616,post crisis and new 52 feats.
Fight takes place in MCU Wakanda.
Win by KO.
Who wins and why?
I am not sure what J'onn can do here for the most part.
Hulk has resisted TP from more powerful telepaths then eve Xavier, which mean he should resist J'onn TP.
Other than that J'onn won't be able to take much a beating, although he can turn intangible to avoid most of the damage.
I think at best it's a stalemate or Hulk catches him off guard and wins.
@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Yea but wasn't he able to withstand quite a lot of fire back when he had his weakness even regenerate while being affected by it, as far as i know he was never suppose to be less resistant to it then regular humans, just less resistant to it then regular superheroes.
@intothevoid: That depends on the writer, in most cases it was actually written as quite devastating to J’Onn especially early on in his career. Often compared to what Kryptonite would do to Superma. Overtime J’Onn grew more and more resistant but at the start of his career he was in fact highly vulnerable against fire (basically the instance in question is consistent) especially when he’s under intense physiological strain to where he cannot retain his composure and form as well as he normally could.
I will agree that it’s odd to see when J’Onns been so “good” against fire for so long now.
@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: I actually remember in one of his earliest incarnations tanking a fire that decimated an area of 150 km, while now he almost dies to a fire a human woman has no problem handling, it's just so weird to look at such a contrast.
Not as weird as that sex scene from the comic... that traumatized me.
Man... i dunno... tough one. Physically i think Hulk takes it, just based on his feats of beating the Avengers to the point that he fractured Thor's skull in one punch and sent Jennifer amped hulk flying.
Off topic, Marvel need to stop jobbing out the Avengers to show how powerful a new character is. Namor, Sentry and now Hulk. How are they supposed to be the 'it' team everyone aspires to be when even their strongest lineup in years is getting spanked like children.
@20damon: It really isn't, it just means Hulk has no way of hurting him, so it's a stalemate it's not his problem that Hulk can't affect him while he is phased, you could argue that he is afraid to confront Hulk in a fight because he refuses to go out of his intangible form, but it's not exactly a BFR.
But i do agree that BFR in general is just a poor way of beating someone, i never liked it at all because it doesn't exactly tell you who is more powerful, it just a means to deal with an opponent you otherwise can't put down yourself.
Take for instance Hulk vs Nightcrawler a street level character and put them in the middle of space on a platform 100 meters in diameter and let them fight, as soon as the fight starts, Nightcrawler teleports behind Hulk and dumps hims off the platform and since Hulk can't fly Nightcrawler wins via BFR, despite the fact that a fart from Hulk could kill the guy. It's way too easy and lazy way of winning over someone that doesn't involve an actual fight, i like me VS battles to be actual battles.
Yes, my point is kind of that they are taking themselves out of the fight, same as they would with flying away. But i do see and agree with your points, i also agree with the opposite, so i just follow what the general consensus is, i'm just saying an argument could be made ;)
Lol either it's a stalemate or hulk shitstomps all over mmh. Jonn has nothing against him, except for phasing through him, which is far, far, faaaar from a win. Those who are saying hulk would lose, I suggest you go read some immortal hulk comics before posting bullshit.
I’m more inclined to go with Hulk. Other than TP, I don’t see MMH putting him down. He has already shown phasing won’t work with Vision and given his regenerative capabilities and durability it’d take some insane DC just to KO him. IIIRC only that dude from No Surrender was able to do that and he was teambuster I think.
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