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Posted by Blueshoecant (1194 posts) 9 months, 15 days ago

Poll: If Thor comes 3 minutes late will Steve and everyone else still be alive? (66 votes)

Yes, but barely alive 18%
Probably not 44%
Tougher ones will survive 38%

In the Battle of Wakanda?

In this scenario it'll take more time to forge the Stormbreaker.

Countless Outriders keep comin wave by wave to swarm the allied forces/Steve's group.

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#1 Posted by Alavanka (2590 posts) - - Show Bio

Wakanda would have been rekt, but we don't know the timeframe. I imagine the supersoldiers would have fallen first, then the Hulkbuster and War Machine.

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#2 Posted by g2_ (11663 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

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#3 Posted by AngryHulks (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon and War Machine will most likely be untouched. However, most people are strictly foot soldiers, and they're clearly overwhelmed. I think it'll still take quite a while before they could reach Banner inside his suit. Wander might be able to survive if she "jump" often enough.

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#4 Edited by buildhare (8715 posts) - - Show Bio

The toughest there was there (Hulkbuster and War Machine) were already down and out. Thor's timing was as last second as it gets.

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#5 Posted by SmoothSanta (2475 posts) - - Show Bio
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Makes no difference

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#6 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7555 posts) - - Show Bio

Wakanda def gets overrun

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#7 Edited by Batman242 (12056 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't matter. Thanos did exactly as he wanted to even with Thor's presence. It was never his objective to kill everyone.

EDIT: Not a battle.

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#8 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

It would probably still be the same.

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#9 Posted by Amcu (16930 posts) - - Show Bio

No. They would have died. They had already been overwhelmed.

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#10 Edited by deltahuman (4985 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that I think about it, MCU Wakanda's offensive powers are pathetic. The only impressive thing they had was that energy shield surrounding the city which became useless later. War Machine alone destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandans combined.

Seriously what kind of a technologically super advanced nation fights alien foot soldiers with foot soldiers of their own, wielding spears. Wakandans should've had a swarm of drones with energy weapons flying over the Outriders and blowing them to hell.

A squadron of US Air force Apache Gunships would've blown the Outriders to kingdom come. Tanks, Armoured vehicles, couple of M134s mounted on them would've obliterated them. Even North Korea would do better than Wakanda against those Outriders. I mean they weren't even super durable or anything. Bucky slaughtered many with his gun.

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#11 Posted by Awesomefacialhairbros (176 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that I think about it, MCU Wakanda's offensive powers are pathetic. The only impressive thing they had was that energy shield surrounding the city which became useless later. War Machine alone destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandans combined.

Seriously what kind of a technologically super advanced nation fights alien foot soldiers with foot soldiers of their own wielding spears. Wakandans should've had a swarm of drones with energy weapons flying over the Outriders and blowing them to hell.

A squadron of US Air force Apache Gunships would've blown the Outriders to kingdom come. Tanks, Armoured vehicles, couple of M134s mounted on them would've obliterated them. Even North Korea would do better than Wakanda against those Outriders. I mean they weren't even super durable or anything. Bucky slaughtered many with his gun.

Truer words were never spoken. Fucking Nepal can do better

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#12 Posted by EcoBlitz (5101 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman: Wakandan spears are said to one shot tanks.....

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#13 Posted by FaradaySloth (10087 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman: Shh you're going to upset the "wakanda" people on Twitter and Tumblr...

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#14 Edited by deltahuman (4985 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz:

Good for them.

Also, It's a pity the Black Order didn't invade Wakanda with Tanks.

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#16 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

War Machine , Falcon and BP might survive.

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#17 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4589 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure if it’d have gotten to that point Hulk would’ve burst out, he wouldn’t have let Banner die imo

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#18 Posted by Richubs (4906 posts) - - Show Bio

@awesomefacialhairbros: Exactly

If they'd simply asked for a missile strike outside of the shields it'd probably have destroyed all the outriders.

They didn't have a single ranged weapon what the hell.

Plus they didn't even use their planes in the battle. Now that I think of it Killmonger probably would've lost if he had tried to attack a superpower.

Its also stupid that people can just dig underneath the shield to come to the other side.

(Though perhaps they didn't have the firepower because they simply like idiots didn't expect war and only decided to Amp up their defensive capabilities.)

