Indominus Rex vs Giganotosaurus

I dunno the Indominus Rex is pretty powerful and the Indominus Rex is fast I think it could win because of speed and also the jaw power of a T-Rex+ Raptors+ whatever other Dino DNA is in it

that gigantosaurus is far too big for indominus to take down

I think Indominus has this by a slight majority. Gigantosaurus definitely looks to be an "all brawn no brains" type dino, and I-Rex's many advantages (Camo, intelligence, speed from Raptor DNA, etc.) can pull this off. Plus Indominus has pretty durable armor-like plating on top (Possible Ankylosaur DNA?) from what I've seen and those claws are deadly.

Indominus 6 or 7 out of 10.

that "brawns" easily knocked out a fully grown t-rex and threw the same t-rex easily. that "brawns" uses his head as a paddle or a battering ram. that "brawns" demolished a missile silo. that "brawns" had to be killed by a satelitte laser because nothing in the dino crisis 2 arsenal hasn't significantly injured it. this "brawns" took numerous ignited gas blast to the face, only to stand up a few moments afterwards. heck, the same t-rex this "brawns" killed took an RPG to the eye and merely lost his eye to it.

i-rex hasn't shown his raptor like speed, his intelligence is equal to a raptor and was promptly bitten down by a mosasaur. he doesn't have any armor plating what so ever.

Because that same T-Rex let itself get caught. As Indominus is as smart (if not smarter than) Raptors who have shown intelligence to attack by jumping on larger animals on their back to avoid said capture, then I-Rex can do the same. It bled from T-Rex biting it's leg. That means it can be injured by a bite. I'm pretty sure it was stated that Indominus has armor plating. I'll have to find it. Also I'm pretty sure Indominus is smarter than Raptors. It remembered something from when it was an adolescent (Tracking implant), knew that hiding and getting them to search for it was a way to escape, knew that if it set the Pterodons free, they would bring down the helicopter, etc. You're acting like Indominus would act exactly like the brainless T-Rex shown in that animation. Camoflauge hit and runs until it's bled out. Indominus isn't going to be stupid and try to outmuscle it like T-Rex.

the i-rex hasn't shown the capability to jump higher than his height. if that was the case, it could have easily jump over the fence of the cage he was put in.

The cage was taller than it by a large margin, plus it's claws would have a harder time digging into concrete than Giganto's skin.

the giganoto bled from every attack to it by the t-rex and the two main characters of the game who had RPGs at their disposal and it still bulldozed through everything.

That's not a lot of blood loss compared to what Indominus can do.

it's baseline intelligence is similar to a raptor and it hasn't shown anything beyond that because raptors in the movie series are intelligent enough to remember a lot of stuff, they are also intelligent enough to setup an ambush and they are also intelligent enough to open doors on their own. its intelligence is never boosted by the other four theropod dna added to it not that it matters because the only other theropod in that list that has shown intelligence on-screen is the t-rex.

What? Indominus remembering the exact location of the tracking implant placed as an adolescent and knowing to claw it out isn't above Raptor intelligence? Provide me one instance where Raptors have shown this kind of memory. Trap setting is impressive, but formulating an escape plan is even moreso. Come on, don't downplay like that. Show feats that have Raptors at this kind of plan formulation or information retention stage.

it doesn't have the ankylosaur's armor because it sustained bite and claw wounds during the fight against the three raptors and rexxy and was promptly bitten down by a mosasaur. the same anklyosaur armor hasn't been bitten through by the i-rex and they haven't added an ankylosaur dna to it. the only camouflage it has shown is to change its body temperature. it has never shown the same camouflage feature of the carnotaurus it came from not that it mattered given that the carnotaurus in the books and the movies are different that the latter hasn't even appeared.

