Ichigo forms vs Ichigo forms

So Bleach is confusing as hell with Ichigo, but out of all these forms, which do you rate in a fight to come 1st place to last?

Rate the forms best to worst in a fight.

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Dangai vs Mugetsu vs Vasto Lorde vs Hollow Mask vs Bankai vs Fullbring Shikai vs Quincy

(top to bottom= first to last)

Mugetsu= Quincy

Dangai

Vasto Lorde

Hollow Mask

Bankai (after he gets his powers back)

Fullbring

Mugetsu for now. Though based on hype and statements quincy should be stronger though we have yet to see him do anything that suggests he is stronger than mugetsu.

1. Mugetsu

2. Dangai

3. Vasto Lorde

4. Quincy (what's been shown, his full power may be 1 or 2)

5. Hollow Mask

6. Bankai

7. Fullbring

I still think Vasto Lorde is above Dangai.

Based on his showings...

Mugetsu (if that one hit lands, otherwise it's gg for him)

Dangai

Vasto Lorde

Hollow mask

Bankai

Shikai

Fullbring.

He lost his powers and got them back once, his bankai after that is considered slightly stronger.

Current ichigo wields a dual blade, and is supposed to be the strongest, but doesn't have the showings to back that up.

@106me: 0_0

@sirfizzwhizz From weakest to strongest (IMO):

• O.G. "Rukia stabbed me" Ichigo
• O.G. Shikai
• Fullbring
• "The lieutenants and captains gave me their power" Shikai
• O.G. Bankai
• Vizard
• "The lieutenants and captains gave me their power" Bankai (might have to flip this and Vizard; kinda hard to tell which was stronger)
• Vasto Lorde
• Dangai
• Mugetsu
• Quincy* (This is where I assume it will be after some more showings; Yhwach said that Ichigo's reiatsu was so immense, it was taking visible form)

Mugetsu > Dangai > Vasto Lorde > Quincy > Fullbring > Hollow Mask >=< Bankai > shikai

With both feats (and statements) involved

Mugetsu =/> Current (it's more a mix than just quincy) > Dangai > Vasto Lorde > Hollow Mask > Bankai > Fullbring Shikai

EDIT: Though Current (at full potential) would beat Mugetsu in a fight.

current ichigo is the strongest.

All this "showings" nonsense is to be expected on comicvine though.

@blackestnight93: @alextheboss: @princearagorn1: @indomitableregal: @katanalauncher: @just_banter: @drmagic: Thanks for the ratings.

@sirfizzwhizz: Np mate

@omni_troll: for all we know Ichigo might get another power up before he even stands a chance against Juha Bach. Also even at full power, without using his bankai, he is still most likely weaker than Dangai Ichigo.

I can agree to that....maybe

Well the new bleach chapters pretty much prove aizen is stronger than ichigo(quincy) and dangai stomped aizen

@hittheassasin: Ehm no, there is nothing in the recent chapters to prove that aizen is stronger than current ichigo.

The strongest Ichigo

@grappolo: its heavily inplied.Also juha didnt stomp aizen in one shot like be did to ichigo

@hittheassasin: Aizen was gaining power though current Aizen would stomp dangai.

Aizen

@jadenlol: its said he improved but dangai was literally in another league than aizen

@hittheassasin: It's not even implied, and yuha never fought aizen for real. the entire chapter was just an illusion to distract yuha and give to ichigo a chance to hit him.

@hittheassasin: no it stated he was gaining a hell of a lot of power and dangai wasn't that much powerful than monster Aizen his Fragor burnt his arm.

@jadenlol: actually aizen said he still couldnt sense ichigos reiatsu even in monster form and it never really said how much aizen improved

Current Hollow Quincy > Current Bankai > Final Mugetsu > Dangai = Current Shikai > Vasto Lorde > Hollow Mask > Fullbring

Bach says to Ichigo that he retained the power he used to defeat Aizen with, and Ichigo was only using Shikai at that time. After his squad zero training he reached the battlefield from the soul king palace in a few hours. That's like traveling from earth to the moon. The fastest rocket at 25,000 miles per hours takes 15 hours to reach the Moon. Ichigo made it from the Soul King Palace to Soul Society within a few hours logically I'll say 3 hours, since he left before the actual battle begin. The travel is easily one of the fastest feats in bleach and he did it in Shikai Form. His Shikai form also repelled attacks from string Quincies, who were giving a beat up Zabuza a hard time. Not to mention how Shikai form just tanks bachs blows lol

@superdragonfly9:

His Shikai form also repelled attacks from string Quincies, who were giving a beat up Zabuza a hard time. Not to mention how Shikai form just tanks bachs blows lol

Zabuza went from Naruto to the Bleach universe?

Least to greatest in my opinion would probably be something like:

Fullbring Shikai

Bankai (Though these first two are close imho)

Hollow Mask

Vasto Lorde

Dangai

Mugetsu

Quincy.

