Irene and August have been sent by their lord and savior Zeref to defeat arriving opponents one by one.
R1: R2 Ulquoirra
R2: Ichimaru Gin
R3: Bambietta
R4: Shunsui Kyoraku
R5: Adult Hitsugaya
Irene and August (Fairy Tail) run a Bleach gauntlet
@marc_55 said:
@thecrystalball: What powerscale? Just because Bambi came later doesn't mean she's above Ulqui or Gin.
In the powerscale where she was the leader of Meninas, Liltotto, Candice and Giselle. Meninas alone was throwing Ichigo and Kenpachi around while Liltotto was stated to be stronger than her or Candice (when Byakua killed Candice).
The fact that Bambietta was taken out by an immortal and her ability bypasses durability also does not work against her in the slightest.
renji never surpassed aizen, he did not even surpass Shunsui nor did he surpass the Zero Guards either.
Yh Ik and that's because they are waaay above Aizen's previous power. You should also note Unohana's words to Ichigo: "don't you know that you and I have similar spirit energy". The dude 5× stronger than that couldn't match what sealed Kenny was doing to Yammy then he got terribly large boosts that makes that power look like absolutely nothing at all and still got kilked a bunch of times by shikai Unohana very casually. Then we have the head captain in shikai sending some half assed flames and nearly oneshotting a dude equal to a guy who could sense people in the 3rd tier (something monster Aizen was too weak to do). So doesn't all this tell you that the senior captains and also Chojiro were sealed somehow?
Ichigo is quite different than normal transcendents atleast during the Blood war arc, Aizen fused with his swords in all Forms and so did Dangai ichigo but War ichigo did not.
So you're mentioning the state of a fake Zanpakuto rather than spirit energy which had far surpassed that level in just base?
There are three known reiatsu tiers and two transition tiers. No one in tier 1 can sense tier 2 unless they are in that "transition range" which includes FKT bankai Ichigo and the pre-trained TYBW arc lieutenants. These people can sense anyone in tier two but can't sense tier three, just like Monster Aizen (not that they are that powerful or anything). Same goes for tier 2, they need to be in the transition range to sense tier 3. That's how transcendency works in Bleach, it's not simply a difference in power. The high tiers such as Bazz-b and above are in the transition range between 2 and 3 which equates to power above monster Aizen. That's the whole reason why there wasn't much issue about trancendency in that arc because they should have all been trancendents, atleast low tier trancendents but even the weakest of them were still powerful enough to sense everyone except those of the 3rd tier which may only include those SK level and above. Uryu, Yama, and Hascwalth and the high priest may be included.
fairy tail teams 100% stops at Shunsui but even before that the numbers are messed up, Ulquiorra > Gin, atleast in his 2nd form he is even Ishida mentioned that he has never felt so much spiritual power ever and the dude had sense Captains in SS fight.
Ulquiorra is nowhere near Gin's power. When the hollow possess Ichigo, it's baisically the same as when Ichigo uses his mask. It was so much different in this case because Ichigo got an incredible power boost and White was the first to use it. Just to show how incredibly stronger Ichigo got, he could wound Yammy, bearer of the second strongest hierro and also posesses the highest reiatsu among the espada. From Grimmjow to Ulquiorra was a huge jump in power and Ulquiorra to Yammy should be two times as much. Before he couldn't injure Ulquiorra with a fully cloaked getsuga and based on my assessment, VL Ichigo is still Ichigo's power, the difference with the mask is that it doesn't merge completely. He can get the full reiatsu boost and a small physical strength boost, but without the form Zangetsu demonstrated, he doesn't have that insane lifting power and access to sonido or techniques like gran rey but still, his vizard mask is the hollow power and it possesses equal reiatsu to the entity that fought Ulquiorra. So pay attention to the details.
The mask is a 5× boost in reiatsu, while the bankai is a 10× boost but not even a quarter of the cloak remains which means at this point, he's only atmost 10× above the strength of what his increased shikai should have (half the cloak is 5× boost and half of that is 2.5× but the cloak is even less than that). Meaning his increased fully cloaked bankai alone would have power comparable to this. Gin had no issues crossing blades with Bankai Ichigo while only using his shikai. This means shikai Gin should already be stomping Ulquiorra the same way VL Ichigo was, then his bankai widens the already wide gap as much as 10× more.
Btw SS arc captains cap out at the level Ichigo was at when Grimmjow gave him the paw. These captains trained endlessly and acquired far greater power and he wasn't necessarily dumbfounded by the power of Ulquiorra's reiatsu. When arrancars use their 'returning blade' their reiatsu transforms, Ulquiorra's reiatsu transformed into something different from all the other espadas. Sure he's still weaker than a few of them but his reiatsu wouldn't resemble thiers: Ulquiorra to Ichigo- "he feels like one of us". People wouldn't say the same about R2 Ulquiorra because that should have a different type of feeling, just like the way people can distinguish between an arrancar and a Vasto Lorde, despite having virtually equal reiatsu.
You should really try scaling sometimes, it clears up alot.
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