I didn't say it had Ankylosaur's armor. I said it could have possible Ankylosaur DNA because I believed it was stated to have armor plating of some sort. I was wrong about Ankylosaur DNA but it does say it has ultra-tough osteoderms on it's body from Rugops DNA. This would increase durability by a good margin when compared with unplated skin. Also we don't know everything that was included in I-Rex's genetic makeup. That has never been revealed. We just know what we were told. Which so far is:

Various Abelisaurs (That include Gigantosaurus itself)

Tyrannosaur

Raptor

Cuttlefish

Unknown Tree Frog

Pit Viper

They never said that this was the extent of I-Rex's genetic code. Ever.

the i-rex going to the pterosaur paddock was purely coincidental because it can only sense mass amounts of thermal signatures. the aviary was nearer to it than the main attractions. i would give you that it startled the pterosaurs to shoo the helicopter but that's the same intelligence a raptor can do at this point.

That's not Raptor intelligence. Raptors are smart but not smart enough to use (Possibly command in a sense) other dinosaurs to accentuate their own agenda. Again, give me an instance where Raptors have done this.

you are acting like the indominus can do all those things when all it has shown in the screen are what i described accordingly. do you want me to assumne more of this giganoto then because he can endure anti-matter weapons as well and was practically invulnerable throughout the game.

Game mechanics are not viable when they contradict cutscene canon. Gigantosaurus was made to bleed by a T-Rex, therefor Indominus can also make it bleed. Any living creature that can bleed has a set amount of blood, and can bleed out. Indominus using hit and run with it's camo is not something beyond the scope of it's shown abilities. It's massively intelligent and was never shown to try to muscle it's way through an opponent that much larger than itself. You're taking game mechanics to the extreme to say Gigantosaurus was invincible. There's a huge difference between the argument I'm making and the argument you're making. This is a brains vs brawn battle, and with I-Rex's superior speed (T-Rex speed at minimum, 35 MPH), intelligence (Beyond Raptor until you prove otherwise as I've already given reasons why it's beyond Raptor), and capability of causing some sort of injury to Giganto, means that brains win since brawn in this case is capable of being injured by said brains. Again give me a reason why Indominus wouldn't try a hit and run strategy using its camo. It already knows what it can do with it, and has used it in complex plans before. So come on, feel free.

Giganto was a real dino. You could've used the actual wiki page.

Why? I wanted to use this version of dino and not others.

that gigantosaurus is far too big for indominus to take down

except raptors can jump significantly higher than their height. the lost world movie showed a raptor jumping approximately twice its height. you can also see how high the i-rex enclosure is during the two scenes of the i-rex observation deck and it's not even that high.

I can concede that I-Rex doesn't have Raptor jumping skill. But that wasn't my main point to begin with. My main point was that Raptors showed tactics when fighting opponents they could tell outclassed them. Indominus would also realize the sheer size difference and try a different approach as well.

what bloodloss can an i-rex bite do when the gigantosaurus has been bitten by a t-rex, blasted by numerous gas pumps and the players literally pumping a lot of lead into it ?

The claws of the I-Rex should supplement the difference in bite strength between I-Rex and T-Rex, so an I-Rex could cause the same amount (if not more from constant slashing) of blood loss to it. Not to mention I-Rex was shot to all Hell and back as well, and didn't show any signs of damage. A point blank rocket explosion merely knocked it over and caused it to retreat. It didn't limp, bleed, or anything else. So your durability feats for Gigantosaurus are not impressive when compared to I-Rex's similar feats.

knowing its tracker location is nothing higher than what the basic movie raptor can do. blue acknowledge owen when he removed the camera head piece attached to its head. if blue can remember owen ,whom trained him and his brothers, and the camera head piece attached to his head, the i-rex is more likely to remember the tracker embedded on to him

What? How is remembering the animal you imprinted on as an infant the same as memorizing a placed beacon as an adolescent? Modern birds can recognize imprinted figures. And the camera feat is short term memory. The feat from I-Rex about remembering the tracking beacon's location is long term memory. Much more impressive when talking about brain activity. Long term synapse connections in the brain are more susceptible to degradation. Not only that, it also figured out the beacon was detrimental to it and removed it.

rugops only bore scales but nothing that is equal to an ankylosaur. there is no line in the movie that says that accumulative dna mixing increases the toughness of i-rex. there were four other theropods listed as a combination to the i-rex and its listed on the jurassic world website.

