@rdcdesmond: naruto has better feats visually AND planetary statements. There's also no reason to scale ichigo to ywhach or SK's planetary feats.
Ichigo (true bankai+hos) vs Naruto (baryon mode) vs luffy (gear 5)
@rdcdesmond: naruto has better feats visually AND planetary statements. There's also no reason to scale ichigo to ywhach or SK's planetary feats.
Tbh neither Naruto nor Ichigo are Planet level... is just the sad truth that the fanboys gave to accept.
@kajin_style: luffy actually have disadvantage in speed ,and durability can go either way cuz just like luffy can cover with haki,so can other too with there powers i won't give that someone particular and rate of attack goes to Naruto cuz he can do rasengan barrage with his shadow clones and stamina goes to Ichigo he has always been fighting nonstop one enemy after another , though others things i might think goes to luffy probably
ETSB doesn't scale to their AP obviously. And are you joking about BSM Naruto being stronger than Nika Luffy and Ichigo?
New account, so I am gonna assume that you are a troll but still reply.
I know that etsb doesn't scale to their ap, but if you want to scale ichigo to planetary through yhwach's chain reaction feat, then etsb should be on the table. that would be fair for both verses. if you accept one then you are biased.
I don't need to joke about BSM when he has better on panel feats then either luffy or Ichigo, that's a fact, not an opinion.
@deyyy: exactly.
Ichigo is universal + after cutting the chains of hell and scaling off characters who can destroy infinite sized realms.
Honest truth that we get if we’re using naruto type logic to get him to planet we have a universal + Ichigo and an outerversal arc in one of the movies that transcends space time.
But not only does Ichigo have his own feats proving he’s at least bare minimum above country level, using naruto we have high universal for hurting beings that can bust these realms and fuse them together (and that’s like the most genuine universal bleach stuff for Yhwach to fuse realms, because not only is he fusing 2 different types of matter but things that encompass all of these realms, which the living realm is universal in size. That’s a no brainer)
OT: as for what I believe? I put him at below planet level in AP/DC, I’m going to watch hell verse again to remember some feats (since it’s canon)
ETSB doesn't scale to their AP obviously. And are you joking about BSM Naruto being stronger than Nika Luffy and Ichigo?
New account, so I am gonna assume that you are a troll by still reply.
I know that etsb doesn't scale to their ap, but if you want to scale ichigo to planteray through yhwach's chain reaction feat, then etsb should be on the table. that would be fair for both verses. if you accept one then you are biased.
I don't need to joke about BSM when he has better on panel feats then either luffy or Ichigo, that's a fact, not an opinion.
Yeah man Yhwach destroying all three worlds(lowball) is truly a chain reaction along with destroying a separate space time.
@kingogkings777: Also kaguya….we’ll I’m pretty sure she offed ishikki a stronger version of jigen who was going to die from using it.
@kingogkings777: Also kaguya….we’ll I’m pretty sure she offed ishikki a stronger version of jigen who was going to die from using it.
Yep, that Jigen was stronger then the current one.
Multiversal level Yhwach gets blinked by Outerversal level Shinra sadly
Bruh those type of fights are confusing to a certain degree cause of the almighty and the yourself.
ETSB doesn't scale to their AP obviously. And are you joking about BSM Naruto being stronger than Nika Luffy and Ichigo?
New account, so I am gonna assume that you are a troll but still reply.
I know that etsb doesn't scale to their ap, but if you want to scale ichigo to planetary through yhwach's chain reaction feat, then etsb should be on the table. that would be fair for both verses. if you accept one then you are biased.
I don't need to joke about BSM when he has better on panel feats then either luffy or Ichigo, that's a fact, not an opinion.
Post the evidence that it’s a chain reaction or stop saying this nonsense, it’s border-lining on ignorance at this point.
Post the evidence.
Multiversal level Yhwach gets blinked by Outerversal level Shinra sadly
Bruh those type of fights are confusing to a certain degree cause of the almighty and the yourself.
True
Ichigo is far above planet level in AP, we have on panel planetary destruction (the boundaries were being destroyed without the Soul King’s energy, same boundaries that can withstand small planet level explosions with no damage).
Keep beckoning for feats.
We all know a planet hasn’t been blown up in Bleach, or Naruto, so why the hell are you asking for these types of feats as if it means anything, or it’s some type of solid argument?
Ichigo has Reiryoku far surpassing planet level (fact), likely pushing him into the large planet level ranges by evidence. This scales to his AP via the Bleaxh power systems. This means he can treat BYM Naruto the same way he treated Butterfly Aizen. He treats Luffy far worse, almost being able to Reiatsu crush him and make him kneel if he wants.
Ichigo>Naruto>>>>>>Luffy.
ETSB doesn't scale to their AP obviously. And are you joking about BSM Naruto being stronger than Nika Luffy and Ichigo?
New account, so I am gonna assume that you are a troll by still reply.
