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#2  Edited By Sparda

Iceman can't really be hurt by Sub-Zero, so Bobby takes this one, IMO.

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#3  Edited By Nighthunter

iceman is way more powerful

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#4  Edited By warlock360

thats what i thought before MK: Armageddon Read the last part on my profile for further information.

Sure... bobby is omega level... but can he hold his own against a God!?

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#5  Edited By Sparda

Well, if he's a freaking Ice God, he should be able to hold his own against Bobby. Although Iceman's pretty much as close to a "Ice God" as you can get.

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#6  Edited By warlock360

hes close but he isnt.

im for Sub-Zero for the "God" factor^^

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#7  Edited By warlock360

he could basicly just take bobbys ice powers and kick @$$!

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#8  Edited By Vulcanmax

first things first,

I was under the assumption that you posted a battle forum with the intention of getting answer posed question blah vs blah not that you yourself would argue your own posed vs battle. It would be like me starting a thread about who is worse Cassandra Nova or Charles Xavier and I would be hard pressed to find someone out there who could convince me of my thinking that Charles is NOT an utter and thorough bastard.

That said,

How would you pose your Ice-God take Bobby's powers?

Bobby's Omega level powers are actually psionically manipulating energy's the form he he has used it so far is thermal as in dealing with water molecules. He could just as easily freeze Sub-zero's blood flow to the brain and be done with it.

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#9  Edited By warlock360

so ur basicly saying he can do that without touching him?

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#10  Edited By Static Shock

I thinking that whatever Sub Zero can do as an Ice God, Bobby could do better...

I'll go with Iceman. Sub Zero is tight, but I haven't seen him do anything spectacular as an 'Ice God' or anything that's on Iceman's level.


Post Edited:2007-12-09 15:54:41

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#11  Edited By warlock360

thats cuz its gonna happen in the next MK game the part when he went god was at the very end of Armageddon.

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#12  Edited By warlock360

Alexander Anderson says:

"The question really is: what can Sub Zero do with ice that Bobby can't?"

id say the question is what else can he do

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The question really is: what can Sub Zero do with ice that Bobby can't?

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#14  Edited By Static Shock

Warlock360 says:

"thats cuz its gonna happen in the next MK game the part when he went god was at the very end of Armageddon."

I don't see Sub-Zero as a god, anyway. He's a mortal to me. He can be killed like a mortal man. Iceman has to be killed on an atomic level (by Firestorm, Human Torch, Captain Atom, Silver Surfer, etc) or really can't be killed.

I'm not really into the new MK games. They suck to me. I prefer every MK game up until Mortal Kombat Trilogy. The one after that no longer had me interested.

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#15  Edited By warlock360

Static Shock says:

"Warlock360 says:
"thats cuz its gonna happen in the next MK game the part when he went god was at the very end of Armageddon."

I don't see Sub-Zero as a god, anyway. He's a mortal to me. He can be killed like a mortal man. Iceman has to be killed on an atomic level (by Firestorm, Human Torch, Captain Atom, Silver Surfer, etc) or really can't be killed.

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sub-zero is immortal right now and well iceman kinda is too... i was talking about who would win a random battle straight up not who would ULTIMATELY win by causing death, no but defeating the opponent.

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#16  Edited By Vulcanmax

@ Warlock,

Yeah I was basically saying that Bobby could do that to Sub-Zero without touching him. So far the only thing that seem to be able to stop Bobby would be the absence of moisture, but even this is questionable as he was still around in X-men 19_ after his body was shattered by Northstar but there wasn't enough moisture to reform his body. He himself wasn't done for.

Probably the earlier on Bobby would fail against Sub-Zero but the Bobby as of late would finish your Ice-God.

If they aren't winning by death, they could most likely go on for quiet sometime, since both have ice powers. Unless Bobby uses his to grow in size and thus also in strength which would make the entire combat a no contest. or to use the MK term your familiar with "Flawless Victory"

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#17  Edited By warlock360

Vulcanmax says:

"@ Warlock,Yeah I was basically saying that Bobby could do that to Sub-Zero without touching him. So far the only thing that seem to be able to stop Bobby would be the absence of moisture, but even this is questionable as he was still around in X-men 19_ after his body was shattered by Northstar but there wasn't enough moisture to reform his body. He himself wasn't done for.Probably the earlier on Bobby would fail against Sub-Zero but the Bobby as of late would finish your Ice-God.If they aren't winning by death, they could most likely go on for quiet sometime, since both have ice powers. Unless Bobby uses his to grow in size and thus also in strength which would make the entire combat a no contest. or to use the MK term your familiar with "Flawless Victory""

bobby basicly manipulates the element so what if bobby doesnt have enough to grow bigger and stronger (or let me put itlike this does he need water/ice/moisture to become bigger?)

if so then im sure it "could" happen. becuase sub-zero creates ice and well basicly iceman could feed from it as you say...

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#18  Edited By Vulcanmax

to answer your question

He uses moisture to enhance his body and by gaining size also the strength that comes with it.

So he will feed as you stated, on it he does want to win after all h2h combat wouldn't be a smart move on his half unless he has an edge.
Post Edited:2007-12-09 16:50:18

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#19  Edited By warlock360

so is it definate win or is it a draw?

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#20  Edited By DEADPOOL

Sadly, in power alone, Iceman dominates.

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#21  Edited By Vulcanmax

DEADPOOL says:

"Sadly, in power alone, Iceman dominates."

Agreed.

Win Iceman

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#22  Edited By warlock360

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#23  Edited By warlock360

read my page before posting

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#24  Edited By warlock360

ill come back to this thread after beaten the new MK then ill see if i can clearly make up my mind and give iceman the win but for now he won...(iceman) ...

