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#1 Edited by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

Injustice Superman (no Ring)

vs.

  • Grey Hulk
  • Quicksilver
  • War Machine
  • Luke Cage
  • Iron Fist
  • Colossus
  • Rhino
  • Lizard
  • Mr. Fantastic
  • Mantis
  • Groot
  • Carnage
  • Warpath
  • Gorgon
  • Namor
  • She-Hulk
  • Venom
  • Sebastian Shaw
  • Gamora
  • Wolverine
  • Thing
  • Morlun

Rules

  • Win by any means possible.
  • Battle takes place in a generic city.
  • Earth-616 versions.
  • Marvel Team is morals off.
  • Marvel Team has perfect teamwork.
  • Marvel Team has full knowledge.

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#2 Posted by deactivated-5a2b0053414c5 (8165 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably team Marvel

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#3 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

Team overwhelms him but takes casualties. Mantis TPS in the end.

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#5 Edited by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Injustice Superman

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#6 Edited by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

So many in the team are fodder tbh. But Groot, Grey Hulk, QS, Thing, She-Hulk, Namor, War Machine and Colossus could win if they can get around his speed.

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#7 Posted by PsychoBear01 (221 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone works together to hold Superman down, then Wolverine cuts his head off.

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#8 Posted by Vertigo- (17679 posts) - - Show Bio

Injusticeman

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#9 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@psychobear01: But then fails, because Wolverine can't cut through Superman's skin.

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#10 Posted by pansito (1203 posts) - - Show Bio

didnt injustice superman have an insane speed feat?

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#11 Posted by WF_Mxyzptlk (6794 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

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#12 Posted by PsychoBear01 (221 posts) - - Show Bio
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#14 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@psychobear01: @blackestnight93: Adamantium is indestuctable and can cut through anything, but it does not grant the user the ability to pierce through anything. Basically Wolverine lacks strength (like how a sword can cut through a steel pipe when used by a samurai but if a kid tries to do the same thing the sword just bounces off).

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#16 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan: The force behind his swing is that of a street leveler. He cut Hulk and Thor as well, but his high tier showings are too inconsistant (also Spider-Man's kick knocked Thanos back), not getting into that though.

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#18 Posted by comic_book_fan (11191 posts) - - Show Bio

@major_hellstorm: and a simple punch from batman turned superman's head everyone has low showings but generally thanos gladiator and thor have superman level durability.

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#19 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan: I kmow, I am saying Logan logically should not have even been able to do those things otherwise all his villains would be less than fodder and he would by above 10 tons.

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#20 Posted by Lord-Parallax (4503 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by PsychoBear01 (221 posts) - - Show Bio

Given Superman doesn't know Venom's weaknesses. Couldn't Venom just taunt Superman and take all of the hits for everyone else without taking damage while Reed figures out how to beat Superman?

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#22 Posted by APEX_pretador (19640 posts) - - Show Bio

Mantis drops via TP

Gamora/Wolverine duo drops him by pressure points while joe fixit distracts him.

@psychobear01: But then fails, because Wolverine can't cut through Superman's skin.

Wolverine can cut through anything except primary adamantium, shields and super-stretchy skin.

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#23 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

Some arguments have been made for the team.

Do these change your thoughts? Does Supes still win?

Just trying to get some discussion going.

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#24 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

Injustice Superman is deadlier and kills. He could kill everyone here in a nanosecond.

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#25 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: Not getting into that debate. But as I said he technicaly *can* but logically his strength would not allow it.

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#26 Edited by APEX_pretador (19640 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: Not getting into that debate. But as I said he technicaly *can* but logically his strength would not allow it.

Logically or technically, his feats show him:

  • Cutting clean through hulk
  • Claws going through gladiator
  • Gutted thor pretty bad
  • Sliced the face of the thing

etc.

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#27 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

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#28 Posted by WF_Mxyzptlk (6794 posts) - - Show Bio

@wf_mxyzptlk said:

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

Some arguments have been made for the team.

Do these change your thoughts? Does Supes still win?

Just trying to get some discussion going.

He's MFTL. From what I know about the members of this team, that by itself disqualifies them.

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#29 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio
@mysticmedivh said:
@wf_mxyzptlk said:

Mismatch. Injusticeman is super underrated.

He's MFTL. From what I know about the members of this team, that by itself disqualifies them.

Flight speed, yeah.

But he doesn't blitz everyone into a paste.

Like in his encounters with Batman he usually does a lot of talking and once he does fight him they exchange blows at well below FTL speeds.

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#30 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh:

The only way I see Marvel team winning is if they have prep or they have that Kryptonian pill which makes them Superman-like.

And the thread says wins by any means possible so Supes might just do that worldwide superspeed killblitz he did against the Parademons which is MFTL.

