@kirkseven said:
@lan_fan said:
His healing factor is very impressive, but his destructive capability and durability itself? They're okay, I guess. After reading Immortal Hulk, I still don't understand why people think of him that highly.
Well he stomped Thor for example, who's already heavily nerfed, but some people ignore/deny that and assume he can stomp planet level characters and such.
Show me where Thor is nerfed and in what way? I had discussions with Thor fans and not a single person could show me how or why he is nerfed beyond he doesn't have Mljonir so his damage output isn't as great. His physical stats are still the same. Nobody claimed he can stomp planet level characters, there are no planet level characters in this thread except for maybe Hal and Fate(who i know nothing about). The reason why Hulk stomp most of this thread isn't because he is that strong(although he is above your regular Hulk that is for sure), it's because most of this gauntlet is weak as hell in comparison.
As for Hulks durability and damage output. He one-shot Thor who so far has tanked beatings from amped Juggernaut, Mangog, War Thor, nerfed Odin, Absorbing Man, Genesys, a Celestial, etc.. and wasn't one-shot by any of them. He one-shot a version of Hulkbuster that tanked multiple hits from Ultron and even manhandled Sentry and matched in damage output a guy that was equal to Sentry, he one-shot Ghost Rider who went toe to toe with Starbrand, no sold a punch from Cho Hulk and tanked attacks from nerfed Odin. He one-shot overloaded BP vibranium suit something BP mentioned he thought was an impossibility because the suit tanked without problems a hit from amped Namor. He broke Visions head(basically killing him), he mangled Maverick Rulks face in 2-3 hits and no sold his hits while Maverick was wearing the Iron Patriot(and even without the Iron Patriot, Rulk has shown the ability to one-shot an entire floating island), he took down Canonballs shields with a single slap and almost killed him(Quicksilver had to catch him before he crashed and broke his neck but instead he ended up breaking QS ribs from the fall) the same Canonball whose shields tanked an attack from a bloodlusted Gladiator, he tanked hits from Jane Thor and Hercules without damage(Herc even hurt his hand punching Hulk), he completely no sold an attack from Living Lightning a guy that badly hurt guys like Gladiator and Wonderman in the past, he broke Challengers nose, tanked an attack from him that was described as being equally physical and energy in nature and laughed it off with just a bloody nose while an attack at HALF that power blew Ionic WM in half, he hurt Nebulon to the point where Nebulon was beginning him to stop hurting him(in the same comic Surfer was unable to hurt him), he bent Surfers board to the point where Surfer noted he could hear his own board screaming from the pain, he one-shot Hypnos a greek god of sleep, while weakened and drained ripped amped Absorbing Mans spine out, while weakened and drained ripped hollow Red Hulk in half, fought off thousands of gamma monsters and preformed a thunderclap whose shockwvave dwarfed an entire mountain and city, etc... So yea i think his durability and damage output are fairly decent, a step above his usual self.
@kirkseven said:
@kgb725: Jane and Herc should both be a notch below normal Thor I would think. Maybe even or above current Thor however. Thing is alright I suppose, but his feats are really at or above what we've seen from even rebirth Superman.
Also, getting launched into space is vague, explain more on this.
Jane is suppose to be equal to worthy Thor and in some ways(Mother Storm) she actually surpasses him, either way Herc has at least stalemated Thor physically in strength on 2 seperate occasions and even bested him in pure H2H combat to the point where Thor needed to cheat and use lightning to free himself before he got put to sleep from a chokehold. So Hulk overpowering them Jane and Herc at the same time while they were trying to hold him down just by flexing his muscles is quite something, especially since in the same comic Herc and Jane held the entire Earth in place.
Listen Kirk, all the jokes and meme-ing aside that people don't seem to get and instead take seriously these days. Hulk would absolutely stomp most people in this thread, the reason for that is precisely because current Hulk is written as being clearly stronger than he normally is while most of Rebirth characters are written to be below what they used to be in pre-52. It's no secret that Rebirth has been all over the place with it's consistency while current Hulk is easily one of the most consistent mainstream hero's out there at the moment. This is not Hulk fanboys fault, it's nobody's fault really, it's just that it just so happens to be the state of things, i mean 2 years ago we didn't even have Banner Hulk. If this was post crisis Superman vs IH we would have a real fight on our hands, but with the state of Rebirth i just can't take most of this characters seriously.
@lan_fan said:
@kirkseven said:
@lan_fan said:
His healing factor is very impressive, but his destructive capability and durability itself? They're okay, I guess. After reading Immortal Hulk, I still don't understand why people think of him that highly.
Well he stomped Thor for example, who's already heavily nerfed, but some people ignore/deny that and assume he can stomp planet level characters and such.
I also remember Thor saying that Hulk is more powerful now. Didn't Hulk still physically struggle fighting Sasquatch though? I know Hulk won, but not through brute force. In his fight against She-Hulk, he also won due to his distraction, and she was fine afterwards. Oh yeah, he also completely destroyed Hulkbuster, so I guess that's impressive.
Do people count his fight against that zombie Red-Hulk as legit? He straight up ripped the dude apart like he was made of paper.
Thor said current Hulk is VASTLY stronger than he was before. The Sasquatch that Hulk fought was amped to be equal in strength to current Hulk. He launched She-Hulk several miles away, that same She-Hulk was amped to be more powerful than previous versions of the Hulk btw, yea the same Hulkbuster that whistood multiple attacks from Ultron and manhandled Sentry.
Yea, that was zombie Red Hulk, Hulk was also mostly drained and weakened at the time, above in large text i did a quick, simplified run down of the things Hulk did and it's a lot more than what you just posted.
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