I know that etsb doesn't scale to their ap, but if you want to scale ichigo to planteray through yhwach's chain reaction feat, then etsb should be on the table. that would be fair for both verses. if you accept one then you are biased.
I don't need to joke about BSM when he has better on panel feats then either luffy or Ichigo, that's a fact, not an opinion.
Yeah man Yhwach destroying all three worlds(lowball) is truly a chain reaction along with destroying a separate space time.
This guy is trolling at this point, he never posts anything, never provides evidence, he just says things.
Bro, who cares if BSM Naruto has better feats than Ichigo? He also has better feats than Isshiki too, and BSM Naruto also has better on panel feats than Kaguya.
Ulquiorra has better feats than Aizen, and Aschetomy Gerard.
This is the worst logic I’ve ever seen, because obviously you have to say ‘Kaguya scales above characters below her’ which is common sense, yet you still continue to say this argument over and over? Why?
I don’t need to cope my guy, you don’t believe in AP or at least my version (the normal version) of AP, so we are gonna disagree inherently.
Obviously, Ulquiorra>>>>>>Butterfly Aizen.
show actual proof fodders like momoshiki and kinshiki come close to prime madara instead of wanking boruto verse
show actual proof fodders like momoshiki and kinshiki come close to prime madara
It has nothing to do with this thread my guy.
show actual proof fodders like momoshiki and kinshiki come close to prime madara
It has nothing to do with this thread my guy.
show proof BYM fodder naruto who only scales above boruto fodders compares to naruto god tiers
@kelchingout: Nope all are at least outerversal.
Arent they all like country level
They aren’t country level (Bleach and Naruto), stating they are is almost mind boggling at this point.
Its like when old people say ‘back in my day’. Who cares? You’re wrong.
They aren’t country level (Bleach and Boruto*), stating they are is almost mind boggling at this point.
Its like when old people say ‘back in my day’. Who cares? You’re wrong.
why would boruto be country level?
@kajin_style: luffy actually have disadvantage in speed ,and durability can go either way cuz just like luffy can cover with haki,so can other too with there powers i won't give that someone particular and rate of attack goes to Naruto cuz he can do rasengan barrage with his shadow clones and stamina goes to Ichigo he has always been fighting nonstop one enemy after another , though others things i might think goes to luffy probably
Eh...
Yes, Naruto can do a Rasengan barrage but that'll take several steps:
- Summoning the clones
- Having the clones charge up Rasengan
- Charging at Luffy/Or throwing the rasengan.
Anywhere in those steps Luffy can just do a Gatling attack to stop it. Hell Snakeman Black mamba barrage will definitely prevent any clones from doing anything:
In that kind of barrage, Naruto can't do anything. Nor has he faced such a barrage of attacks. Funny enough Ichigo has some experience with barrage attacks like when he faced Byakuya bankai. Those pedals were insane, but peddles are not fists that fly with a mind of their own.
@cvuser377: yea! peak one piece chapter! goat oda! goat luffy!
just finished hellverse, but i have one question; so how big was hell?
Depending on size a standard black getsuga can range from country-level in length to continental.
And that's coming from a weaker version of ichigo with just his hollow mask.
just finished hellverse, but i have one question; so how big was hell?
Depending on size a standard black getsuga can range from country-level in length to continental.
And that's coming from a weaker version of ichigo with just his hollow mask.
Town sized
just finished hellverse, but i have one question; so how big was hell?
Depending on size a standard black getsuga can range from country-level in length to continental.
And that's coming from a weaker version of ichigo with just his hollow mask.
based on this diagram, it should be smaller than the world of the living
@rdcdesmond: naruto has better feats visually AND planetary statements. There's also no reason to scale ichigo to ywhach or SK's planetary feats.
Ichigo also has statements he does scale to SK Ywach. If SK Ywach didn’t have Hax of coming back Ichigo would have killed him
@dragonkin: I did read it. Its nonsense, that won't happen. It's Oda disrespect.
just finished hellverse, but i have one question; so how big was hell?
Depending on size a standard black getsuga can range from country-level in length to continental.
And that's coming from a weaker version of ichigo with just his hollow mask.
Town sized
Town size ? I thought you were a bleach debater. You must be a one piece or one punch man debater if not a bleach one.
@rdcdesmond: being able to kill someone=/=having the same destructive potential
just finished hellverse, but i have one question; so how big was hell?
Depending on size a standard black getsuga can range from country-level in length to continental.
And that's coming from a weaker version of ichigo with just his hollow mask.
Hellverse is non canon, unfortunately
@ninjarizer: but hasn’t kubo gone on record saying it was?
@ninjarizer: but hasn’t kubo gone on record saying it was?
It wasn’t the Hellverse movie, it was the Memories of Nobody movie.
If Hellverse was canon, threads like these wouldn’t exist, because everyone and their mothers would be planet level in Bleach from scaling above VL Ichigo.
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