IF Ignia or Selene will absorb Dogramag´s Heart,will they surpass RoT Acnologia?

I personaly think yes because a DG Heart should boost your stats higher as RoT

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Maybe assuming that’s why they’re after it

Probably, at least surpass pre RoT Acnologia.

@paxa: Why is that? The RoT was too strong for Acnologia to handle, meaning that it surpassed even Acnos power. Dogramags heart would need to be much superior to Pre-RoT Acnologia which he Isn't because Elefseria stated that he is the weakest DG.

Most likely. They, at least Ignia, scale above Acnologia prior to that amp. And it's inevitable that Ignia will be the strongest villain.

most likely no even pre-SBT. They do know only PL of Acno version, which they saw last time 400 years ago. While Acno got far stronger even between 7 year skip.

Probably yeah.

Unlikely. Dogramag is explicitly the weakest DG. RoT's power was above Acnologia's, and it even split him into 2.

Dunno, we'll see.

Aged like Milk

@legend9384: I find it most likely that Ignia wins this fight and even if he doesn’t win he can still grow stronger by the end.

Assuming Ignia survives this arc

@paxa: Why wouldn’t he make through this arc? He’s gonna be Natsu’s endgame opponent obviously. Come on now.

What do you mean there's no evidence? How many times does Ignia have to talk about fighting Natsu eventually but the latter is too weak?

@legend9384:

and natsu will magically become that strong by the end of the series and not during this arc? just because natsu is too weak doesn't mean that he wont get stronger later in the arc by acquiring a new transformation, when natsu fought hades he was too weak but then gained a new transformation, same can happen if he fights ignia this arc

No? In his current state he was being overwhelmed by Suzaku, the latter even pointed out that during their fight Natsu was losing. Heck, even Natsu knew that if he didn't fight defensively, he would've been killed.

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Ignia is so far above these two it's not even close. He laughs off Natsu's flames and the completely incapacitates them for a short period of time.

Notice how this interaction is Ignia as a human, what's going to happen when he turns into a full dragon?

Your Hades analogy is also quite flawed because Natsu didn't defeat him with his power alone. Aside from having Laxus + his team back him up, I don't even need to explain it, Hades does it for me.

like i said, ignia being natsus final boss is headcanon

Your words alone don't warrant proof.

@legend9384:

till headcanon that ignia is natsus final boss, no proof that natsu will get that strong by the end of the series he could get that strong during this arc or maybe ignia would get killed during his fight with selene

Something which you have not proven.

natsu had a secret power when he fought suzaku (dragon force and dragon scales) so he might have one for ignia as well

Lol you accuse others of headcanon then say this?

anywyas ignia being natsus final boss is still headcanon as it has zero evidence backing it up

Aside from Ignia multiple times saying he wants to fight until one of them drops dead, sure.

@legend9384: Dude, you’re the only one who thinks it’s head cannon. It’s obvious him and Natsu are gonna fight 1v1. That alone is enough. If anything you have no evidence yourself.

@sleekcyber:

Something which you have not proven.

neither have you, prove that natsu will fight him at the end of the series and not this arc oh thats right you cant because you arent mashima are you

Lol you accuse others of headcanon then say this?

learn what headcanon means, natsu literally used dragon scales against suzaku and dragon force against aldoron, obviously the part where i said that natsu has a secret move to use against ignia is headcanon but still no different then you claiming without any evidence that ignia is gonna be natsus final boss

Aside from Ignia multiple times saying he wants to fight until one of them drops dead, sure.

cool thats not proof that he is gonna be the endgame boss, just a lot more headcanon and he didnt say it multiple times

@legend9384: Aldoron and Neinhart don’t have that level of Villainy like Ignia, so bringing them up is irrelevant. They were obviously not final bosses so that’s a terrible example and comparison.

You think what you want while we think what we want, simple. We can easily call yours headcanon too so I wouldn’t go there if I were you, fair enough?

@legend9384: They are building up to their eventual clash, that's the difference between Natsu's fights with the people you mentioned, and his fight with Ignia. It's being built up. It's like Zoro vs Mihawk. Ignia has shown to be superior to Natsu and Natsu wants to get strong enough to beat him since he isn't at the moment.

@legend9384:

neither have you, prove that natsu will fight him at the end of the series and not this arc oh thats right you cant because you arent mashima are you

Yet Mashima has repeatedly written that they're eventually going to fight and it's not going to be right now because Natsu's fire can't even tickle Ignia.

learn what headcanon means, natsu literally used dragon scales against suzaku and dragon force against aldoron, obviously the part where i said that natsu has a secret move to use against ignia is headcanon but still no different then you claiming without any evidence that ignia is gonna be natsus final boss

Lmao you can't make this up. First you tell me to learn what headcanon is and now you admit to spewing headcanon. Kek.

cool thats not proof that he is gonna be the endgame boss, just a lot more headcanon and he didnt say it multiple times

It proves that they're eventually going to fight and it won't be now as per Ignia's own words.

This is quite a Argument going on

We shall never know as Ignia Destroyed it and it was apparently part of his plan (Oh hi Aizen) Selene might of gotten stronger but unless Last ages gets used it shall never be known

@legend9384: So your argument is that Ignia will fight Natsu but it won't be the final fight? From a story point of view, it would be best if Natsu's final fight was against someone he had some kind of connection to rather than some newly introduced OP Character.