Indra Otsutsuki vs Madara Uchiha

Indra Otsutsuki

VS

Madara Uchiha

Round 1: Madara Uchiha (Alive)

Round 2: Edo Madara Uchiha (No kurama)

Filler feats

Indra

Indra stomps or beats any non six paths Madara

What feats does Indra have? Isn't he practically featless?

@cyberblades22: 1 Eyed Rinnegan SO6P Madara (8 gates fight) could be debatable whether he could beat indra or not

Indra kept up with six paths Ashura. He murders this Madara

Indra, He is the original madara, Hagoromo stated he could do just about anything.

@gogito: Agreed, but I might lean towards Madara a little more mainly due to him having more feats (Indra's pretty featless) along with Madara's hype, but it'd probably be a good fight especially if we give Indra manga feats/ statements.

Indra definitely beats Edo Madera. Now if we're talking about rebirth Madera when he came back to life with hashirama's cells then it's a different story.

@cyberblades22: Indra fought on par with SO6P Ashura. If you believe SO6P Ashura is stronger than 8 gates guy then Indra definitely beats 1 eyed SO6P Madara.

Indra Otsutsuki would destroy a Base Level EMS Or Rinnegan Madara. Any Madara without the Juubi is getting clap here.

SPSM Naruto>Rinnegan Sasuke>Sage of Six path Ashura>Indra at his best. They are at least Comparable to six path Naruto and Sasuke because they where Born was powerful chakra not as much as Hagoromo but still a lot of chakra.

I understand that Notion right their...but if we go that route than Featless Hamura loses to Sakura, Nagato and BSM Naruto because He has no Feats we can scale him by.

I want to say I get your points those, I use to think that as well but then I had came to the conclusion that Indra would be naturally more Gifted than Madara at basically everything since he comes from the Sage of six path, Hagoromo's Praise of him, Zetsu statements albeit anime He still Said Indra at his full potential with a rinnegan could surpass Hagoromo. The only way Madara would be able to compete is if he had the juubi.

He would Rip a hole in that Madara and call it a day.

He and his Brother literally was born into great power like Hagoromo and Hamura were. It wasn't like he didn't train either, which is why I put them at least comparable to SPSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke.

@gogito: That's the thing the thing tho, we don't know who's stronger between Guy and Ashura (besides vague statements) and even then Madara held back against Guy who had help from 4 other people (so even saying he's above doesn't mean he'll be above Madara) so we can't definitively say who's stronger which is why I said by feats Madara should be stronger.

@mygod000: I can see your point but in this case both are god tiers (Madara and Indra) and have hype from other god tiers which is why I said by feats 1 eyed Juubi Madara should win but lower forms should lose since Indra is a god tier. From the hype we get about them we know they would definitely be above the likes of Sakura, Nagato and BSM Naruto if another God tier considers them strong and praises their powers (Hagoromo did so for both Madara and Indra). Hamura's power would be easier to gauge since we know he fought against the Juubi and from Toneri's statements of trying to achieve his powers which confirms that he himself was below Hamura and we know Toneri > Nagato, BSM Naruto(pre six paths) and Sakura.

I agree that he'd probably be more naturally gifted than Madara based on statements but I'm unsure if that's enough to beat 1 eyed Juubi Madara, for instance we know Itachi is a more gifted prodigy than BM Naruto but we know BM Naruto is above him in power. Agreed, but I was talking about 1 eyed (pre shinju) Juubi Madara being above Indra with gogito, I already accept that Indra > any non juubi version of Madara.

Mismatch, Indra stomps any non six paths madara

Indra.

