Insane Genis Vell vs Doomsday Clock Doctor Manhattan

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Battle is on the moon

Morals are normal for Jon and are off (like in Mad God saga) for Genis.

Permanent BFR allowed

Genis Vell gets his New Thunderbolts Photon/Mad God Captain Marvel feats

Doctor Manhattan gets his Doomsday Clock feats

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Dr Manhattan solos Marvel

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#4  Edited By destinyman75

Doomsday clock while good is way overwanked already saw a thread debunked

But not sure who wins here

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@destinyman75: yeah I’ve seen a ****ton of them and while I have no doubt Manhattan was impressive, I had to put him against Genis to see if he can walk the walk.

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Both characters are very similar, with great feats and obviously impressive scale. I just wonder if Manhattan can withstand Genis, and if Genis is on par with Manhattan.

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@supermanwithatan01: Yeah very true.

Also the bottom line Doomsday clock just shows that Clark is Hope Clark never got an upgrade so... Manhattan can see future past etc...Don't know against veill

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@destinyman75: I’m still confused as to why I saw so many threads spamming the scan of Mxyzptlk being frightened of Dr. Manhattan. Jon is powerful I’m sure but I have no idea what he did that could possibly matter to Mxyzptlk.

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Yeah, the Mxy thing is overblown. Mxy was afraid because he got trapped once. We have seen Mxy being afraid of World Forger. If Mxy was so afraid of Jon then he wouldn't have gone for Superman.

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@supermanwithatan01: True it's always a context Issue

Exactly.

Yeah, the Mxy thing is overblown. Mxy was afraid because he got trapped once. We have seen Mxy being afraid of World Forger. If Mxy was so afraid of Jon then he wouldn't have gone for Superman.

Agreed.

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Jon

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@tensor said:

Jon

Any particular reason? I'm very familiar with Genis but not so much with Doctor Manhattan.

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Genis Vell:

  • Survived destruction of the multiverse (which, incidentally, he caused)
  • Killed (the Multiversal being) Eternity. It should be noted that (Multiversal being) Eternity wanted to to die, and did allow Entropy and Genis Vell to "bind him". This is still tremendously impressive for 2 reasons: 1) Entropy needed Genis to do this because he had the power output to kill such a ridiculously powerful being, and 2) after Genis created the "new big bag", he survived the destruction and recreation of the multiverse.
  • In the New Thunderbolts run it was determined that he would destroy the universe, every reality, every eventuality
  • Has the most potent cosmic awareness I've seen in comics, essentially grants him the ability to just "know things" to see every eventuality, and more all across the multiverse. This ability allows him to see every potential option he or his opponent has
  • Before he went completely insane he easily 1-shotted a Storm Giant that Odin feared and would have laid waste to all of Asgard
  • Exists in the past present and future (same as Doc Manhattan)
  • Can time travel forward and backwards (Doc can't do this iirc, unless it's a new ability)
  • Can resurrect himself because "energy can’t be destroyed"
  • Can resurrect others
  • Has Omniversal telepathy
  • He was able to force Moondragon (with the mind stone) from his mind and literally overloaded the Magus' mind
  • Can hand wave open portals to other dimensions in both time and space including the Nth dimension where characters powers don't exist (iirc).
  • One of his most impressive feats was "collapsing" the HoM reality warp (Wandas) before putting it back. He explains he let things continue because he doesn't want to interfere or change things because it always hurts people (he was sane for this feat). It stands to reason (as that was arguably the most powerful warp in Marvel comic's history) that Genis could "unwarp" whatever he wanted
  • Genis defeated the Kree-Shi'ar-Skrull alliance by manipulating the electrical impulses in their brains, killing them all just by altering their thoughts to convince them that they were dead
  • Was only ever BFR'd/defeated as Photon, when he refused to lose his new found morals and was asking for the heroes to give him a chance, when they took this moment to freeze him in time and spread him across time through-out the rest of the multiverse (also PIS lol)

Theres quite a bit more but thats all just off the top of my head, hopefully it helps a bit.

Doctor Manhattan (Doomsday Clock):

  • Altered the DC multiverse by affecting the single original universe known as "the metaverse"
  • Hand-waved down legions of both heroes and villains
  • If you PM me some feats I'll add them in here

I am limited in my knowledge of Jon.

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I don't see Manhattan winning

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What are this Manhattan's feats?

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#28 thebeyonder1  Online

genesis

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Manhattan.

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Genis wins low-diff

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Genis stomps