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It is taking place in a desert in which there is nothing for spiderman to cling on to, and he does not have webs either. Ironfist has all his modern powers. It is a battle in which it is pure H2H. They are both bloodlusted who would win?

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#2 Posted by deactivated-5a10742356699 (49 posts) - - Show Bio

sorry for that weird way the text is in.

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It is taking place in a desert in which there is nothing for spiderman to cling on to, and he does not have webs either. Ironfist has all his modern powers. It is a battle in which it is pure H2H. They are both bloodlusted who would win?

Oh, this is quite close.

Even with no webbing, i'd give this to spidy due to superior speed and spider-sense.

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#4 Posted by TDK_1997 (18670 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Iron Fist can win.Spider-man has his spider-sense and superior speed but Iron Fist can tie things up.If he stays close to Spider-Man and doesn't go too far from him he can win.

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#5 Edited by schillenger420 (1633 posts) - - Show Bio

This is one of the closer Spiderman fights i'v seen, Kudo's to the OP for setting up the rules that way. The fanboy in me says it still goes to the Spider. He has a very unique style of fighting, still has his spider sense, strength, agility, speed, reaction time, and above all intelligence. Even without webs he'll still be all over the place so I give him the majority. One question though, is this like the Sahara desert with sand dunes and such, or more like hard scrabble, scrub brush, not a tree in sight type desert? Just a formality probably but if they're fighting in ankle-deep sand, while in theory it slows them down equally it should cut down on Spideys acrobatics.

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#7 Posted by TifaLockhart (21107 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Spider-Sense is a big advantage unless swayed.

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#8 Edited by Kuzman123 (281 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote for Spidey, if he can land one good blow its over, but same goes for Iron fist with that chi. Since spider man is superior in almost every way I give him the win....

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#9 Posted by 14NC3 (2073 posts) - - Show Bio

The OP says it's pure h2h between them two, so spider-man has no powers? I was gonna say that it would be an okay battle but I realised that spider-mans way of the spider only works with his powers, so this is a stomp for the iron fist.

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#10 Edited by TifaLockhart (21107 posts) - - Show Bio

I assumed hand to hand meant no weapons. If that's not the case, Danny wins.

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#11 Edited by schillenger420 (1633 posts) - - Show Bio

@14nc3 said:

The OP says it's pure h2h between them two, so spider-man has no powers? I was gonna say that it would be an okay battle but I realised that spider-mans way of the spider only works with his powers, so this is a stomp for the iron fist.

Just because its straight H2H doesn't mean Spidey has no powers. He has no webs, and given the setting nothing to stick to, but too my knowledge (I'm not the op) all his other powers still apply. Otherwise you have a martial arts master against a powerless Peter Parker in the desert and that's not even a fight.

I assumed hand to hand meant no weapons. If that's not the case, Danny wins.

The op specifically states pure H2H so a no weapons battle is a reasonable assumption. Even if that's not the case how does Iron Fist get past Spidermans advantages.... mainly a Spider-Sense that in this scenario may as well be precog, and the speed/agility/reaction time to make it useful? I'm not saying Iron Fist can't win.... it's just not that likely.

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#12 Posted by Strider1992 (18501 posts) - - Show Bio

A good case for Danny can be made. Bloodlusted both of them have a pretty good chance. I'm going with Spider-man simply because hr seems to function longer at a high level than Danny. Ie: Danny has good speed feats but they seem to be in short bursts where as Spider-man can consistently hold a high level of speed indefinitely.

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#13 Edited by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92 said:

A good case for Danny can be made. Bloodlusted both of them have a pretty good chance. I'm going with Spider-man simply because hr seems to function longer at a high level than Danny. Ie: Danny has good speed feats but they seem to be in short bursts where as Spider-man can consistently hold a high level of speed indefinitely.

Yeah but wasn't the whole point of Iron Fist studying from the Book of the Iron Fist was so that he could use his Chi for longer periods of time?

Edit- I wonder how Peter would react to a hypnotic fist?

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Yeah but wasn't the whole point of Iron Fist studying from the Book of the Iron Fist was so that he could use his Chi for longer periods of time?

Longer being the key-word not indefinitely.

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Edit- I wonder how Peter would react to a hypnotic fist?

That exists -.o? lol

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#15 Posted by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92:

Yeah, he used it to calm down a load of mad people in a crowd. Spider-Man asked how long did that move take to master, and Danny was like 8 years. Shame he doesn't use it more often :(

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#16 Posted by Strider1992 (18501 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: So its not something he'd resort to in a confrontation.

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#17 Edited by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: Na, its not something he uses. Kinda like Thor's Matter Manipulation.

