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#1  Edited By loadofmilark

Iceman vs. Firestorm ( Jason Rusch)

no prep

battle takes place here with opponents on either side

both have full knowledge off each others powers but not weaknesses i.e iceman powers running out

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#2  Edited By BMEZY

iceman for the majority

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#3  Edited By Pwok21

Firestorm, unless it's purely elemental in which Iceman would win.

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#4  Edited By _Black

Jason should win.

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#5  Edited By ghost_rider1

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

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#6  Edited By Kepiomenaz

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

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#7  Edited By ghost_rider1
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Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Yea...I just read up on him. Its not gonnaa beat iceman...he will jus immediately reform. Iceman powers are so vast that defeated powerful beings such as legion and oblivion. Firestorm not gonna be a problem
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#8  Edited By Jayfournines

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Kepiomenaz

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Yea...I just read up on him. Its not gonnaa beat iceman...he will jus immediately reform. Iceman powers are so vast that defeated powerful beings such as legion and oblivion. Firestorm not gonna be a problem

so if Firestorm turns him into dirt...then what?

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#9  Edited By willpayton

Even if Iceman cant be permanently killed, the OP doesnt say it has to be a victory by permanent death. So. presumably, Firestorm can still win by KO or simple one-time death.

Firestorm wins!

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#10  Edited By MasterM0r0n

Firestrom

@Kepiomenaz said:

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Agreed.

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Kepiomenaz

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Yea...I just read up on him. Its not gonnaa beat iceman...he will jus immediately reform. Iceman powers are so vast that defeated powerful beings such as legion and oblivion. Firestorm not gonna be a problem

Iceman can't "reform" into ice once he's transformed into chocolate pudding or whatever Firstorm desires to turn him into.

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@ghost_rider1 said:

@Kepiomenaz

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Yea...I just read up on him. Its not gonnaa beat iceman...he will jus immediately reform. Iceman powers are so vast that defeated powerful beings such as legion and oblivion. Firestorm not gonna be a problem

so if Firestorm turns him into dirt...then what?

I don't understand your question...

Once Iceman is turned into inorganic dirt, he can't do anything...? He's non-existent. What must you be trying to say?

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close fight but I think I'm going with Firestorm for now

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@WillPayton said:

Even if Iceman cant be permanently killed, the OP doesnt say it has to be a victory by permanent death. So. presumably, Firestorm can still win by KO or simple one-time death.

Firestorm wins!

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@Jayfournines: Bobby's body has little bearing on it. His consciousness is the issue, I am not sure what Firestorm could do, then again not sure if Bobby can override Firestorm's own control.

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#14  Edited By usmuscle

Firestorm all day.

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#15  Edited By ghost_rider1
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@ghost_rider1 said:

@Kepiomenaz

@ghost_rider1 said:

Iceman can prevent fire users from using their powers I think. Iceman wins

...Firestorms power isn't fire, it's atomic transmutation. He could look at Bobby and turn him into chocolate pudding.

Yea...I just read up on him. Its not gonnaa beat iceman...he will jus immediately reform. Iceman powers are so vast that defeated powerful beings such as legion and oblivion. Firestorm not gonna be a problem

so if Firestorm turns him into dirt...then what?

That question can be asked about firestorm. If iceman flash freeze his molecules then wat firestorm gonna do...
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#16  Edited By Simon_the_digger

Firestorm curbstomp

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#17  Edited By bornstar

@BMEZY said:

iceman for the majority
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#18  Edited By Skaddix

Firestorm.

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#19  Edited By gunmetalgrey

@Icameforthebeerandthebitches: Firestorm goes intangible by lowering his density. That won't help him since Iceman's not throwing chunks of ice at or around him, he's freezing him, which lowers the energies of his very molecules.

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#20  Edited By jeanroygrant

Can't Firestorm just transmute Iceman?

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#21  Edited By _Black

@jeanroygrant said:

Can't Firestorm just transmute Iceman?

Yep.

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#22  Edited By jeanroygrant

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@jeanroygrant said:

Can't Firestorm just transmute Iceman?

Yep.

Firestorm wins than.

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Firestorm beats bobby.

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#24  Edited By Appzashok

Well now most of vine thinks Bobby is omnipotent, I am sure firestorm can turn bobby into sauce.

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I am pretty sure bobby is unbeatable...well long term that is... Who's Power is faster??? I am thinking that is the key to this battle?? I am pretty sure Bobby is more powerful..

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Iceman loses

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@termiteone4ever: Come on buddy you know Iceman wins since firestorms power wont even work on bobby

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#28  Edited By ZhuRong

Firestorm handily

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People just dont get it the only way Firestorm can win this is if he transmutes every water molecule on earth which isnt happening lol xD

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Iceman handily!

