Irene vs Suzaku

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Who wins?

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Irene wins.

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Selene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Irene in terms of Power.

Suzaku was shown to be relative if not above Suppressed Selene.

More so Irene is a dragon, So Suzaku gets an even bigger advantage. So Suzaku Godstomps negative diff.

You can put August in Irene's team and Suzaku still stomps

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Suzuki slices and dices

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Irene > Giga Gajeel >= Suzaku.

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Suzaku stomps

Hurt a DG even if Selene was playing around that already puts him above any of the Spriggans by feats.

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#7  Edited By CocaColaMan

Suzaku may win due to DS

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Suzaku scratching a casual Selene does not put him above Irene at all, who also fought with a casual Acnologia, who's more difficult to harm since he's immune to magic. I don't know where this idea comes from that a Dragon Slayer being able to scratch a God Dragon who's explicitly playing around means they can annihilate the top Spriggans.

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#9  Edited By BigMoistJunior

Probably Irene.

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Suzaku stomps

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If Suzaku gets one shotted in the next chapter, will that change people's mind about him?

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Suzaku high diff

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Basically what hit said.

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@jdogg said:

Irene > Giga Gajeel >= Suzaku.

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Irene didn't do shit to Acno, all she did was push him back and dodge an attack. Suzaku's performance was much much better.

Even if we don't use Suzaku's feat against Selene, Suzaku still wins, him one shotting a much much stronger Erza and Natsu>>>Anything the Spriggans did

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@gogito: As much as I think Irene is overrated, both she and August's fight had alot of PIS, since they both had more ways to instantly end their fights against their opponents

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Suzuaku

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@grandtoaa: Yh ik, but there is no definite way to scale their power. All we know is that they scale way below Human pre RoT Acno.

August got overpowered by Gildarts when he realized his weakness and was forced to use Ars Magic. Heavily weakened and weaker Erza had the AP to slice through Irene's dragon scales. Base Suzaku without even trying flat out Overpowered a stronger Erza.

Which is why I have Suzaku>>>>Irene by that feat alone.

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Erza was weakened from her Youko fight and PoF Erza >>> Current Erza.

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@jdogg: We've seen Erza get more injured in Tenrou, Tartaros, GMG, and Alvarez than she was against Youka, still didn't get blitz by the main villains of those arcs, like she against Suzaku

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#21  Edited By JDogg

@grandtoaa: She was sweating after the Youko fight so she obviously wasn't in tip top shape after her main battle of the arc. Same happens after mostly every main battle she has in an arc. Also she blocked the attack still, her blade broke however.

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@jdogg: Yea I went to go check it out again, but at the same time, Suzaku managed to cut Selena who I think we all can agree should be faster than Erza. So the feat of blitzing both she and Natsu ain't because of their fatigue. If Suzaku had gotten stomped or one shot, then that could have been the case

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#23  Edited By JDogg

@grandtoaa: Erza wasn't expecting it and still reacted. Selene wasn't phased by the slash either and wasn't going all out. It's like Jellal tagging Acno or Gray tagging Merc ect., the God tiers allow themselves to be hit most of the time. So Erza def went down due to surprise and fatigue. Natsu was blindsided in Base.

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@gogito: you are wrong. Erza could only cut through dragon Irene because her sword was enchanted with dragon slayer magic otherwise she would not be even able to scratch dragon Irene

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@kingxix: Exaaaactly..... Soooo........ Is Suzaku a dragon. Slayer or not??

You missed my entire point. I said broken bones Erza with very little DS magic on her sword had the AP to cut Irenes dragon scales. And we flat out see Suzaku (who has far more DS magic then Erza could ever have) overpower and break Erzas sword with no diff. With that, Suzaku can just blink and All of Dragon Irene's scales will be shattered.

Idk what you mean you say "you are wrong" wtf

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Suzaku slaughters now after this chapter.

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Selene highly overrated, lol) She even didn't sth impressive. Not good material for scaling.

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Suzaku insta kills Irene like a fodder.

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Selene became yet another villain that was all hype.

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Suzaku wins though.

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Giga Gajeel feat against Dragon Form of DG is still impressive. GG < =Brandish. While according to her all 10 S12 in sum <<< either S12 top tier.

Deus Sema is still the fastest attack in FT and Irene is faster than it. She also blocked boosted by enchanted Blummenblatt, while non enchanted Erza smucked Dragon Form Acnologia from sky. Weakend Erza trying to block matched Suzaku speed. He is definitely not blitzing here.

The ground under him turns into a big ship and he gets his sword teleported right point blank in his face.

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@emperor99: Are you now saying Irene is stronger than Selene? Did you not say Selene was planet level and beyond before?

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@grandtoaa: wtf? I am never wrote about planet level Selene. Where did you find it? If Suzaku can't speedblitz (and he can't bcs weakend Erza reacts on his sword) he loses bcs of hax for obvious reasons.

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Selene highly overrated, lol) She even didn't sth impressive. Not good material for scaling.

