Imu nukes Dragon Force Natsu with Mother Flame

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Poll Imu nukes Dragon Force Natsu with Mother Flame (28 votes)

Natsu gets vaped 36%
Mother Flame inflicts heavy injuries 7%
Mother Flame only does slight damage 7%
Natsu no sells and eats it 50%
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How does Post-Viernes Dragon Force Natsu fare against Mother Flame?

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Natsu gets vaped.

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#2  Edited By PlatinumChalice

I personally place MF feat at moon level, but it was accomplished by a barrage of small blasts, which makes it fall under around country level per blast.

Natsu tanks at least.

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That natsu was amped. He tanks

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@strawdiv: mother flame was created by vegapunk 800 years after the void century it didn't flood anything back then

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@strawdiv: besides going by current op fans scaling mother flame>>>>>>>ancient weapons

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OT: no sells

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@death8dragon: ohh yeah I forgot Mother flame isn't an ancient weapon lmaoo

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Natsu no sells the beams

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Non-sells it

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I personally place MF feat at moon level, but it was accomplished by a barrage of small blasts, which makes it fall under around country level per blast.

Natsu tanks at least.

This never happened in the manga

And the anime is not canon after wano plus the anime is known for stretching out scenes.

If it was a barrage oda would have at least shown it in a panel but he didn't.

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@yray said:
@platinumchalice said:

I personally place MF feat at moon level, but it was accomplished by a barrage of small blasts, which makes it fall under around country level per blast.

Natsu tanks at least.

This never happened in the manga

And the anime is not canon after wano plus the anime is known for stretching out scenes.

If it was a barrage oda would have at least shown it in a panel but he didn't.

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Those narrow lines suggest it is indeed a barrage of beams.

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16 Beams are for Yray just 1 big Beam

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How big is that island that was destroyed? Based on the anime scene it looks to be a km or less.

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No sells. Top tiers-God tiers in FT still a tier above God tiers in OP 🤷🏾‍♂️

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DF Natsu scales above Phoneix which is stated to be world-busting and is visually much superior than Mother Flame.

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Backhands it then proceeds to solo the One Piece verse.

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@yray said:
@platinumchalice said:

I personally place MF feat at moon level, but it was accomplished by a barrage of small blasts, which makes it fall under around country level per blast.

Natsu tanks at least.

This never happened in the manga

And the anime is not canon after wano plus the anime is known for stretching out scenes.

If it was a barrage oda would have at least shown it in a panel but he didn't.

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Those narrow lines suggest it is indeed a barrage of beams.

What kind of logic is that? The scan there literally just shows 16 lasers fired at once and then an island sized dome explosion occurs..as simple as that , no mental gymnastics.

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Doflamingo has a move where he used 16 god threads on luffy ..by your logic do we now say because it has multiple threads doffy launched a barrage of it at luffy and not in one Go like it's literally sown on panel ?

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DF Natsu could probably eat it. I mean he ate the Ethereon beam way, way, waaaaay back when. He got really sick from doing it but he ate that damned thing and gained a temporary powerup from it.

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@yray: the anime isn’t canon after Wano? Even the anime is canon or it’s not. Certain parts could be canon if Oda confirms it, but unless Oda said “only the Wano arc in the anime is canon” that simply isn’t true.

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@akumu said:

@rolt: no canon

Yes it is. The movie is mentioned in the manga with characters from that were in the film.

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@diydeath: Natsu can't eat something that is not ethernano based. Just like he can't use natural flames or gain power from nature in Edolas because that planet has no ethernano particles in the atmosphere, that is what gives to mages their powers and superhuman stats. Without it they are normal humans.

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@diydeath: Natsu can't eat something that is not ethernano based. Just like he can't use natural flames or gain power from nature in Edolas because that planet has no ethernano particles in the atmosphere, that is what gives to mages their powers and superhuman stats. Without it they are normal humans.

Natsu can eat normal flames so IDK what you're talking about there.