Indra

He used a perfect susanoo on his brother asura in the anime but that's about it really

this should be 1 rinnegan madara vs indra

anyways this match indra wins

I fail to see how that could even occur when indra cannot even see madara's limbo clones nor counter chibaku tensei

maybe Indra can cut chibaku tensei as sasuke do, but he doesn't have limbo counter

Indra could not cut ashura's wood style budda up much less a moon so that logic does not make much sense really

normal chibaku tensei like pain do i mean

Madara's chibaku tensei is much larger as he's far stronger and it should be around moon level if were counting juubidara here if not then he still wins as his shown chibaku tensei jutsu is still far larger then ashura's wood style budda that indra failed to cut up also madara could always drop a meteor on indra which again he does not have the ap to cut

okay, I'm agree with you, but he can cut pain chibaku tensei definitely

Madara

Indra wins against pre-Juubi Madara.

I fail to see how that could even occur when indra cannot even see madara's limbo clones nor counter chibaku tensei

He does not need to hurt indra as chibaku tensei can seal him

madara will win. Unlike Indra, Madara has the Rinnegan.

Base on what? Madara stomps him both in feats and power scaling.

The hax of Rinnegan is more than enough to defeat Indra. What attack will he do that Madara cannot counter? Specially that Indra's power is also Madara's power. And Madara also have Asura's power by infusing his body with Hashirama cells.

@godlyshinigami:

• Sigh.. No it isn't Lol , All of those hax have an activation speed , Indra is massively more faster and powerful than Madara , Indra still blitzes and oneshotts.

base on what? what makes you think Indra is faster when Madara himself possess Indra's power?

• Madara won't have the chance to counter anything , Indra blitzes and one-shotts

I don't need your headcanon. How is Indra faster when Madara possess both of Indra and Ashura's powers?

• No it isn't , Madara can't use amaterasu , Indra can't use limbo , there powers are not the same Lol.

Your wrong assumption is proven wrong by naruto ch 671.

• Nowhere near the level of Ashura Lol , Madara doesn't have Hagoromo's Chakra Lol

Again, Your wrong assumption is proven wrong by naruto ch 671.

• It's not that hard to understand Indra is six paths level , pre juubi Madara isn't , None of Madara's hax are relevant because Indra is so much faster and more powerful than Madara

Again, we don't need your headcanon here. Indra was never said to have the six path's power, which is the Rinnegan and Six path's Senjutsu. Don't confused your headcanon into canon events.

Madara's Rinnegan counter all of Indra's ninjutsu. Indra on the other hand cannot defend against Madara's Limbo. What's stopping Madara's Limbo from snapping his head?

• Indra>SOSP Ashura>>SOSP Naruto>>1 eyed juubi Madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Pre juubi Madara

Lol. Again, we do not need your headcanon.

Indra is the son of haguromo along with the progenitor of the uchiha clan, I know full well who he is.

The anime showcases that ashura's wood budda was enough to beat him, I dont see how madara stomps considering that he has dealt with wood buddas much longer and has won

@godlyshinigami:

Sigh.. He doesn't have Indra's Power Lol.

Sigh... Again, your wrong assumption is proven wrong by naruto ch 671

He doesn't have Indra's power do you not understand That? Indra is faster because he scales to characters massively more faster than Pre juubi Madara

Again, your wrong assumption is proven wrong by naruto ch 671.

And really, you scale a MS user above an EMS user?

Nowhere in the Scan you've provided does Hagoromo state Madara has Indra's power. He is referring to their Reincarnation , not Their power Lol.

Lol. Not only you contradict Hagoromo's statement in ch 671 but you purposely miss the part that Madara obtain the same power as Hagoromo.

Once again you fail to understand the context of the scan , that you're providing.

Lol. It's rich coming from you who contradicts the context of the scan.

Hagorormo is talking about how Madara unlocked the Rinnegan , which was combining the chakra of uchiha and senju , but just because you have the rinnegan doesn't mean you more powerful than characters with either Senju or Uchiha Chakra.

Quite the opposite. You're more powerful to characters with Uchiha and Senju chakra because only the mixture of the transmigrant of Indra and Asura could unlock the Rinnegan.