There are a lot of forms though so yeah... bleach is confusing.

SS arc Shikai

SS arc bankai

Ulquiorra fight shikai (theoretical)

SS arc Possessed bankai

Ulquiorra fight Bankai

Ulquiorra fight vizord bankai

Gin fight shikai (theoretical)

Complete Fullbring

Gin fight bankai

Vasto Lorde

Gin fight vizord bankai

FB Shikai

FB bankai

Dangai trained

Mugetsu

True shikai

True shikai hollow merged with quincy powers

True bankai

True bankai hollow merged with quincy power (theoretical)

finally we agree on something.

alot of people dont take into consideration that each time he gets a new mask his Bankai becomes more powerful

Bankai Ichigo( Pre Vizard/Visored training) vs. Base Grimmjow- Grimmjow is having a field day

1st mask Ichigo vs Base Grimmjow one arm- Grimmjow is able to keep up and not get blitzed but is still getting overpowered

Bankai Ichigo(2nd mask amp) vs Base Grimmjow- They are equal

2nd mask Bankai Ichigo vs Ressurecion Grimmjow- Ichigo beats Grimmjow in a high to extreme diff fight

2nd mask Bankai Ichigo vs Base Ulquiorra-They are equal

2nd mask Ichigo vs r1 and r2 Ulquiorra- Ulquiorra shows him despair

Torn Bankai Ichigo(vasto lorde mask/3rd mask amp) vs. Ressurecion Yammy(Who at the very least should be stronger than R1 Ulquiorra) he is able to react and not get blitzed, can even stop his attacks dead in his tracks and even smacks him with a getsuga

Vasto Lorde/3rd mask Torn Bankai Ichigo he completey wrecks Yammy with a getsuga

@skysanji: biggest problem with Bleach isn't in verse scaling it's stacking power next to other universes and that's where major complications take place. I'll be stcking to Bleach vs Bleach threads from now on, my opinions differs too much from the majority

Ichigo forms wins.

Without using every powerup (like TheBalance and skysanji did), from the strongest to weakest:

1. True Bankai Hollow Merged (needs a shorter name)
2. True Bankai (this form is theoretical, as Ichigo jumped from HM Shikai to True Bankai HM)
3. Hollow Merged True Shikai
4. True Shikai
5. Mugetsu?FGT
6. Dangai
7. Zangetsu/Vasto Lorde
8. Vizored Fake Bankai
9. Fullbring Fake Bankai
10. Fake Bankai
11. Fullbring Fake Shikai
12. Fake Shikai
13. Rukia powered Shikai

@thebalance: I would put Vasto Lorde above Gin fight vizord bankai and FB Shikai, I agree on the rest.

How is Bleach confusing as hell with Ichigo Forms? It's pretty obvious that Mugetsu>True Form>=Dangai>Vasto Lorde>Visored>Bankai>Fullbring

@faradaysloth: lol thats wrong tho

@thebalance: That's not wrong.

@faradaysloth: it's hard to put a cap on mugetsu but I'm ok with it being above his true form. It's not like a multiplier to anything it's just a getsuga that uses all of Ichigo's spirit energy. You could say it's potency is the combined power of all the getsugas dangai Ichigo could fire before running out of spirit energy and that's way too much to count (cuz he should be firing for weeks/months) so you could say it's still above everything (note in terms of reiatsu level, he's still dangai Ichigo, just realeasing more than subconscious reiatsu) but by no means is dangai Ichigo even close to true form Ichigo. Yhwach said he attained his true original power which means he now has power beyond every previous form and he clearly said he wasn't using the almighty so he's just basing it off his reiatsu level and that was his base.

What do you suppose Vasto Lorde Ichigo is? Just the manifestation of Ichigo's hollow powers which means vizard Ichigo is VL Ichigo but the difference in power is obvious, look at the cloak and you'll see how inferior VL is to vizord Ichigo. He got a massive power boost and he should be fighting at that level but White just used that power first so he technically seemed superior when he's not.

I'm assuming you're using the latest versions of these forms and in this case, fullbring Ichigo should have reiatsu comparable to FKT bankai. I'm assuming Tsukishima could still sense Ginjo (who is comfortably a transcendent) which would put him in the 'transition range' and FKT bankai is more or less the bare minimum of this range. It also explains why Orihime and Chad could sense Quilge despite him transcending the 1st tier. You could say the people of that arc range from the transition range onward which suggests power at absolute top espada level to beyond Monster Aizen.

Mugetsu still creams Eos.

@faradaysloth: mugetsu shouldn't be stronger than his true power. It should be roughly equal to his merged hollow form since dangai=true shikai.

His true merged bankai should be stronger than the rest imo

Using the pictures in the OP

Mugetsu<=>Quincy

Dangai

Vasto lorde

Fullbring shikai

Hollow mask

Bankai.

This or Dangai > Mugetsu > Vaste Lorde > others