Incomplete Juubi vs Vasto Lord Ichigo

Rules

• Characters use all their powers and abilities.
• Incomplete Juubi in 3rd form during the 4th Shinobi War.
• Version Vasto Lord Ichigo during the battle with Ulquiorra.
• Characters don't know each other.

Who wis win?

“Characters don’t know each other”

said characters have the sentience of a dog

Ichigo wins

Juubi

Ichigo bodies.

Juubi breathes and one shots.

juubi in a mismatch

Juubi slaps all the hollows in the series at the same time

Can someone scale this Ichigo? Then I’ll scale juubi and we go from there

If we use this Lanza Calc:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arc7Kuroi/Lanza_del_Relampago_V2

Which is technically correct but controversial, VL Ichigo is moon level.

If we don’t, he’s Large Country level.

First form Juubi casually finger flicks him the same way it did Bee's BB.

Either Juubi wins extreme difficulty or Ichigo wins extreme difficulty since you didn't give Ichigo movie feats

Then again Juubi is mindless and this Ichigo is a small target who is extremely bloodlusted, packs significant firepower and is extremely fast, and can recklessly spam his ceros which are stronger than Lanza. Juubi is going to have a really hard time tagging him but I think it could go either way. This isn't a stomp for either sides and nobody is fingerflicking shit.

Ichigo dog walks casually lol. Mismatch

Juubi finger flicks him though. It has objectively better feats, unless you use the highballed version of las noches that makes it as big as a country he gets stomped into oblivion. If you use that version of Ichigo, he still gets destroyed as it no sold combined BB from kurama and gyuki which is again, beyond anything ichigo in any version demonstrated.

This Ichigo is too strong. He stomps. SAFWY novel really did wonders for his scaling.

A better opponent would be Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo.

@greythejiren: Seeing how Ichigo literally fucking detonated Lanza in his palm I'm pretty sure Juubi's attacks won't do that much shit to him.

Also Ichigo is like hundreds of times faster than him, is there any reason why he can't shunpo out of his way from the explosion and spam him with Cero's?

Lol at VL crushing lanza in his palms, a large city/mountain level attack

Juubi in his 1st and weakest form finger flicked this

The juubi ate his own juubi dama + hachibis neg diff, hs later on tanked his own juubi dama in his 3rd form in a barrier, he no sells all that shit, add every hollow in the series and they can't damage him for shit.

As a matter of fact, i will make a thread for it.

Juubi eats him alive lmfao

Lanza is not leaving a scratch on Juubi and is far below it in terms of power. What level do you put it exactly and how?

No, he is not hundreds of times faster than it, Juubi is faster than KCM2 Naruto who has far superior speed feats and scaling than Ichigo.

@ninjarizer: It's not technically correct. I'm pretty sure there are scans portraying Las Notches as SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than what people use.

@famousroman: There are literally shit ton of visual inconsistencies in Naruto as well such as "mountains" being portrayed as small ass fucking hills in a lot of panels and God Tree nowhere near as big as people make it out to be, yet every time Bleach takes the blame for being inconsistent in visuals for portraying Las Noches and Seireitei incorrectly, not Naruto. Few weeks ago we finally got a shot of Wandenreich in TYBW Cour 2 that portrays Wandenreich nowhere near as small as people here make it to be, yet people are still bullshitting about Seireitei and Las Noches being town sized or small city sized, completely ignoring main characters' statements about the locations to downplay the destructive feats.

Don't forget Kurama and the frog are 3 stories tall in canon.

Jubbi stomps

It's a good thing that those mountains are as big as mountains when it matters the most in scans of feats we use then.

See, you can't really find a small mountain in Naruto verse then apply its size to a bigger mountain in a feat that you want. We use on panel visual scaling to determine feats right there on panel where it happens.

Please, don't use Naruto inconsistencies to justify Bleach inconsistencies. The difference between them is that we have better scans and angles for those Naruto objects and actual things that we can use for scaling. Like, again, normal mountains or the actual map of the world. In Bleach all you have is "x can take y time to walk around" and then you make a calculation which completely contradicts what is shown.

Juubi mid diffs , also Using calcs of lanza blowing back sand is very stupid for a number of reasons, same applies to juubi , like deathbattle calced Large Planet level juubi with the attack that destroyed the shinobi alliance headquarters, also size scaling for both verses kinda ass. Anyway juubi also gets the fact that hes closer to God tiers in naruto , so he gets some small percent of high end feats, like hags making the moon, which even scaling 1% using this dispersing mass KE calc would make the juubi small planet level,not saying he is, just an argument that can be applied to the juubi

+Nagatos mountain that he is on is shown its actual size and the 100 meter tall tree is barely 5 pixels in the next panel, and all the other mountains are similar that are next to nagatos.If shit like this is used Pein ends up at continental

Also this

Ichigo is like 10x stronger then Ulquiorra who has a multi continental calc w/ lanza.

Deathbattle is stupid though and we have confirmation of the size of the blast and area destroyed from Boruto.

@dikkhardly: that's cool. It changes nothing.

Correct.

So what?

There are structures, inside Las Noches, that look bigger than Las Noches from the outside. And there isn’t just one, there’s like 3 or 4🤣

Juubi has a multi cont calc by screaming.

Oh wow that's amazing. So what? This Harry Potter now? We scaling destroying tents to building level now? Your argument is based upon character off-hand comments that have literally no level of reliability to them? Against scans of Nnoitra and Sla on top of Las Notches?

LMAO

bruh, Jubi fingerflicks this fodder.

@famousroman:

Oh wow that's amazing. So what?

This means the visuals are inconsistent.

Why would you use an inconsistent metric to produce a consistent result?

This Harry Potter now?

No it’s not, and that’s the point🤣

We scaling destroying tents to building level now?

Dude, relax. Could a building fit inside a tent?

Your argument is based upon character off-hand comments that have literally no level of reliability to them?

Bro, just because you say something, doesn’t make it true.

Give me a single piece of evidence that Nel isn’t reliable.

If you give the Las Noches statement you’ve inadvertently conceded this argument

Against scans of Nnoitra and Sla on top of Las Notches?

Bro. that’s cool.

Infact I’ll post them:

Gallery

Now let’s contrast with the weakest Espada’s Castle:

Those dots in the structures? Windows.

That wall in the background should be bigger than Las Noches and you know it, yet it is inside, and it is ONE CASTLE.

We know Las Noches looks smaller.

The reason why we don’t use the scans is not the reason you are giving FOR US.

The reason is they cannot be compared, they don’t coincide with each other, there is no coherency, therefore they are inconsistent and cannot be used.

I could point out the utter stupidity of this entire argument:

If Kubo gives a size for Las Noches, whatever it is; would you deny it based on the visuals?

If so, which one?

It’s over dude. Theres no coherent response you could give me that this post doesn’t address in detail. Stick to your inconsistent scans and keep getting debunked, just the the Soul Society scans (that keep getting debunked)

Based on what?🤣

Weaker characters walk through this Ichigo lmao.

@ninjarizer: on phone, I'll respond to this later. But advice would be "don't use objective comments to support subjective ones". Nel is an arrancar and lives around arrancars. Nel HAS NOT CONFIRMED THAT THE INSIDE IS EVEN BIGGER THAN THE OUTSIDE. She said some shit looks big as fuck inside. Not the same thing. You can keep saying this and believing it too, but it won't be true unless it is confirmed. Actually, I take that back. I won't reply to this later, I just replied to now and I'm lazy as fuck too. Sorry