Infinity Ultron vs Mori Jin

Rules:

Current Mori Jin

Location: Pluto

looooool

@pandalumina: What is the problem?

@omnireal: i think u know

@pandalumina: Seeing how Mori Jin gets treated now. I don't know.

Mori blitzes and destroys him

@higherpower: What level do you have Ultron at?

@higherpower: Jin is above universe+ level now?

Stop stop stop. I know you don’t like Mori is getting new great skill and power and hax feats but no need to veil yourself as a fan to make outrageous threads so mori gets a bad rep

@mismiley60: yeah mori is above universal Or at universal.

Ultron is multiversal by creator statements and feats.

@ecoblitz: Can you show Mori universal feat?

@ecoblitz:

Vultron isn't even universal by feats.

Stop the wank.

He's only galaxy level by feats and even then he was getting ragged dolled by a super soldier and regular human spy. A tweet is not a valid source for power scaling.

And if we are using in universe statements Mori has been universal since Ragnarok

@killianduclark: Ultron did retcon the universe with each punch. Also the team was plot protected and boosted

WI Ultron takes this.

@omnireal:

Where was this shown on screen?

All we see is him punching the watcher and their reality would change.

How is that any different from the previous times he punched watcher through different universes?

And no amount of plot protection should allow your vibranium clad multiversal being to get harmed by a USB arrow

@killianduclark: The scene literally slows down that each punch has the power to retcon the universe both space-time and even the people and building are on the same exact positio. Unless you bizarrely think "Look Ultron can teleport to different universes by punching The Watcher". Also the WoG also confirms the clear feat. Ultron being harmed by that is PIS. Unless you think Ultron has wall level durability while casually destroying a galaxy.

@omnireal: That guy probably thinks Watcher was only attacking Ultron with wall level attacks 🤣

@vegito315: Have the balls to tag the person you are trying to bad mouth

@killianduclark: except he on panel… destroyed universes and retconned them with punches. Nevermind the author straight up says he was reducing multiverses to soup the day the episode aired

@omnireal:

You are drawing conclusions with no evidence. A slowed down scene to emphasize the beat down Uatu was recieving is not evidence that Vultron is destroying universes.

It's visually no different than him punching him through universes. And I don't need to assume that's the case, we see it happen before hand that they are infact punch each other into different realities. There's no evidence that realities are destroyed in the process outside of an easily discountable tweet

@killianduclark: "A slowed down scene to emphasize the beat down Uatu was recieving is not evidence that Vultron is destroying universes"

That is your assumption with no evidence

"It's visually no different than him punching him through universes"

The scene shows the exact same people and building being retconned and it shows reality shattered like a glass sound. None of that happened when Ultron pushed Ultron through the universe and show me the evidence that Ultron can teleport by punching people.

@ecoblitz:

No. He doesn't

https://youtu.be/6WxSmBl2lW0

He explicitly states the boundaries of the multiverse are irrelevant to him as he is beating Uatu.

We also see crystalline cracks form, similar to how multiversal travel has been depicted in the MCU such as with America Chavez

@killianduclark: Have the balls to come back with an argument. Does the Watcher only have wall level ap for you then? LMAO so dumb

@vegito315:

If the shoe fits.

Call me when you can explain how your multiversal vibranium synthezoid can get damaged by a USB tipped arrow shot by a regular human

@omnireal:

/That is your assumption with no evidence/

Bro. What? I'm literally describing what happens. I didn't even make any assertions about what is going on. I'm simply describing what any one with eyes can see.

/The scene shows the exact same people and building being retconned and it shows reality shattered like a glass sound.None of that happened when Ultron pushed Ultron through the universe/

Bullshit

https://youtu.be/6WxSmBl2lW0

3:05. As Vultron bullrushes Uatu, they crash through multiple locales with the distinct glass shattering audio clearly heard in back ground and fractal/crystalline impact imagery. Same thing happens at 3:48 point at the alleged retcon scene. There is no visual difference aside from it being a close up shot with time slowed down for emphasis.

/show me the evidence that Ultron can teleport by punching people/

And show me were I said he's teleporting people with punches.

I never said he was teleporting. I said they were punching each other through the multiverse a la Chavez. They aren't creating portals but their punching holes in barriers between universe's

@rajjarsalt said:

???

Universal Mori? Where was this presented in the manhwa? If its in raw I need the links. Thanks!

@loggy90: Not Universal but his latest feat is solar system++ level. He manipulated the Oort cloud that surrounds our solar system. Around 10.000 space units I think.

Mori stomps the fodder

Ultron solos the verse

@octavius220: No.

OT: Mubong would be a better match up, Mori no diffs Ultron

Ultron spoke to The Watcher directly without any reason to lie that they both were above the boundaries of the multiverse, meaning that any rule or logic that puts a cap on anything in the multiverse, or anything that is limited by possibly in the multiverse is below the two of them which means they must be above Kang who writes rules for the multiverse. They are literally omnipotent, having just a couple of obscure weaknesses. I think Ultron would beat up everyone in God of Highschool easily.

Ultron wins here. His feats consist of busting Asgard, busting Ego, busting Xandar and its solar system, biting a galaxy into oblivion, blasting away another galaxy into oblivion, shattering spacetime barriers, meshing entire universes with punches, breaching the Watcher's domain which exist outside of the Multiverse, and having Multiversal Awareness. We also know for a fact that Ultron destroyed countless universes off-screen, evident by the Watcher stating that countless voices were crying out across the Multiverse before abruptly going silent.

To elaborate further on the Watcher vs Ultron fight, his blows altered the space-time of the Universe he and The Watcher were fighting in. WoG from the Director/Executive Producer/Head Writer of What If...? states that Ultron was legitimately punching through Universes across the Multiverse and turning them into one "Messy Universe Soup". Ultron is easily Universal+ at the lowest interpretation of this feat.

@purpledeadragon: Universal+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar System level.

@serpentgod: Ultron isn’t universal + you can easily argue him high multiversal with scaling statements and feats

Mori could easily blitz him tbh, but if we don't take the Anti Speed Feats seriously, Ultron stomps

Jin Mori has transcended to a higher dimension where he views timelines as pieces of paper , a dimension where time converges and he now has control over the entire GOH Multiverse , no longer a match tbh.

@maulsmacker: you can play that argument to where watcher views everything as fiction who got dunked on by ultron

Meaning ultron stomps 🥱

@argomkii: if you take away anti feats ultron is immeasurable/inaccessible speed

@darkphantom9895: i disagree, the infinity stones just make dimensional barriers irrelevant to him. I don't know if he has "Immesurable" speed

@argomkii: Ultron is faster in combat then the watcher who exists outside all of space and time and is beyond linear time

@darkphantom9895: that makes sense, but Ultron do got some serious anti speed feats

I'll probably just go with MFTL+

He likely still beats Mori

@argomkii: yeah he got serious anti feats but mostly because the dude a jobber like one of the biggest ever

He has high tier dimensional hax but didn’t use any of them during his fight with strange he didn’t even showcase the same power as he did in his fight with the watcher