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#19 Posted by Thejdg (45 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to go ahead and say no because they were getting overwhelmed. even the Hulkbuster armor was getting overwhelmed at that point.

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#20 Posted by Awesomefacialhairbros (176 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: It might be. I mean its not like they expected an Invasion since you know the whole world thinks they are a poor country but oh well.

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#21 Posted by EcoBlitz (5101 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: they had flying thingys that shot out energy blasts. Outriders ship effortlessly tanked them.

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#22 Edited by Richubs (4906 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz: They should've used it on outriders so it proves nothing other than the fact that they had no strategy.

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#23 Posted by DoctorDaMn (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@awesomefacialhairbros: @deltahuman: HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE SHURI ISN'T THE SMARTEST IN THE MCU BY COMPARING HER ENTIRE ARSENAL TO AN OUTDATED IRONMAN ARMOR!

IM FLAGGING BOTH YOU GUYS FOR USING TOO MUCH LOGIC!!!

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#24 Posted by miekskywalker (2331 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Anything fatal to banner would awake the hulk. So he comes out whether he wants to or not however he would still need to face cull and the outriders.

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5c830d4e319e6 (4952 posts) - - Show Bio

It was clearly implied that they would have died.

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#26 Posted by Zepta_Pon (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

It wouldn't matter. But the lack of significant military resistance coming from Wakanda is in no way consistent with how powerful they claim to be.

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#27 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4589 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Anything fatal to banner would awake the hulk. So he comes out whether he wants to or not however he would still need to face cull and the outriders.

Hulk would've torn through them and probably made Cull eat dirt.

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#28 Posted by Tronmest35 (101 posts) - - Show Bio

The only thing special about Wakanda is vibranium. For them they don't fight offensively because it would mean exposing who they are and the incredibly rare metal that they have, so it is rather about defense not offense

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#29 Posted by TheSpartanB345T (4176 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk would have come out and saved them.

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#30 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16630 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve was definitely on the ropes that’s for sure.

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#31 Edited by deactivated-5bb6a6f86dc65 (4972 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve, Bucky, Natasha, Okoye, M'Baku, Wanda and possibly Rhodey and Sam (if Cull knocked them out of the air with his hammer or something) would've died.

T'Challa probably would've been thrashed around and damaged severely, but still alive. Banner would've transformed into the Hulk, saving himself and he would've slaughtered many of the Outriders (but not before they've killed the others).

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#32 Posted by Zepta_Pon (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

To make things worst for Wakanda, wasn't Killmonger's plan to take over the world? Of course, they don't have to deal with that because Killmonger is already dead, but how is he gonna do that if Wakanda's military can't even make a proper resistance against the Outriders?

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#33 Posted by Chimeroid (9267 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that I think about it, MCU Wakanda's offensive powers are pathetic. The only impressive thing they had was that energy shield surrounding the city which became useless later. War Machine alone destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandans combined.

Seriously what kind of a technologically super advanced nation fights alien foot soldiers with foot soldiers of their own, wielding spears. Wakandans should've had a swarm of drones with energy weapons flying over the Outriders and blowing them to hell.

A squadron of US Air force Apache Gunships would've blown the Outriders to kingdom come. Tanks, Armoured vehicles, couple of M134s mounted on them would've obliterated them. Even North Korea would do better than Wakanda against those Outriders. I mean they weren't even super durable or anything. Bucky slaughtered many with his gun.

And remember that Killmonger planned to conquer the planet with that army...

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#34 Edited by Alavanka (2590 posts) - - Show Bio

Wakandan spears are sonic canons that can take out tanks, but all the technology in the world means nothing when your king is T'Challa. Killmonger with Wakanda's resources isn't the same as T'Challa with Wakanda's resources.

Stark tech is indeed better than Wakanda tech. Shuri is the smartest character in the MCU... when it comes to running her mouth.

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#35 Posted by Awesomefacialhairbros (176 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman said:

Now that I think about it, MCU Wakanda's offensive powers are pathetic. The only impressive thing they had was that energy shield surrounding the city which became useless later. War Machine alone destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandans combined.

Seriously what kind of a technologically super advanced nation fights alien foot soldiers with foot soldiers of their own, wielding spears. Wakandans should've had a swarm of drones with energy weapons flying over the Outriders and blowing them to hell.

