Poll Irene Belserion (Fairy Tail) vs Sannin (Naruto) (52 votes)
Rules :
- Morals OFF
- Each of the trio are at their peak
- Jiraya starts the fight in Sage mode
- Orochimaru can use Edo Tensei mid-battle if needed
Who wins and why ??
Rules :
- Morals OFF
- Each of the trio are at their peak
- Jiraya starts the fight in Sage mode
- Orochimaru can use Edo Tensei mid-battle if needed
Who wins and why ??
not much of a fight, Irene is pretty much Demi God tier in FT only bellow the likes of Acnologia and Dragon gods.
Sanin in FT are barely Mid tier in FT about the same level as Pre time skip Laxus/Erza
Jiraiya blitzes and turns her into a frog, Genjutsu her to death or Orochimaru just summons a squad of Edos.
Also Orochimaru can turn into White Snake. His blood is poisoned, and after that he absorbs her and steal his body.
Sannin have also perfect teamwork.
Ot. Equalize the battleground or Irene can't even use a single spell.
@high_pressure: Sannin aren’t blitzing and when has Jiraiya turned anyone into a frog?
Orochimaru gets his chakra extracted out of him before he can even try
1• Jiraiya and Orochimaru are surely gonna blitz her to oblivion, at their peak, remember? Orochimaru was easily deflecting photon beams in Naruto Hiden. Irene is stuck in the lightning speed department, at best. And this only if you equalize the battleground.
2• Jiraiya turned a Rain Village Shinobi into a frog at the beginning of Pain arc.
3• now who is inventing shit? Irene extracting a power system she doesn't know, in a world where ethernanos are not present so she is completely powerless. Also Shinobi creates chakra at will so that move would be a waste regardless LOL.
4• Irene would have troubles at defeating the storm of clones and body substitution jutsu the Sannin will throw at her while casting Frog Song Genjutsu from a hidden spot. GG
@high_pressure: Scan of Orochimaru deflecting photon beams. Same with Jiraiya turning into frog. That I don’t remember m
Chakra’s not much different than FT Magic, both being life energy. Irene’s ghost whose only a fraction of her normal power allowed Wendy to extract all the Magic out of that spider Dragon Slayer Nebaru.
Plus when she was alive, she was able to extract the infinite magic of Fairy Heart out of Mavis
1• i'm on phone. Surely you can find it on your own. I told you when and where those feats happened
2• magic is made up with ethernano particles that are only present in earthland and elentir. In a world without ethernano particles mages are powerless and their stats are downgraded to hell, like in Edolas. Chakra is made with spiritual energy and life energy. They don't require battleground equal. because every trained Naruto characters can create chakra at will. They can also use pure nature energy to boost and combine spiritual and life energy. Senjutsu.
3• she got trolled by a simple mirage illusion LOL. She wasn't extracting anything
@high_pressure: Yeah I found it. Orochimaru dodged a laser of an unknown source. Wasn’t specified to be light speed or something specific to real life such as an electron beam to call that light speed. Loads of fiction as would be called light speed off dodging the same magic lasers, including Fairy Tail with Natsu dodging Sting’s attack explicitly called a laser too.
Yes and? Chakra in Naruto comes from some space alien fruit. Still life energy and fills the same purpose as magic in FT enough to call them comparable. If we’re going to be this stingy, since chakra is such a specific energy source to the Naruto verse and Genjutsu involves manipulating the victims chakra and chakra network, Genjutsu works on no one outside the Naruto verse.
?? Irene extracted Mavis’ Fairy Heart and Wendy took all the Dragon slayer magic out of a mutating Nebaru through Irene’s power. Enough to reverse his Dragonification and leave him powerless in one shot
Irene Stomps, she has casual firepower that can oneshot the sannins and the frog song isn't instant (she could also arguably simply negate the genjutsu with her body anomaly canceling spell). She also face tanked (literally face tanked), a swing from Erza in human form so there's nothing the Sannin can do to hurt her, they are at best in the casual mountain range and she's comfortably above island busting bare minimum.
Edo Tensei is also not an option: not only it isn't that fast to cast, it also needs sacrifices to work so it needs prep-time.