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#25  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Iceman. Don't come back.

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#26  Edited By warlock360

<.< i will trust me

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#27  Edited By warlock360

as soon as i have something to compare with or have seen sub-zero's new potential ill make my Ultimate decision.

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#28  Edited By warlock360

no i wont =)

not yet

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Sub-Zero isnt an Ice God.

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#30  Edited By Static Shock

Dormammu says:

"And since he isnt an Ice God Iceman wins."

LMFAO!

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And since he isnt an Ice God Iceman wins.

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Static Shock says:

"Dormammu says:
"And since he isnt an Ice God Iceman wins."
LMFAO!"

What?

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#34  Edited By Phorqe

Mortal Kombat is full of "Gods." And they beat each other all the time. Gods get beaten by normal ass people in MK. Iceman could severely beat any of them, including Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero is a "god" that has ice powers. Iceman controls temperature. He's made up of ice. Is Sub-Zero impervious to being frozen? I'm pretty sure he's not. Drake takes this every time unless they were both depowered, in which case, Bobby would get murdered. That wasn't in the stipulations though, so Sub-Zero gets beaten, severely.

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#35  Edited By Static Shock

Dormammu says:

"Static Shock says:
"Dormammu says:
"And since he isnt an Ice God Iceman wins."
LMFAO!"

What?"

I just thought it funny how you said that. Warlock was trying to explain that Sub Zero was an Ice God. You immediately dismissed that claim and said that he wasn't. Thought it was funny.

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Sub-Zero isnt a god. There's Raiden and...Fujin? And Elder Gods-Shinnok, and the unnamed ones. But ya, Iceman wastes Sub-Zero.

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#37  Edited By Sparda

I think what Warlock was saying is that, at the end of the latest MK game, Sub-Zero becomes a literal god of ice. However, we can't base his abilities off of that because he didn't show any abilities in that form.

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#38  Edited By Static Shock

Sparda says:

"I think what Warlock was saying is that, at the end of the latest MK game, Sub-Zero becomes a literal god of ice. However, we can't base his abilities off of that because he didn't show any abilities in that form."

Exactly. Even if he is a so-called Ice God, we have seen him do anything god-like with those powers of his as of yet. Until then, Iceman wins.

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That's not the actual ending of the game, there's only one real ending-Taven defeating Blaze. All the endings for all the other characters are just showing what would happen if that character was actually the one to kill Blaze. Only Taven's ending is canon, the other ones are in a way non-canon.

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#40  Edited By Static Shock

Dormammu says:

"That's not the actual ending of the game, there's only one real ending-Taven defeating Blaze. All the endings for all the other characters are just showing what would happen if that character was actually the one to kill Blaze. Only Taven's ending is canon, the other ones are in a way non-canon."

Agreed

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#41  Edited By Sparda

Dormammu says:

"That's not the actual ending of the game, there's only one real ending-Taven defeating Blaze. All the endings for all the other characters are just showing what would happen if that character was actually the one to kill Blaze. Only Taven's ending is canon, the other ones are in a way non-canon."

Yeah, I know. But he's using this version just for this battle I guess.

Even so, I would have to give it to Iceman. Unless Sub-Zero could make and destroy all moisture on the entire planet, Iceman wouldn't lose.

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#42  Edited By Phantom Assassin

Iceman, I've seen him doing things that any MK fighter can't handle.

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#43  Edited By warlock360

Phorqe says:

"Mortal Kombat is full of "Gods." And they beat each other all the time. Gods get beaten by normal ass people in MK. Iceman could severely beat any of them, including Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero is a "god" that has ice powers. Iceman controls temperature. He's made up of ice. Is Sub-Zero impervious to being frozen? I'm pretty sure he's not. Drake takes this every time unless they were both depowered, in which case, Bobby would get murdered. That wasn't in the stipulations though, so Sub-Zero gets beaten, severely."

We are talking about the three elder gods that control wind water and fire and now Sub-Zero has become a "fourth" Elder God but since it happened without "permission" of the three elders, they simply deny his Godhood.

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#44  Edited By Rdeegvainl

Alexander Anderson says:

"The question really is: what can Sub Zero do with ice that Bobby can't?"

I'll answer that. Sub Zero can make ice at minus 500 degrees Fahrenheit. For those that don't know the significance of this, Absolute Zero is minus 459.67 Fahrenheit. Sub Zero can make things colder than ABSOLUTE ZERO. If bobby has, let me know cause I've never heard of it.

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#45  Edited By warlock360

thanks for the back up :D

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#46  Edited By cpt_linger

lets not leave out the fact that sub zero can kick some arse, ice or no ice. HOWEVER, if you simply sum up each characters capabilities against one another, bobby would freeze sub zero's ass, which is basically impossible, but i think iceman is cold enough to manage (can get his body to -105'F in a tenth of a second)

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#47  Edited By warlock360

nice

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#48  Edited By Static Shock

Rdeegvainl says:

"Alexander Anderson says:
"The question really is: what can Sub Zero do with ice that Bobby can't?"

I'll answer that. Sub Zero can make ice at minus 500 degrees Fahrenheit. For those that don't know the significance of this, Absolute Zero is minus 459.67 Fahrenheit. Sub Zero can make things colder than ABSOLUTE ZERO. If bobby has, let me know cause I've never heard of it."

I've never heard of Sub-Zero doing this either. Anyway, proof of Sub-Zero's claim, anyone?

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#49  Edited By warlock360

yeah its where his name came from so...

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#50  Edited By cpt_linger

there is no proof, the loser can't do s*$t. i did a wikipedia on his ass, and he is as useless as a teflon tyre. it just states his basic mortal kombat abilities: ica ball, ground freeze, clone freeze etc. pretty stock standard.

God of ice my ass