A squadron of US Air force Apache Gunships would've blown the Outriders to kingdom come. Tanks, Armoured vehicles, couple of M134s mounted on them would've obliterated them. Even North Korea would do better than Wakanda against those Outriders. I mean they weren't even super durable or anything. Bucky slaughtered many with his gun.

And remember that Killmonger planned to conquer the planet with that army...

WAKANDAN LOGIC 101

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#36 Edited by xMangog__Beastx (4736 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#37 Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2600 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

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#38 Posted by JSDoctor (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

Some of them. It probably would have taken longer than that for them to hurt Black Panther. Hulk would possibly have emerged if/when they got through the HB suit, though we'll have to wait until Avengers 4 to see what it takes to draw him out again. Other than that, their only hope would have been Wanda descending onto the battlefield and doing something crazy like she did a few minutes later. But without Thor to save all of the others, Corvus would have been able to get the stone without distractions if Wanda had left Vision's side.

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#39 Posted by Awesomefacialhairbros (176 posts) - - Show Bio

@alavanka said:

Wakandan spears are sonic canons that can take out tanks, but all the technology in the world means nothing when your king is T'Challa. Killmonger with Wakanda's resources isn't the same as T'Challa with Wakanda's resources.

Stark tech is indeed better than Wakanda tech. Shuri is the smartest character in the MCU... when it comes to running her mouth.

Dude stop or you might trigger the Shuri Fangirls on this site

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#40 Posted by Emperorb777 (11292 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course they'd be ok, its a Disney movie.

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#41 Posted by TheTruthIII (3316 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course they'd be ok, its a Disney movie.

Because Infinity War ended happily ever after, right? Oh wait

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#42 Posted by Emperorb777 (11292 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetruthiii: If IW's ending was permanent, you'd have a point.

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#43 Edited by Emanresu_20 (3006 posts) - - Show Bio

Honeslty Hulk would have come out. I get Hulk doesn’t want to help banner but he has to have the very basic understanding that if Banner dies he dies.

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#44 Posted by Nomar (1771 posts) - - Show Bio

All I see in this topic are people who are closeted racist thinking they are being slick with how they word their replies.

Also what you attribute to Wakanda is something that plagues pretty much all movies that have a threat that doesn't receive a response that is comparable to what our modern military could do. Heck even the Star Wars movies war scenes are laughable compared to what the numbers and destruction from our wars look like.

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#45 Edited by TheTruthIII (3316 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorb777 said:

@thetruthiii: If IW's ending was permanent, you'd have a point.

And if this thread was "Will Steve and everyone else die and stay dead foreverif Thor arrived 3 minutes late", then you might have a point. Alas, it is entirely possible for them not to survive Wakanda only to be resurrected in Avengers 4, regardless of it being a Disney movie

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#46 Edited by Nomar (1771 posts) - - Show Bio

@emanresu_20 said:

Honeslty Hulk would have come out. I get Hulk doesn’t want to help banner but he has to have the very basic understanding that if Banner dies he dies.

Except that if Banner dies. Hulk doesn't die. Hulk comes out and saves Banner from dying. This has been stated and shown within the movies.

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#47 Posted by Paytience (5022 posts) - - Show Bio

Generally speaking, If Tchalla hadnt broken the laws of his people to overthrow Killmonger, who was and still should be still rightfully king, this battle would of probably been entirely different.

As in...modern military tactics with Vibranium tech different.

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#48 Edited by rem (2742 posts) - - Show Bio

More damage would have been done if Wanda wouldnt have showed up.

but yeah, they probably would have died.

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@deltahuman said:

Now that I think about it, MCU Wakanda's offensive powers are pathetic. The only impressive thing they had was that energy shield surrounding the city which became useless later. War Machine alone destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandans combined.

Seriously what kind of a technologically super advanced nation fights alien foot soldiers with foot soldiers of their own wielding spears. Wakandans should've had a swarm of drones with energy weapons flying over the Outriders and blowing them to hell.

A squadron of US Air force Apache Gunships would've blown the Outriders to kingdom come. Tanks, Armoured vehicles, couple of M134s mounted on them would've obliterated them. Even North Korea would do better than Wakanda against those Outriders. I mean they weren't even super durable or anything. Bucky slaughtered many with his gun.

Truer words were never spoken. Fucking Nepal can do better