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@diydeath: It's because Earthland has ethernano particles in the atmosphere. Drop him in a world where there are no ethernanos and he'll be as weak and powerless as a common human or even inferior considering random powerless soldiers beat the shit outta him and Wendy. Besides Natsu didn't eat the Ethernano beam but the still-magic energy.....trying to eat the Mother Flame seems kinda impossible for two reasons: it's a completely different fictional power compared to magic in FT, and those are nukes/beams.

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@diydeath: It's because Earthland has ethernano particles in the atmosphere. Drop him in a world where there are no ethernanos and he'll be as weak and powerless as a common human or even inferior considering random powerless soldiers beat the shit outta him and Wendy. Besides Natsu didn't eat the Ethernano beam but the still-magic energy.....trying to eat the Mother Flame seems kinda impossible for two reasons: it's a completely different fictional power compared to magic in FT, and those are nukes/beams.

Why wouldn't we equalize that? That's an assumption that's automatically applied in all debates like this unless specifically stated otherwise.

If not then pretty much all Bleach characters auto win their battles due to them being invisible spirits that can't be sensed by people outside of the series or other equally bad faith arguments become valid.

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@diydeath said:
@high_pressure said:

@diydeath: It's because Earthland has ethernano particles in the atmosphere. Drop him in a world where there are no ethernanos and he'll be as weak and powerless as a common human or even inferior considering random powerless soldiers beat the shit outta him and Wendy. Besides Natsu didn't eat the Ethernano beam but the still-magic energy.....trying to eat the Mother Flame seems kinda impossible for two reasons: it's a completely different fictional power compared to magic in FT, and those are nukes/beams.

If not then pretty much all Bleach characters auto win their battles due to them being invisible spirits that can't be sensed by people outside of the series or other equally bad faith arguments become valid.

Funny enough it is what Bleach debaters always spam in almost every single Bleach themed battle thread vs another verse, even if some random humans in Bleach could actually see them lol.

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@diydeath said:
@high_pressure said:

@diydeath: It's because Earthland has ethernano particles in the atmosphere. Drop him in a world where there are no ethernanos and he'll be as weak and powerless as a common human or even inferior considering random powerless soldiers beat the shit outta him and Wendy. Besides Natsu didn't eat the Ethernano beam but the still-magic energy.....trying to eat the Mother Flame seems kinda impossible for two reasons: it's a completely different fictional power compared to magic in FT, and those are nukes/beams.

If not then pretty much all Bleach characters auto win their battles due to them being invisible spirits that can't be sensed by people outside of the series or other equally bad faith arguments become valid.

Funny enough it is what Bleach debaters always spam in almost every single Bleach themed battle thread vs another verse, even if some random humans in Bleach could actually see them lol.

IDK what you're talking about. I've seen that happen maybe 3 or 4 times and it's always low effort trolls doing it because everyone knows it's a bad argument that's not worth acknowledging. Nobody takes those people seriously.

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@diydeath: I guess you're new here. I took several months of hiatus from CV so i dunno if Bleach debaters have changed or else....but in 4 years that i've been here that argument always came out in almost every single thread involving Bleach.

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@diydeath: I guess you're new here. I took several months of hiatus from CV so i dunno if Bleach debaters have changed or else....but in 4 years that i've been here that argument always came out in almost every single thread involving Bleach.

lol I've been here for years and years and years. That's a bit gaslighty and silly man.

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@yray said:
@platinumchalice said:
@yray said:
@platinumchalice said:

I personally place MF feat at moon level, but it was accomplished by a barrage of small blasts, which makes it fall under around country level per blast.

Natsu tanks at least.

This never happened in the manga

And the anime is not canon after wano plus the anime is known for stretching out scenes.

If it was a barrage oda would have at least shown it in a panel but he didn't.

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Those narrow lines suggest it is indeed a barrage of beams.

What kind of logic is that? The scan there literally just shows 16 lasers fired at once and then an island sized dome explosion occurs..as simple as that , no mental gymnastics.

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Doflamingo has a move where he used 16 god threads on luffy ..by your logic do we now say because it has multiple threads doffy launched a barrage of it at luffy and not in one Go like it's literally sown on panel ?

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Nope. The beams weren't fired at once, as you can see, the beams are separated and coming subsequently.

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