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-Thanos (Base)
-Kurse
-Hela
-Thor (Post-Ragnarok)
-Hulk
-Hulk Buster
-Abomination
-Thor (Pre-Ragnarok)
-Loki
-Thanos (Base) 175
-Kurse 160
-Hela 150
-Thor (Post-Ragnarok) 120
-Hulk 100
-Hulk Buster 90
-Abomination 90
-Thor (Pre-Ragnarok) 80
-Loki 60
Interesting, my list is quite different, in honesty I am utterly, utterly bewildered that people have placed Thanos above Kurse, can someone please explain this to me?
@miekskywalker I am totally, totally perplexed by your list, so many questions, but here are the ones that are making me pull faces:
You think this one side being only 40% stronger than the other
but this is one side being 150% stronger than the other
!?!?
Thor couldn't budge Kurse, Hulk was able to knock Thanos over (by surprise), but was also able to consistently knock Thanos back even after it was no longer a surprise.
Kurse's single punches were sending Thor back >100ft, Thanos' punches weren't even knocking Hulk back more than a couple of steps.
Who you think between Thanos and Kurse is stronger is another question (Thanos never fought pre-Ragnarok Thor and Kurse never fought post-Ragnarok Thor, so we can't really know), but you cannot deny that Kurse was stronger than Thor by more than Thanos was stronger than Hulk by. To say that Kurse is only 40% stronger than the Thor he fought, but Thanos was 150% stronger than Hulk here is really confusing me.
-Thanos (Base) - 150
-Kurse - 100
-Hela - 95
-Thor (Post-Ragnarok) - 100
-Hulk - 100
-Hulk Buster - 95
-Abomination - 90
-Thor (Pre-Ragnarok) - 95
-Loki - 60
Kurse no higher than Hulk, only 5 point higher than the Thor he fought.
You really think this is only a 5% difference?!
No, that's not how strength works. It is precisely about how far back you can knock people. In reality this and how much it hurts should be the same thing, but how much it hurts is influenced by things like pressure and where they're hit, how far they're knocked back is effected by only one thing, how much force they're hit with.
Why do you think it's about how much you get hurt? I find it bizaree to prioritise that over how far you're knocked back. A whip hurts, but it doesn't mean you're getting hit with as much force as something like a kick, which'll hurt less but knock you back much further.
"in reality it's based on who he can hurt or be hurted by." so you're saying that in reality how far you're knocked back has nothing at all to do with how hard you're hit. Sorry but that's asinine.
That's some really flawed logic there. Hulk has taken, without bleeding, hits from Thor with Mjolnir, hits from Thor with the sakaar hammer that sent him flying across the arena, lightning amped punches from Thor that created a massive shockwave, a skyscrapper falling on him, etc. But somehow that Thanos made him bleed but didn't sent him flying is a low showing??
You have to take into account that Thanos was already considered the most powerful individual in the universe BEFORE obtaining any of the gems. Why in the world would it be a low showing for Hulk to lose against him? This is the same Thanos that with punches alone destroyed Iron Man's suit (you know, the one that tanked a meteorite falling on him).
Tell me something, if someone, let's say DCEU Darkseid, made Superman bleed with a punch but didn't sent him flying, would you consider it a low showing for Superman?
No, that's not how strength works. It is precisely about how far back you can knock people. In reality this and how much it hurts should be the same thing, but how much it hurts is influenced by things like pressure and where they're hit, how far they're knocked back is effected by only one thing, how much force they're hit with.
Why do you think it's about how much you get hurt? I find it bizaree to prioritise that over how far you're knocked back. A whip hurts, but it doesn't mean you're getting hit with as much force as something like a kick, which'll hurt less but knock you back much further.
"in reality it's based on who he can hurt or be hurted by." so you're saying that in reality how far you're knocked back has nothing at all to do with how hard you're hit. Sorry but that's asinine.
That's some really flawed logic there. Hulk has taken, without bleeding, hits from Thor with Mjolnir, hits from Thor with the sakaar hammer that sent him flying across the arena, lightning amped punches from Thor that created a massive shockwave, a skyscrapper falling on him, etc. But somehow that Thanos made him bleed but didn't sent him flying is a low showing??
You have to take into account that Thanos was already considered the most powerful individual in the universe BEFORE obtaining any of the gems. Why in the world would it be a low showing for Hulk to lose against him? This is the same Thanos that with punches alone destroyed Iron Man's suit (you know, the one that tanked a meteorite falling on him).
Tell me something, if someone, let's say DCEU Darkseid, made Superman bleed with a punch but didn't sent him flying, would you consider it a low showing for Superman?
You're mixing bits of what I'm saying with bits of what you're saying...
Neither of us is saying: knock back=pain <==> no knock back=no pain
"You have to take into account that Thanos was already considered the most powerful individual in the universe BEFORE obtaining any of the gems."
Lol what!? I'm assuming you're referring to Korath's quote, which is meaningless, he was either mistaken or meant 'power' as in 'influence' (i.e. Trump has a lot more 'power' than me, but he couldn't beat me in a fight). Thanos is not above Celestials, Surtur and I'd argue Hela/Odin too.
"Tell me something, if someone, let's say DCEU Darkseid, made Superman bleed with a punch but didn't sent him flying, would you consider it a low showing for Superman?"
No, I'd consider a low strength showing for Darkseid.
Are you disputing physics?! It's Newton's second law, F=ma. Force is proportional to acceleration, low acceleration (low knock back)=low force, this is indisputable. A whip hurts, but it has low knock back because it's about pressure rather than force.
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