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#31 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey said:

@mysticmedivh:

The only way I see Marvel team winning is if they have prep or they have that Kryptonian pill which makes them Superman-like.

And the thread says wins by any means possible so Supes might just do that worldwide superspeed killblitz he did against the Parademons which is MFTL.

Win by any means possible does not mean instantly go for the kill or that the characters will use the cheapest and fastest trick to win. It's just another way of saying win by death, K.O., BFR, etc.

Combatants are still in-character and would behave as they normally would in a comic book setting.

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#32 Edited by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh:

And in-character means Injustice Supes would kill them.

Normal Supes would struggle and has more possibility of losing in this scenario.

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#33 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

The hell has Injustice Superman done to make him stomp this team? He is all over the place in feats getting shitstomped by Batmans battler when he ate pills.

He is not MFTL outside of travel speed.

Groot and Grey Hulk are enough unless someone shows me otherwise.

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#34 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

Not only are more than half of those things not PIS because they are either non-canon or are missing context you haven't mentioned.

You are using false equivalence. Wolverine has stabbed pretty much everyone and was almost always able to stab Hulk, even stabbed Thanos once, so it's not PIS when it happens on a consistent basis, you also haven't explained WHY it would be PIS for someone with a indestructible and super sharp metal to pierce someones skin.

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#35 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge:

Superman is faster than thought. He is much faster than Green Lanterns can think.

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#36 Posted by APEX_pretador (19640 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: I can list a bunch of PIS Spider-Man strength feats as well.

Beating Firelord.

Knocking Thanos back.

Knocking Superman back.

Beating Superboy.

Hurting Hulk.

Anyway, that is all I want to say.

  • PIS
  • Thanos only weights half ton
  • Superman only weights 100 kg
  • Crossover decided by votes, and non canon
  • A big low showing for hulk, and classic hulk was much weaker than modern hulk. Also scans needed to show he actually harmed him.

Logan has cut everything except forcefields, primary adamantium and stretchy skin. EVERYTHING.

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#37 Edited by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's some of Injustice Superman feats.

https://m.vk.com/topic-85387417_31457781

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#38 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: I already said I did not want to say anymore and that I wasn't getting into this. But even WBN can cut through Hulk's skin, just because something is non-canon does not mean it is not PIS, just because something can't break and is super sharp, does not make it magic and grants the user mega swing and thrusting strength when they can't even lift two tabks.

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#39 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: I know it is PIS.

And so? He no sold stronger blows.

And so? He no sold stronger blows.

Doesn't matter, still PIS.

It was more than once.

You took away forcefields and stretching skin, but logacally speaking that makes no sense, if he can cut through a person who can fly through stars then he should be able to cut through everything inclduing forcefields, not only that but since it's the sharpness doing the cutting appearantly, then whatever he blocks using the claws should be sliced as well (also just touching a titanium plate should slicd it in clean half). He has cut through everything because he mostly jas consistant showing *mostly* but his PIS fights with high tiers change that, and I do not mean Hulk, his cutting resistance is weaker than Thor's.

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#40 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: @major_hellstorm:

The only way to settle this is who has cut Injustice Superman or mainstream Supes before? Magic and Kryptonite doesn't count since Wolverine's claws is neither.

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#41 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey: Only thing I can think of in the top of my head is WW's tiara.

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#42 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: I already said I did not want to say anymore and that I wasn't getting into this. But even WBN can cut through Hulk's skin, just because something is non-canon does not mean it is not PIS, just because something can't break and is super sharp, does not make it magic and grants the user mega swing and thrusting strength when they can't even lift two tabks.

Whether something is PIS or not PIS in non-canon is irrelevant, since writers especially go out their way to write things differently in non-canon material without having to worry about continuity or it making much sense it's why you have guys like Deadpool and Punisher killing the entire Marvel universe in non-canon, something that would never happen in canon.

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#43 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by APEX_pretador (19640 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey said:

@apex_pretador: @major_hellstorm:

The only way to settle this is who has cut Injustice Superman or mainstream Supes before? Magic and Kryptonite doesn't count since Wolverine's claws is neither.

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#46 Posted by Revan- (7959 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey said:

Injustice Superman is deadlier and kills. He could kill everyone here in a nanosecond.

But Injustice Superman has no nanosecond feats. Other than travel speed.

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#47 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17355 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: Well, at least they explain how.

I have the scans of the Supes being faster than thought, hold on a sec.

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#48 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@major_hellstorm:

While you're at it, post the speed feat scan where he killed all the Parademons worldwide.

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#50 Posted by Tedirey (2554 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge:

I think if you refresh it, it will give you the option to auto-translate.

Anyway, try this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3g7ewe/respect_superman_injustice/