Ichigo and Ishida vs Naruto and Sasuke

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Ichigo and Ishida

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each team from after their final battle, like say a week after so they'd be fresh, the ninjas got the arms back, and they can see ichigo and fight him (say he can use his shinigami powers as human now he knows he¡s part quincy if you need a reason)

fight in character, in the soul society, in the forest, one day prep, vic by any mean

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Mismatch

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Either Naruto and Sasuke can solo

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#5  Edited By grappolo

yes, mismatch.

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Heavy Mismatch

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Mismatch.

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@shadowpro: Its a mismatch because there's no possible arguement for Bleach duo. They're outclassed in every possible regard.

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Sasuke looks at them GG.

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#11  Edited By ShadowPro

@hulkage: @grappolo: @theonlytruth: @nobunaga101: @thelocust619: @americanspeeddemon: @bubblebass:

is clear you haven't read bleach, or even worse never reead the end, whatever damage sasuke or narutp can inflict on them ishida can send it back with his Antithesis like he did with jugram

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I mean, if not because of plot the fight would have been:

Jugram : I got you, Ishida Uryu!!

Ishida : Thats cute! My ability reflect all the damage upon me back to you!

Jugram : I see, yours is truly a magnificent ability. But my power reflect your reflection!

Repeat and rinse

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Yeah antithesis is the only way Bleach team wins.

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@shadowpro: Doesn't Ishida have to pretty much "tank it" in order to send it back

that being said he won't be able to survive the damage output that team 2 possess

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Mismatch

And ishida literally didn't become a decent combatant until the finala rc and even then his best move is pretty much depending on him not getting one shotted

Change this to Naruto and Sasuke Right before the great Ninja war and it would be fairer IMO

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@shadowpro: That's a worthless ability here, as he has to survive the damage. He can't against even the weakest attacks Nardo & Sauce have.

So, yes, still a mismatch.

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@shadowpro: What they said. I'm not being lazy, I woulda said the same things they did anyway but why bother. I will give you that if Ishida had time to explain his ability, Naruto might possibly be dumb enough consider attacking himself as a counter lmao

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#17  Edited By ShadowPro

@stormshadow_x: right, the guy who almost killed a captain of the goteit 13 was not a capable fighter until the final arc

@marc_55: @thelocust619: @theonlytruth:the guy got his organs shattered once and survived, he has tanked worse than whatever they got, I'm pretty sure he can tank anything they can throw at him

not to mention those two can fly, something naruto and sasuke can't do, so pretty sure their attacks won't reach them for the long run

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Naruto and sasuke stomp

Mismatch

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@shadowpro: You mean he BARLEY beat the weakest of the captains combat wise who was already extremely cocky.

....and that was only AFTER using a move that crippled his abilities. Uryu, Renji, Chad, Rukia ( Ichigo's friends) all suffer from barley getting a chance to show themselves and either wait to be saved by Ichigo or another character.

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#20  Edited By nobunaga101

@shadowpro said:

@stormshadow_x: right, the guy who almost killed a captain of the goteit 13 was not a capable fighter until the final arc

Compared to the captains, Mayuri is lacking stat-wise and he's self absorbed. Defeating him isn't impressive at all TBH. Just because he has the title of a captain, doesn't mean he's as strong as a captain.

@marc_55: @thelocust619: @theonlytruth:the guy got his organs shattered once and survived, he has tanked worse than whatever they got, I'm pretty sure he can tank anything they can throw at him

Not only am I pretty damn sure that his reiatsu allowed him to survive this, but without energy equalised I don't see him tanking country busters from Naruto. Current Naruto's rasenshuriken variants could virtually one-shot him. Anymore than that and it's not really debatable TBH.

The only chance Ichigo would have of tanking their strongest attacks is if energy is equalised (and even then it's debatable whether he can tank it or not) but Naruto would literally crush him as he has higher reserves.

not to mention those two can fly, something naruto and sasuke can't do, so pretty sure their attacks won't reach them for the long run

Actually, Naruto and Sasuke can fly. Sasuke can only fly with his susanoo however. But as long as Naruto is in his bijuu form he can fly, and he also can with his Kurama avatar. So yes their attacks will reach the Bleach duo just fine.

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@nobunaga101: He's referring to Mayuri which still isn't as impressive when you think about the context.