@kingxix said:

Suzaku insta kills Irene like a fodder.

Selene became yet another villain that was all hype.

can anyone give me an update? on what happened in new chapter

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@tauio: Suzaku one shotted Selene after all the hype she was getting.

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#36  Edited By GrandTOAA

@emperor99: Trying to remember between you and Jdogg who said Selene was above Acnologia, and we know Acnologia is above Irene. And you can't compare the attacks Suzaku used on Erza and the ones he used to one shot Selene

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@grandtoaa: @grandtoaa: Irene still won by bfr against Acno. Jdogg likes Irene too, so I doubt that he said that Selene is planetary. Base Zeref is planetary, who is comparable with Irene. Her Deus Sema spell already provides attacks with multiplanetary AoE at least.

Jdogg said that Acnologia >>> DGs, bcs of hax. DGs are Igneel lvl at best, just more haxy than him and I agree with that point.

If someone says that Selene is multidimensional, so, by this logic I can bring the same Irene U1, which resurrected Gajeel, which soul was in Hell already. All 4 Selene proteges were out haxed by Irene one protege.

And we still didn't know what that real Selene or illusion.

If Erza will beat Suzaku in 2nd encounter, this will mean that Wendy Belserion no diffs him, she's above maxPoF Erza level.

Either way don't see a problem with girl with teleport, who dodged Acno explosion attack, to dodge Suzaku. I am not even mention that she can enchant herself by DiMaria time magic to use it as good as DiMaria or Zeref. Gajeel still hit DG in drsgon form, and GG speed < GB speed < Irene speed as well.

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@grandtoaa: I said Selene could possibly be above Acno. After current feats, clearly she is not since Acno wouldn't have been scratch by Suzaku let alone gotten that damaged by him. She can still strip his magic since he also got reacted to by a tired out Erza lol.

Overall, I'd say way until next chapter to see the conclusion.

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@jdogg: He effortlessly shattered Erza's sword and one shot her with a no named attack. You can't compare it to the same attacks he used on Selene to cut her. He blitzs if he is going all out.

Each chapter brings new possibilities lol, not long ago everyone was hyping up Selene as supposedly planet level. Are we now gonna downplay her to downplay Suzaku? Till further information, it's safe to say Suzaku wins for now.

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@emperor99: I don't think I've seen anyone who wanks Irene like you. You really think she can beat Acnologia, and she is the strongest character in Fairytail don't you? An enchanter that was getting countered by a little girl. We are now gonna give her feats she never displayed in the manga, which is like me saying August might have copied all the non holder magic in the entire series and can do things we never saw him do. If Acnologia took her as serious as God Serena, we know the outcome.

I don't see how Giant Gajeel's speed matters here considering he was fighting a stationary/slow moving DG. You are now downplaying the dragon gods just to hype Irene.

It whatever, don't even wanna get into it

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Until this whole ordeal is over and we know for a fact nothing weird is going on (something obviously is, Suzaku went from "can't slay Dragon" to slicing into Selene ffs) let's not get worked up.

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Suzaku Annihilates the whole spriggans including Zeref (Without his cheap immortality) feel free to debate me on it

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#43  Edited By JDogg

@grandtoaa: He shattered a sword whoop dee doo, Kiria did that too and she is fodder lol. He also literally try to blindside her with an attack out of nowhere and she reacted to said attack. He even was surprised that she reacted to said attack. This was again when she was exhausted bcs she just got finished with Youko. I can compare it bcs he legit was surprised at her reacting to his attack, Selene on the other hand was just playing with Suzaku so he doesn't scale to her full speed either way. He could barely keep up with her baby attacks lol.

What? Selene was hyped, but we don't go off hype alone. Suzaku did nothing visually impressive and Selene looked like an utter joke bcs of it. We have to wait to see if he actually beat her or not, but he only got that last hit in bcs she literally was toying with him the entire time.

I don't exactly see what this had any to do with her being stronger than Acno which she is absolutely not lol.

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Until this whole ordeal is over and we know for a fact nothing weird is going on (something obviously is, Suzaku went from "can't slay Dragon" to slicing into Selene ffs) let's not get worked up.

This.

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Suzaku just blitzes. Irene has no defense.

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#48  Edited By GrandTOAA

@jdogg: I have always said Acnologia is still the strongest character in the entire series. You are the one who I believe said Dragon gods are above him or so, and the emperor dude apparently thinks Irene can beat him due to that little skirmish. She reacted to one attack, and got one shot in the next attack. Not even Irene could do that. Yes, Selene was toying with Suzaku after she got serious, after he cut her cheek, as everyone expected. Doesn't change the fact she got blitz and one shot with an attack he created on his own. I find it funny how you all are suddenly jumping down the Selene hype train cuz she was one shot, when I remember you specifically and some others, claimed she basically cleared the OPM verse.

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@jdogg: Okay I just checked to confirm the OPM statement and though lots of people said that, you weren't one of them. Ma bad

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