@astaro: it's not the same thing. Chakra is generated by the body. Hence why they can use it other dimensions and why draining/ overusing it completely is fatal.
Magic is absorbed from and is consequently dependent on the environment. Hence why going to edolas merely depowers them and elentir amps them.
@edgelord91: Whatever, chakra doesn’t exist outside the Naruto verse as it’s not even really life energy. Thus Genjutsu is moot with no chakra in Irene to manipulate
@astaro: ah okay
Irene solos Narutoverse. Crazy mismatch.
lmao in her dreams
@edgelord91: How do you explain Selene using magic in a place with no ethernano? Or the DS using magic in the Ravines a Time or Natsu using magic in space? All these place wouldn't have Ethernano which means they should be "powerless" yet they weren't. It was only in edolas that they lost their ability to use magic and they could still use it after they took an x-ball which had nothing to do with replenishing their magic, but allowing them use it while in Edolas.
Anyone using they can't use magic outside of their verse as an actual argument is a joke. By that logic no one can since they haven't proven it.
OT: Irene oneshots these fodders
@high_pressure: Yeah I found it. Orochimaru dodged a laser of an unknown source. Wasn’t specified to be light speed or something specific to real life such as an electron beam to call that light speed. Loads of fiction as would be called light speed off dodging the same magic lasers, including Fairy Tail with Natsu dodging Sting’s attack explicitly called a laser too.
yh I agree Irene wins but please dont be acting ignorant. it said its a photon gun and photon beam, and photon moves at LS.
Yes and? Chakra in Naruto comes from some space alien fruit. Still life energy and fills the same purpose as magic in FT enough to call them comparable. If we’re going to be this stingy, since chakra is such a specific energy source to the Naruto verse and Genjutsu involves manipulating the victims chakra and chakra network, Genjutsu works on no one outside the Naruto verse.
lol no, no where in naruto does it say chakra is needed/is a must for genjutsu to work (now im gonna watch u bring in Jiraya's statement just to misinterpret it in ur headcannon wordings), its a known fact, thats why no one uses that counter argument anymore lol
@epicprince: bruh I looked up two different English trans of that novel and neither of them had that orochi dodging photon situation. That shit ain't real. But if u want to claim it's real tell what page and what happens before and after that moment. I legit searched for it.
Everytime genjutsu has been used it's been on something with chakra lol. Chakra is necessary for genjutsu.
@epicprince: Yup that is exactly what I’m going by. Feel free to say how Genjutsu doesn’t involve messing with internal chakra
Saw no mention of Orochimaru dodging a photon beam, just a laser of unknown nature
@edgelord91: How do you explain Selene using magic in a place with no ethernano? Or the DS using magic in the Ravines a Time or Natsu using magic in space? All these place wouldn't have Ethernano which means they should be "powerless" yet they weren't. It was only in edolas that they lost their ability to use magic and they could still use it after they took an x-ball which had nothing to do with replenishing their magic, but allowing them use it while in Edolas.
Anyone using they can't use magic outside of their verse as an actual argument is a joke. By that logic no one can since they haven't proven it.
OT: Irene oneshots these fodders
This, basically. And on top of all that, the exeeds using magic in edolas without x-balls suggests that it's more like a "the air in the mountain sure is thin" type of situation than a real limitation.
If the mages couldn't ever use magic in edolas the x-balls wouldn't work, they are medicine not a super power, the people of edolas can't use x-balls to acquire magic, they still need lacrimas.
Happy and Carla couldn't use magic seconds after they arrived to edolas the 2 times they got there but they later can use magic without outside help, in the first place if it was so simple as they can't use magic because there's none to replenish they would've used it until they reserves ran out, not stop immediately.
Ignoring everything, is really in bad faith to say a character loses because there's no ethernano in the air, and if you want to be petty and difficult (in response to others being petty and difficult), there's also no proof that any verse lacks ethernano apart from edolas. You can only say with certainty that ethernano is either not known or is called by a different name XD.
@jdogg: it's honestly an inconsistent plot point. Just explaining why people bring it up
Edit - also edolas is the only one of those stated to not have ethernano
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