Round 1: H2H, morals on
Round 2: H2H, morals off
Round 3: Sword fight
Who wins and why?
Guess no one watched the movies before.
I've seen the Ip Man movies.. Not sure if I've seen Huo Yuanjia.. Probably have but can't remember.
Edit: Yeah, I haven't seen the Jet Li movie (Fearless)
Watching it now so I'm probably gonna comment later on :P
Hou Younjia would win all three in my opinion. The movie version of him has better strength feats and he is about equal in speed to Ip Man. I would say Round 1 is very close with Hou Younjia winning 6/10. Round 2 is when Hou Younjia has the opportunity to really shine as he would not need to limit himself to non-lethal strikes, so 7/10 for Round 2. Ip Man does not have anywhere the same weapon feats as Hou Younjia and so most likely loses Round 3, 9/10 times. By the way Fearless is one of my top ten favorite movies of all time.
Not sure which version you are watching but if I may include a deleted scene from the directors cut showcasing the durability of Hou Younjia.Loading Video...
Lol yeah, watched 7 more minutes of it, I think Ip Man is generally stronger but Huo has better striking power.
And I'm watching the Director's Cut version.
Surely you have seen the scene where Hou smashes the 30cm thick wooden column in his school with one puch, and the scene where he punches a guy so hard that his fist practically goes through him? I hope I did not spoil anything. If you would care to remind me since I have not seen Ip Man in a while, what feats does he have to equal that level of strength?
it is 37 minutes into the first video, the column smashing that is.
@TotalBalance: Yeah I know what you're talking about, and as much as I want Ip Man to win(because I prefer Donnie Yen to Jet Li), The Yuanja from the movie was way too unrealistic. He takes this.
Their speed is on par but Ip Man fights faster (I don't know how to put it, hope you understood what I meant by that) seems to me Ip Man is better at predicting and counter-reacting.
That said, Fearless makes Ip Man look like a soap opera with how unrealistic it is :D
@RudeBomberBoy01: It said Movie versions so based on what I knew of them I just gave Hou the win due to the vastly superior strength feats. Also as someone who has studied Kung-Fu for numerous years I am always critical of how Wing-Chun is so highly portrayed. It looks flashy and fast but most of it's stances lack mobility and can't be used to deliver as powerful strikes, however machine gun punching looks good so it gets to the screens.
@TotalBalance: Yeah, I know it says movie versions, I was merely pointing out how unrealistic Fearless was compared to Ip Man though both movies were unrealistic The stunts performed in the Ip Man movies looked more believable. Fearless on the other hand was a tiny bit over the top.
And I understand what you meant by Wing-Chun lacking mobility. They don't move around much, they predict and counter as opposed to aggressive Wushu.
Anyways movie Huo takes this quite handily because he was moving like an anime character :D
The movie's awesome btw!! highly recommended for those who haven't seen it yet.
@RudeBomberBoy01: The movie is great. The fencing scene between Hou and the Spaniard at the end though is pure art. The swordplay is simply magnificently beautiful. I wish that scene would have been at least 10 minutes but alas one can only dream.
Every style of Kung-Fu attempts to predict and counter your opponent, however Wing-Chun is designed more to counter quickly than to counter powerfully. One must remember that it was invented by a woman so it places a much lower emphasis on power than some other styles. Other things I don't like about Wing-Chun is a lot of the time they seem to carry their center of gravity too high as well as move in too linear a fashion, though this may just be a problem with the practitioners I have seen as opposed to the art as a whole. Personally I think Wing-Chun is like a less effective method of western boxing whose only saving grace is that it also incorporates kicks (albeit tends to under utilize them). That is just my personal opinion though.
Hey, I'm still watching the movie, I'm at least 55% through it now. I'm at the bit where the little boy (Gui) steals a bull and Huo had to go save him lol
Wing-Chun isn't about power, I think it's heavily focused on reaction; how fast you can think and react to your opponents strikes, though their mobility is piss poor! I'm not an expert on this but judging from the Ip Man movies, most of the fights Donnie got into were of him waiting and countering his opponents, instead of screaming like a super saiyan and flying around like Huo seems to be doing :D
I taking ip man first 2rounds Huo the third..ip man 2 showcased what he can do to vastly stronger opponents,,targeted strikes to his nerve points on his arms eliminate Huo's weapons and handicap him big time....wing Chun was developed by a women to quickly debilitate and disable male attackers,,,when applied correctly it is very dangerous and quickly stops enemies
Ip Man all rounds. He took on multiple Japanese martial artists in the first movie and managed to nearly kill each of them.
- Ip Man
- Ip Man
- Huo Yuan Jia (Ip Man doesn't fight with swords)
Ip Man is a master of wing chun. By default, sword play is among the things they master. They use the same principle applied in their hand forms and wrist movements when they fight with weapons. It treat as an extension of their arms. Not to mention, the butterfly sword is a standard weapon in wing chun and as is the long pole. You learn it as part of the training.
Round 1. Ipman. He's shown himself to be able to toy grandmasters.
Round 2. Ip Man. Wing Chung used with bloodlust is something that Hou's style cannot defend against.
Particularly because the fighting styles of the two don't match. Though excellent Hou is, Wing Chung will be most effective against Hou's style.
Round 3. Hou's skill with weaponry is just nothing short of beautiful.
Alright now that I've seen Fearless I've seen that these two are extremely similar.
They are roughly comparable, and Huo has more striking power (especially when he's mad and killed that other master), but Ip Man is a lot more quick with his ferocious blows. However, Ip Man has displayed slightly more durability by tanking Twister's tough shots, who was more impressive than the boxer Huo defeated.
I say Ip Man takes it 6/10
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