We see this when Edo madara fights Edo Hashirama , Despite Madara having the Rinnegan , Hashirama is still able to compete match and even beat Edo madara. So having the Rinnegan doesn't equate to having the same abilities of uchiha and senju and it also doesn't equate to having power superior to Uchiha and Senju. and Hagoromo says that brought out his chakra , he doesn't say ''Madara has all my power'' He is referring to Madara obtaining the rinnegan which is hagorom's dojutsu. He isn't saying Madara is equal to him in power.

I suggest you read again the chapter. Your statement contradicts the statement of Hagoromo in Naruto ch 671.

I never said Indra has six paths power , I said he is six paths level , he is able to overpower characters who have six paths Chakra.

Lol. When did he overpower characterts who have six path's chakra? In fact, Asura defeat him using only his Wood release. How did you come up of Indra defeating characters who use six path's chakra?

Sigh... Indra is Massively , Massively , Massively More powerful than any non juubi Madara , he is able to match and overpower characters that have double the amount of power of SOSP Naruto , the Same SOSP Naruto who stomped 1 eyed Juubi Madara. But you think pre juubi Madara would beat a character who is stronger than SOSP Naruto LMAO.

Sigh... again, don't mix your headcanon with canon events. By feats, Madara is more powerful being able to fight Hashirama on a stand still after Hashirama used his Sage Art Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands. Indra on the other hand got defeated.

It isn't head canon , Its' just the truth

Nah, seeing as Indra got one shot by Sage Art Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands.

@godlyshinigami:

It isn't an assumption

It is a wrong assumption since you're contradicting Hagoromo's statement back in naruto ch 671.

An MS User who overpowered a Six paths amped Ashura , yes I do.

Again, a wrong assumption since Indra get one shot by a wood release attack instead of a six path's senjutsu attack. Indra never overpowered Asura while he's using his six path's senjutsu.

That doesn't equate to them being relative in power

no, Madara's power is more stronger than Indra's power. Hell, Indra does not have any feats to defeat Uchiha Madara.

Having the rinnegan doesn't equate to being more powerful than Characters who are six paths Level , If that was the case , Nagato would be able to stomp SOSP Naruto or Pre juubi Madara would stomp Kaguya. Having the RInnegan also doesn't equate being more powerful than Sharringan Users , If that was the case Pain would stomp EMS Madara. so yeah having the Rinnegan doesn't equate to being more powerful , you need feats/Scaling to support you being that powerful. Pre juubi Madara isn't beating a character stronger than SOSP Naruto Lmao.

Lmao, again, Indra does not possess six path's power. Don't mix your own headcanon into canon events. Indra does not even have the power of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

Did you not watch the fight between him and Ashura???. Hagoromo gives Ashura all of his chakra which is double the amount he gave to Naruto and Sasuke and he gets six paths chakra with the truth seeking orbs and despite having all of Hagoromo's Chakra , Indra is still able to overpower him , Ashura gets amped again by the Chakra of multiple villagers and only after that does he manage to overpower Indra.

What? are you sure we watched the same episode? Because the one I watch is Indra got one shot by Asura using only his wood release.

This is a stupid statement , Indra has overpowered characters who are more powerful than SOSP Naruto , Indra got defeated by a SOSP Ashura amped with the power with several villagers , While Madara got defeated by Hashirama who wasn't even six paths level Lol.

Lol. Yeah, your statement is. And madara was not defeated, he plan to be killed so that he could get hashirama's cells.

It's funny how you insist your wrong assumption after being debunked by Naruto ch 671 and naruto shippuden episode 468.

That's not really An Anti-feat considering Ashura was amped by Hagoromo's Chakra and the Chackra of several villagers

It is an anti feat since madara survived the same technique from Asura's transmigrant while Indra was one shot by the same technique.

Stop downplaying Indra , who was able to overpower a six paths amped Ahsura who was stronger than SOSP Naruto , the same Naruto who stomped 1 eyed juubi Madara.

Stop wanking Indra. He never overpower a six paths amped Asura, he got one shot by a wood release attack from asura.