I never said it was equal to an Ankylosaur, seriously stop putting words in my mouth with this. Osteoderms are far more durable than skin and I-Rex's back and skull were lined with the things. That would stand to reason that I-Rex has higher than average durability in places these osteoderms are present. Saying otherwise is just ridiculous.

http://www.jurassicworld.com/dinosaurs/indominus-rex/

heck, it doesn't even mention pit viper ,which you conveniently added, both in the website and the movie.

Uhh...it does in the movie. They state that it's where I-Rex gets it's heat signature detecting capabilities. And before you mix it up, it gets it's heat signature hiding capabilities from a species of Tree Frog. Detection comes from the Pit Viper.

raptors are incredibly intelligent in the jurassic world movie series to a point that they are not allowed out under any circumstances. the movies and the books highly point that. anything higher than that is merely postulating on unaccounted data.

I've already proven how Indominus is smarter than Raptors by feats. I never said Raptors were not highly intelligent. It only helps Indominus' credibility here when you mention how intelligent Raptors are. It's not postulating, it's going by shown feats. Something we do here on Comic Vine. Come on now, that's CV basics. I-Rex's shown intelligence feats (Formulating complex escape plans, remembering something from adolescence and determining the significance and detriment of said object and removing it, using other dinosaurs to advance it's own agenda) surpass what we've seen of Raptors (Communication, which I-Rex can do. Door opening. Impressive for an animal, but not compared to I-Rex. And setting a simple trap in JP3, which again is impressive but not compared to I-Rex's escape plan). So therefor I-Rex is shown to be superior in intelligence to Raptors by feats.

a whole lot of what i said about that giganoto is found outside game mechanics.

the only thing that i added is pumping it with lead and RPG but given the missile silo scene on the first video, the whole pumping lead into it had no effect. you on the other hand are assuming things that the i-rex has never done. he has never used his "camo" in a fight. he has never used his "jump ability" in a fight. his only intelligence is similar to a raptor, which is a big complement to it. he has never used intelligence to a point of the abilities you are assuming it has. you are talking about a non existent strategy being used on a significantly tougher dinosaur. you might as well argue that i-rex can defeat zilla with that kind of strategy

You're just making me start to think you haven't watched the movie. I-Rex used camo in it's escape plan, and against the Asset Control Unit. It knew that they were after it, and it used it's camo to stage a surprise attack. I already said the "jumping" wasn't my main point in this post so I shouldn't have to go over it. I've also already proven that it's intelligence is superior to a raptor when analyzing shown feats. It has used it's intelligence to the point that I'm saying. And that depends on which Zilla. In a lot of fights against physically superior opponents without the opponent having added powers, I-Rex would win because of the fact that it can strategize. Your whole argument is based on the fact that you think I-Rex can't strategize when in the movie it formulated and executed an escape plan near flawlessly, and launched a surprise attack on a team of highly trained trackers after removing their way to track it. I-Rex has shown to be strategically oriented and to say otherwise is just ridiculous.

except he hasn't shown it and to assume anything beyond that is to assume a human with sharp claws would conveniently put go behind a giant bear's back when he has no jumping power to do so.

I just proved how SHE has shown it. I already stated that the jumping isn't a viable strategy. I'm just saying Raptors have shown the intelligence to not take on a stronger opponent head-on, so why would Indominus (who I've proven is smarter than Raptors)?

the wounds the i-rex gave to brontosaurus doesn't indicate whether or not he used claws to it. heck, the rexxy fight showed i-rex using his mouth most of the time. again assuming beyond the parameters of that fight is simply me going to assume that this giganotosaurus would use his head as swinging mace against a charging i-rex and his more than likely to get knocked out by that one. the fire explosion is a negligible feat given that it's heat and shock damage, not claw and teeth and blunt force trauma damage. and if you actually seen the OP video, it took 4 to 5 ignited gas pumps to knock him down accordingly. said giganoto survived said missile silo explosion and was seen in the last video posted