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@nobunaga101: He's referring to Mayuri which still isn't as impressive when you think about the context.

Mayuri stat-wise is lacking and he's very self-absorbed... so you're right.

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@shadowpro: Crushed organs is not a particularly large amount of damage in shonen fiction, especially for main characters. The threat here isn't simply crushed organs, either: it's being completely vaporized, cut to pieces, burned alive, or having every cell in his body pierced at once. Ishida would die instantly in any of those situations, he's never taken that much damage.

Ishida can be hurt by multi-block level attacks, that's vastly outmatched here. Ichigo's last confirmed durability was somewhere around mountain level. Naruto and Sasuke are putting out Dangai levels of DC with taijutsu alone (even more: in fact: Ichigo and Aizen are plainly visible next to their large hills they vaporized, Naruto and Sasuke are completely invisible compared to the area their punches and kicks vaporize), their actual attacks are putting out country levels of damage while they can resist moon level attacks... This is paper vs steel, my dude.

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#24  Edited By Marc_55

@shadowpro: Lol, so he has some good endurance, though he only survived with Mayuri's help. That means nothing in the face of country razing attacks, the likes of which Bleach has never even seen before. Uryu and Ichigo would be wiped from their existence.

I find it funny you claimed others didn't read Bleach, yet you don't even know Nardo & Sauce can fly. Not only can Naruto and Sasuke fly, they don't need to. They have an immense range advantage, since some techniques can cover a country worth of area. Naruto could just literally drop a TBB at his feat, and Ichigo and Uryu would die horribly.

Also, even if they couldn't fly, pretty sure everyone here starts on the ground. So, a simple blitz and it's over.

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Naruto and Sasuke are faster and have considerably more DC and range of abilities. The only thing keeping them in this is Uyruu's schift.

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Naruto and Sasuke solo.

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Lol this guy just said Naruto or Sasuke can't fly after complaining to other users that they don't read Bleah.

Typical Bleach fan behavior.

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Bleach wank at it finest

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Team 2 decimates Team 1.

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I give up on these forums

Years ago:

Naruto fans- "dangai wrecks naruto so bad, even VL annihilates him"

Naruto gets like 50 times stronger

Naruto fans- "he wrecks Ichigo so bad its not even funny"

Ichigo gets like 100 times stronger than dangai

Naruto fans- "Naruto stomps Ichigo hard"

Bleach vs battles should be banned since people don't hv the slightest clue about the characters. I give up, u naruto fans r hopeless, u never listen to reasoning, and the Naruto hype literally made u less capable of seriously analyzing anything.

One fool decides to do some faulty analysis nd the nonsense spreads to the majority without second thought bcuz its convenient for them. Its apparent that people without the sufficient intellect to comprehend a statement, view it as foolishness thats y I'm always called a troll, I pity u all.

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@smartdude:

The Naruto Duo destroy here.

I've already tried to CAV you but you wouldn't that tells me how confident you are.

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@malzahaar: its just that neither sides can be convinced

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@smartdude: Sure they can.

It's just that you can't convince them becasue your dead wrong.

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These discussions r now senseless rambling that never get anywhere

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@malzahaar: I'm on to something,may not be 100% correct but I know what I'm saying.

Would u say u know alot about bleach?

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Ichigo solos b4 Uryu finishes his strategy. They both one shot really

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The only way I see the Bleach team winning is the antithesis. If Uryu dies before he can use it they are screwed.

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Team 2, I'd actually argue that either of them can solo.

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Ishida and Ichigo.

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Naruto solos. Sasuke solos. Mismatch.

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Mismatch, both can solo easy, make this BM naruto and EMS sasuke and it'll be more debatable.

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Either ninja solo

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Team two wins.

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Naruto solostomps with a clone while he's doing Hokage work.

Sasuke solostomps casually on his quest to find Kaguya.

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Naruto solostomps with a clone while he's doing Hokage work.

Sasuke solostomps casually on his quest to find Kaguya.

Well...

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@gear4god said:

Well...

I'm not wrong.

It’s not what you said, it’s the WAY you said it. Think about the feelings of Bleah fans before you speak ??

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Uryu can also reflect any damage they do to ichigo back on them and neither one of them can one shot ichigo especially Sasuke.