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#18 Edited by Strider1992 (18501 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: Or Spider-man's spider-sense when Slott is writing!

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#19 Posted by TifaLockhart (21107 posts) - - Show Bio

But but, Slott wrote the best squirrel girl.

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#20 Edited by 14NC3 (2073 posts) - - Show Bio

@schillenger420:

The OP says 'pure h2h' so I thought you meant it was just their hand to hand skill and nothing else, so you can see my confusion. Anyways....

This is a close and good fight cause both can one shot each other and spider-man has no webbing but then again spidey has superior stats what with his superior strength, speed and agility plus way of the spider. Iron fist barely has the speed to keep up with spider-man, and has the skill and striking power to make up for that, but I doubt Danny will be able to tag Peter with his iron fist.

Heres some scans of the way of the spider if you're un-familiar with it: (Starting right to left) Here he is stalemating julia carpenter someone who can see the future and has spider powers, Impressive page of spider-man training with shang chi the way of the spider (both of these are without his spider-sense), and easily beating spider-woman with just the way of the spider even though she beat him h2h before. (btw there are more showings, not bothered to find the rest atm)

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#21 Edited by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: Or Spider-man's spider-sense when Slott is writing!

Be careful, Slott is now certified flame bait material >.> <.<

But but, Slott wrote the best squirrel girl.

That he did :)

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#22 Posted by schillenger420 (1633 posts) - - Show Bio

@14nc3: Thanks for the scan. I'm aware that Spiderman trained in an actual fighting style but I never saw the scans.

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#23 Edited by CalebHara (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist his speed is almost equal to Peters. He has superior martial skill/abilities. When bloodlusted, he only needs to land one hit.

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#24 Edited by 14NC3 (2073 posts) - - Show Bio

@schillenger420:

You're welcome ^^

And even before he had the martial art spider-man would have a good chance against iron fist cause his fighting style before was on the high end of marvel earth.

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#25 Edited by robertpaulson (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Current IF vs current spidy is stalemate 5/5 Danny can chi up to match or surpass slightly SMs speed, agility and overall strength and then definitely has the harder hit. But the kicker is Spider-mans reflexes to danger even as fast as Danny can make himself he has mentioned that he doesn't think he could Iron "Fist" him because he seems to have a form a precognition ( doesn't know about the spidy sense). But Danny has already sized him up, it's just what fighters do. Other than not being able to one shot Spidy, IF hasn't mentioned any other concern. I think it's possibility for IF to hypnotic fist Spidy but Spider sense will probly snap Peter out of it the second IF tries to hit him. And spider man won't be able to hit a chi augmented IF because everything about him will be supernaturally augmented standard rules or even mutant rules for exhaustion don't have part here. In one v one right Iron fist for the most parts trumps most comers because he's all about focus, think Green Lantern focus, physically a beast by human standards but then throw in chi, it's really mind over matter there. Hell Danny once created a chi Dragon construct to extend the reach of his punch. The only reason why that didn't work is because it was against the one Dragon chi eating Demon that has hunted and Killed Iron Fists by their 33rd birthdays, and Danny still eventually won against that. So stalemate, I know spidy is fast strong and durable but not as fast strong or as durable as IF can be but Spider sense is super natural in itself so they balance each other out IMO.

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#26 Posted by RenaissanceMan (1462 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist his speed is almost equal to Peters. He has superior martial skill/abilities. When bloodlusted, he only needs to land one hit.

I say Iron Fist.

Wouldn't he be able to make himself faster than Spiderman?

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#27 Posted by Stormdriven (17851 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman wins in a fight that is as close as you can get it.

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#28 Edited by reaverlation (25866 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter

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#29 Posted by i_like_swords (26196 posts) - - Show Bio

...how does this thread have 100k views?

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#30 Edited by cdiddyman911 (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Fist can take more than 1 strike from Peter while Peter cant take a shot from Danny. Plus Danny has showed to know be spider man speed(or near it). Plus Danny's H2H>>>>>>Peter's. So Danny should definitely win.

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#31 Posted by Jacthripper (14967 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter, Iron Fist has admitted that he can't get around the Spidersense

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#33 Edited by 106me (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: If views count as the number of times a thread was visited from ANYONE (members and non members alike), then my guess is a lot of people who are not members are looking this battle up and are coming across this specific thread.

Eerie, isn't it? As if we are being watched... 0_0

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#36 Posted by njones5 (402 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron fist. He knows spidey has spider sense. He could come up with a way to trick it.

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#37 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (10213 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#38 Posted by Adam_Taurus (766 posts) - - Show Bio

No webbing?

Iron fist 7/10 easily. Maybe a hard 8