What? It used it's claws in the fight against the Ankylosaur. Not to mention it tanked a club swing from an Ankylosaur to the face which adds to it's durability. Those tail swings are capable of breaking the leg of a T-Rex, yet Indominus shrugged it off. Also it's claws went through bulletproof glass. That's a pretty impressive feat when you get down to it. And the explosion that I-Rex took had shrapnel in it, like any other RPG explosion. Shrapnel moving at a force that no animal could hope to replicate. RPGs are actually largely intended for the sole purpose of shrapnel damage. And what makes you think I-Rex would charge at a foe that big? Stop downplaying.

the fact that all 4 raptors chose to follow i-rex in the jungle shows signs dominancy roles amongst raptors but willing to choose their imprintee, owen, or a target like hoskins shows memory skills of sort. a tag put somewhere on his body is something it can easily deduce on his own, like how the raptors of the first movie knew how to open a door or knew when the fence's electricity was cut off. and what's to say all 4 raptors receive their training in adulthood and the tracer put in there just lately ?

Having a social hierarchy isn't anything impressive in the animal kingdom. Lions do it, dogs do it, primates do it, etc. And choosing the animal you imprinted on over your pack alpha isn't intelligence. It does show that the brain is capable of empathy on some degree, so there's that. But that's not intelligence, merely brain functionality. And no, do you remember the exact location of every shot you have ever gotten? I bet not. I bet you don't even remember the most recent. And I'm talking about the exact point where the needle was placed. The tracer was stated to be put in during I-Rex's adolescence IIRC. So it wasn't put in recently.

you are still indicating that accumulative dna mixing has shown skin toughness when there is no line in the movie that say so stop saying that.

No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying I-Rex's back is covered in osteoderms, which are immensely more durable than skin. That's a fact. I don't know how to make this any simpler for you. If you cover your skin in small rocks, it's going to be more durable than just normal skin.

it's the tree frog dna that allows the thermal detection not the pit viper.

What? Tree frogs can hide their thermal signature. Not detect others. It was directly stated that I-Rex got it's thermal detection capabilities from the Pit Viper. Have you even watched the movie?

no, you haven't proven anything. all you are saying is that it knew its tag was going to hinder it and it was intelligent enough to remove it and was intelligent enough to escape accordingly now it would magically postulate a fighting strategy with all the assumed abilities you said against a significantly bigger and tougher monsters. we value feats here and what you are doing at this point is assume beyond that. if it was so damn intelligent, then why did it not find owen under the jeep when it practically saw him go for it and briefly smelled it ? it smelled owen and the girl in the old center.

I've proven quite a bit. You just refuse to accept it out of ignorance and stubborn pride. I-Rex's feats show a mind capable of formulating strategies. Even in combat situations. So we know that it can strategize. Why would the size of the monster affect it's thinking? You're getting really ridiculous and I'm honestly glad I'm done responding to this post.

it's camo ability was to change its temperature. it never change his appearance. the i-rex observation deck utilizes temperature scans and given that it can hide on those obviously big trees with big grass, it worked accordingly. in asset control, it hides behind a tree line. it hasn't shown the right amount of strategize to fight against a big dinosaur. heck it lacked strategic development in tackling two dinosaurs, one small and one big.

No, it could camouflage itself with the environment. Like a cuttlefish (As stated in the movie). You really must be either blind, purposefly ignorant, or just not capable of paying attention. It camouflaged itself with the trees. What your saying is practically like "Even though the I-Rex can solve 1+1, it can't solve 2+2 because it's a different problem". I-Rex has beyond Raptor (problem solving) intelligence, so why would it not be able to strategize?

also on zilla's part, there is no strategy against a kaiju of that magnitude and to say it does means a tiger can bite down a dragon to death.

Not even going to derail the thread with responding to this pointless debate.

Add in a Spinosaurus

Add in a Spinosaurus

@mije_101: We are talking about Jurassic Park versions here not real versions, otherwise Raptors would be the size of turkeys and have feathers.

Your favourite dinosaur still gets stomped by both of the ones in this fight, JP versions or otherwise.

So no. Don'tadd a spinosaurus.

Gigantosaurus from Dino crsis?