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Firestooooorm!

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Firestorm wins. Here's why:

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Firestorm takes away Killer Frost's powers

Or he could turn Iceman's brain into FroYo. I don't think Bobby can reform unconsciously.

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#36  Edited By Silverrings

Not that i can't see why Firestorm would win this, but didn't Ice Man freeze the sun once or something?

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People saying Firestorm can transmute Iceman and Iceman can transmute Firestorm into water. Easy!

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#38  Edited By Life_Without_Progress  Online
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People saying Firestorm can transmute Iceman and Iceman can transmute Firestorm into water. Easy!

Scans? I don't really care that much for the debates in this thread but you better show proof of Ice Man ever being capable of doing this on a consistent basis or else other people will just tell that you're pulling nonsense out of your ass and you'll forever have a reputation as a complete and total joke in the Battle Forums in this site.

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@life_without_progress: You don't know that Iceman can transmute anything into ice/water right? Anyways, Iceman can survive as an ice, water or gas and he is immortal and omnipresent.

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@rhysdurden said:

You don't know that Iceman can transmute anything into ice/water right? Anyways, Iceman can survive as an ice, water or gas and he is immortal and omnipresent.

I've read a lot of X-Men comic books featuring Ice Man and he's never shown to transmute someone into water outside of liquids themselves. Arguments with actual proof through scans >Arguments with head canon and baseless assumptions. Show me the scans already of him transmuting another person into liquid.

Also if we're going with that kind of "argument", what would stop Firestorm from just pulling away the mutant gene from Ice Man's DNA to turn him from being a mutant into a human just like what Deathstorm did (evil version of Firestorm) to Captain Cold when Deathstorm took away Cold's powers in Rogues Rebellion #2 (outside of experience with his powers and his morals)

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@life_without_progress: It's Captain Cold, not Iceman. You can't compare different characters although they do have similar abilities. Captain Cold cannot become organic ice whereas on other hand, Iceman could. Anyways, a person on an Iceman Respect Thread said that Iceman can transmute others into water so I don't know. I do read a lot of X-Men comic books (including solo series) though. Despite, this, Iceman can control all forms of moisture, freeze fluids inside people's bodies, travel as a liquid, solid or gas. Iceman decreases thermal energy so maybe he could just absorb Firestorm's heat and maybe he can take this fight.

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@rhysdurden said:

You don't know that Iceman can transmute anything into ice/water right? Anyways, Iceman can survive as an ice, water or gas and he is immortal and omnipresent.

I've read a lot of X-Men comic books featuring Ice Man and he's never shown to transmute someone into water outside of liquids themselves. Arguments with actual proof through scans >Arguments with head canon and baseless assumptions. Show me the scans already of him transmuting another person into liquid.

Also if we're going with that kind of "argument", what would stop Firestorm from just pulling away the mutant gene from Ice Man's DNA to turn him from being a mutant into a human just like what Deathstorm did (evil version of Firestorm) to Captain Cold when Deathstorm took away Cold's powers in Rogues Rebellion #2 (outside of experience with his powers and his morals)

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Firestorm

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Firestorm

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Iceman.

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Iceman actually froze over hell literally

He can freeze firestorm for the win

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Firestorm stomps here.

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#49  Edited By Life_Without_Progress  Online

@rhysdurden said:

It's Captain Cold, not Iceman. You can't compare different characters although they do have similar abilities.Captain Cold cannot become organic ice whereas on other hand, Iceman could. Anyways, a person on an Iceman Respect Thread said that Iceman can transmute others into water so I don't know. I do read a lot of X-Men comic books (including solo series) though. Despite, this, Iceman can control all forms of moisture, freeze fluids inside people's bodies, travel as a liquid, solid or gas. Iceman decreases thermal energy so maybe he could just absorb Firestorm's heat and maybe he can take this fight.

Captain Cold was actually able to generate organic ice from within his body during the New 52 after getting his cold gun's abilities fused to his body prior to Deathstorm's attack so I don't know what you're trying to get at here. The Jason Rusch version of Firestorm is also capable of transmuting organic material so Ice Man being organic ice or human isn't doing much on saving him in this battle.

As for the second bold part, Ice Man decreasing Firestorm's heat is a non factor in this battle, since Firestorm's main usage of his powers is through transmutation instead simple nuclear pyrokinesis.

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Does anyone have scans of Firestorm transmuting things? Turning enemies into Hot Pockets and stuff? I would've bet on Iceman too, but to think FS can just look at things and change them, that's hella OP. Could he do the same to Thanos or Odin? I mean, what's stopping him?