hand did actually react to lightning by moving his arm in its direction after it was fired.
@thunderprince: I have evidence. It seems like it's automatic sometimes since there is no mention through narration that he had to consciously change or adapt a setting on his armor, but there are also times when it's clear that he had to do something beforehand. Here are the scans, but I'm just curious about your reaction.
@noone1996: Okay in that case Iron-man has comparable reaction speed. While Iron-man's bull-rushes are more powerful, Thor's standard striking power is much better. Thor's also has the rang advantage with Mjolnir, while all of Iron-man's projectiles can be casually dodged or deflected.
@thunderprince: In that armor, sure I'll admit that AA Thor has better standard striking power and yeah Thor could probably deflect or absorb most of whatever is thrown at him by model 51 Iron Man, but Thor's lightning is just going to amp Iron Man. Plus he has an instantaneous self-repairing ability that Thor really won't know how to handle.
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