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#1  Edited By mysticmedivh

Injustice Superman (no Ring)

vs.

  • Grey Hulk
  • Quicksilver
  • War Machine
  • Luke Cage
  • Iron Fist
  • Colossus
  • Rhino
  • Lizard
  • Mr. Fantastic
  • Mantis
  • Groot
  • Carnage
  • Warpath
  • Gorgon
  • Namor
  • She-Hulk
  • Venom
  • Sebastian Shaw
  • Gamora
  • Wolverine
  • Thing
  • Morlun

Rules

  • Win by any means possible.
  • Battle takes place in a generic city.
  • Earth-616 versions.
  • Marvel Team is morals off.
  • Marvel Team has perfect teamwork.
  • Marvel Team has full knowledge.

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Probably team Marvel

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Team overwhelms him but takes casualties. Mantis TPS in the end.

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#5  Edited By NewWorldOrder

Injustice Superman

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So many in the team are fodder tbh. But Groot, Grey Hulk, QS, Thing, She-Hulk, Namor, War Machine and Colossus could win if they can get around his speed.

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Everyone works together to hold Superman down, then Wolverine cuts his head off.

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@psychobear01: But then fails, because Wolverine can't cut through Superman's skin.

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didnt injustice superman have an insane speed feat?

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Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

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@psychobear01: @blackestnight93: Adamantium is indestuctable and can cut through anything, but it does not grant the user the ability to pierce through anything. Basically Wolverine lacks strength (like how a sword can cut through a steel pipe when used by a samurai but if a kid tries to do the same thing the sword just bounces off).

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@comic_book_fan: The force behind his swing is that of a street leveler. He cut Hulk and Thor as well, but his high tier showings are too inconsistant (also Spider-Man's kick knocked Thanos back), not getting into that though.

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@major_hellstorm: and a simple punch from batman turned superman's head everyone has low showings but generally thanos gladiator and thor have superman level durability.

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@comic_book_fan: I kmow, I am saying Logan logically should not have even been able to do those things otherwise all his villains would be less than fodder and he would by above 10 tons.

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Given Superman doesn't know Venom's weaknesses. Couldn't Venom just taunt Superman and take all of the hits for everyone else without taking damage while Reed figures out how to beat Superman?

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Mantis drops via TP

Gamora/Wolverine duo drops him by pressure points while joe fixit distracts him.

@psychobear01: But then fails, because Wolverine can't cut through Superman's skin.

Wolverine can cut through anything except primary adamantium, shields and super-stretchy skin.

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Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

Some arguments have been made for the team.

Do these change your thoughts? Does Supes still win?

Just trying to get some discussion going.

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@apex_pretador: Not getting into that debate. But as I said he technicaly *can* but logically his strength would not allow it.

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@apex_pretador: Not getting into that debate. But as I said he technicaly *can* but logically his strength would not allow it.

Logically or technically, his feats show him:

  • Cutting clean through hulk
  • Claws going through gladiator
  • Gutted thor pretty bad
  • Sliced the face of the thing

etc.

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@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

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@wf_mxyzptlk said:

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

Some arguments have been made for the team.

Do these change your thoughts? Does Supes still win?

Just trying to get some discussion going.

He's MFTL. From what I know about the members of this team, that by itself disqualifies them.

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@mysticmedivh said:
@wf_mxyzptlk said:

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

He's MFTL. From what I know about the members of this team, that by itself disqualifies them.

Flight speed, yeah.

But he doesn't blitz everyone into a paste.

Like in his encounters with Batman he usually does a lot of talking and once he does fight him they exchange blows at well below FTL speeds.

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@tedirey said:

@mysticmedivh:

The only way I see Marvel team winning is if they have prep or they have that Kryptonian pill which makes them Superman-like.

And the thread says wins by any means possible so Supes might just do that worldwide superspeed killblitz he did against the Parademons which is MFTL.

Win by any means possible does not mean instantly go for the kill or that the characters will use the cheapest and fastest trick to win. It's just another way of saying win by death, K.O., BFR, etc.

Combatants are still in-character and would behave as they normally would in a comic book setting.

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The hell has Injustice Superman done to make him stomp this team? He is all over the place in feats getting shitstomped by Batmans battler when he ate pills.

He is not MFTL outside of travel speed.

Groot and Grey Hulk are enough unless someone shows me otherwise.

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@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

Not only are more than half of those things not PIS because they are either non-canon or are missing context you haven't mentioned.

You are using false equivalence. Wolverine has stabbed pretty much everyone and was almost always able to stab Hulk, even stabbed Thanos once, so it's not PIS when it happens on a consistent basis, you also haven't explained WHY it would be PIS for someone with a indestructible and super sharp metal to pierce someones skin.

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@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

  • PIS
  • Thanos only weights half ton
  • Superman only weights 100 kg
  • Crossover decided by votes, and non canon
  • A big low showing for hulk, and classic hulk was much weaker than modern hulk. Also scans needed to show he actually harmed him.

Logan has cut everything except forcefields, primary adamantium and stretchy skin. EVERYTHING.

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@atheistknowledge: I already said I did not want to say anymore and that I wasn't getting into this. But even WBN can cut through Hulk's skin, just because something is non-canon does not mean it is not PIS, just because something can't break and is super sharp, does not make it magic and grants the user mega swing and thrusting strength when they can't even lift two tabks.

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@apex_pretador: I know it is PIS.

And so? He no sold stronger blows.

And so? He no sold stronger blows.

Doesn't matter, still PIS.

It was more than once.

You took away forcefields and stretching skin, but logacally speaking that makes no sense, if he can cut through a person who can fly through stars then he should be able to cut through everything inclduing forcefields, not only that but since it's the sharpness doing the cutting appearantly, then whatever he blocks using the claws should be sliced as well (also just touching a titanium plate should slicd it in clean half). He has cut through everything because he mostly jas consistant showing *mostly* but his PIS fights with high tiers change that, and I do not mean Hulk, his cutting resistance is weaker than Thor's.

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@tedirey: Only thing I can think of in the top of my head is WW's tiara.

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@atheistknowledge: I already said I did not want to say anymore and that I wasn't getting into this. But even WBN can cut through Hulk's skin, just because something is non-canon does not mean it is not PIS, just because something can't break and is super sharp, does not make it magic and grants the user mega swing and thrusting strength when they can't even lift two tabks.

Whether something is PIS or not PIS in non-canon is irrelevant, since writers especially go out their way to write things differently in non-canon material without having to worry about continuity or it making much sense it's why you have guys like Deadpool and Punisher killing the entire Marvel universe in non-canon, something that would never happen in canon.

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@tedirey said:

@apex_pretador: @major_hellstorm:

The only way to settle this is who has cut Injustice Superman or mainstream Supes before? Magic and Kryptonite doesn't count since Wolverine's claws is neither.

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@tedirey said:

Injustice Superman is deadlier and kills. He could kill everyone here in a nanosecond.

But Injustice Superman has no nanosecond feats. Other than travel speed.

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@atheistknowledge: Well, at least they explain how.

I have the scans of the Supes being faster than thought, hold on a sec.

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