@worldofruin6:
I think dispersing a continental sized cloud bank with the shockwave of a semi serious punch is better and more battle applicable. That's without even getting into the fact that he did this with the power leftover from punching through a bare minimum small country level beam(look below).
It’s not as quantifiable as the moon feat discounting the CSRC.
What is unquantifiable about it? The difference in power needed to vape clouds as opposed to stone can be calced but there is no need. Saiatama's shockwaves have already vaped solid rock so there is no reason to think his far stronger punch can't achieve the same.
Eh, I'm not going to get into the size of said "nation"
Good thing you don’t have to “get into” anything. We both know the “visuals” argument is just blatant downplay.
Oh boy....
but that would only be a TK feat that isn't even battle applicable as Yhwach never used his TK offensively iirc.
He used offensive TK before we even got to see his face.
How do we know that he used TK? People do similar things all the time in fiction without tk. Cultivators blood mist eachother with mere pressure. How can u instantly assume he used TK?
Ichigo doesn't have TK so he wouldn't scale to this feat anyways.
Ichigo rivaled and pushed Yhwach to resort to the Almighty it’s obvious he scales above Yhwach’s TK.
No......
If a TK user pressures a TK user in a battle of tk, said tk user scales to the other's TK. Ichigo and Yhwach fought solely with physical and energy attacks.
I don't remember how long it took either. Scans?
Seconds.
OK. This doesn't affect the battle but ask and you shall receive.
I take this statement seriously cuz there is no reason not to.
There aren’t any reasons to not take the Bleach ones serious.
Not the reasonable ones. But the ones that the Bleach fanbase try to wank, yeah. Yama was going to destroy SS with his bankai. There's no reason to doubt this but then people try to scale other characters to Yama's bankai which is moot when only he has his bankai and it would have only destroyed SS if left unchecked. Alot of Bleach statements are inconsistent, wanked, or taken out of context. The Yama one is taken out of context a good bit.
And btw I do take the OPM statements seriously but your “reasons” for them being valid and Bleach ones not being valid are terribly hypocritical.
I never said my reasons for the Bleach statements being invalid. You are putting words in my mouth.
Saitama casually vaped a continental sized cloud bank with the shockwave of a punch while not even remotely serious.
We get that it wasn’t his full power but it’s literally called his serious punch stop saying it wasn’t serious when Saitama literally names his attacks based on the difficulty it takes to perform them.
Yeah, but the punch took no effort, it was just like a normal punch but stronger. Boros even says more than once that Saitama never went all out. I thought you didn't doubt these statements? He can call it a serious punch all he wants but until he exerts some actual effort, it can only realistically be considered a semi serious punch. You know, like a serious punch thrown halfheartedly. You know, exactly what he did.
It doesn't seem crazy that Boros' most powerful attack that drains his life-force could reach this level of power.
Boros himself has no feats other than wrecking his ship. Draining his life force does not help support surface wiping levels of power.
I just mean portrayal. In this same fight, a holding back Saiatama vapes a continental cloud bank and leaves a country sized crater on the moon. Saiatama was never serious and did all of this. Why would we doubt the statement of the strongest character introduced since the MC during his fight with the OP MC where some of the best feats in the series happen. There is also the fact that the leftover beam was small country-country level.
It is also in the databooks and nothing really contradicts it.
Nothing contradicts Bleach statements.
Lightning speed SS arc Ichigo- A far stronger FKT arc visored Ichigo was barely mach 1000.
3 day Los Noches- Massively inconsistent with visuals.
I only takes statements when they are consistent.
We saw that just the leftover power from the beam that scattered from Saiatama's punch still had small country-country level DC in the same scan that Saiatama performs his "serious' punch(look back above to the scan I posted or watch the anime).
The level of DC that the actual cloud dispersión feat requires is at best in the Island levels.
Boros' passive energy had been shown to melt the heat resistant metal of his ship. We have no reason to doubt that if his beam hit the ground, the same amount of material would have been destroyed. Saying otherwise is just blatant lowballing. You can't use this to lowball Saitama either cuz his normal punch shockwaves have vaped solid rock.
You‘re not about tell me it takes the equivalent of 2,000,000 Tsar bombs combined to disperse clouds over a large distance without any evidence.
Look above.
The rest of your post involves things you have no capability of refuting. Don’t make me waste my time explaining something just for you to run away with your tail stuck between your legs.
Good ol Leo being needlessly rude. I already said I'm not going to attempt to change your mind. Do u even have a reason for tagging me? We are already going off topic with this slowly becoming about you whining about how u are in the vast majority regarding anything regarding Bleach cuz you are simply too biased. U literally said u accept statements from OPM but then want to argue the validity of Boros' statement. Don't reply unless you plan to drop the tough guy facade and be civil. We are debating fictional characters. Geez...
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