Iceman and Human Torch vs Wonder Woman

Human Torch and Iceman begin on the air

Team has knowledge

No prep

Morals off

Who wins?

Diana beats Johnny. Im mot sure how powerful bobby is currently. If hes not at his power levels during the arc when he froze most of new york then im not sure

Bobby solos.

Whats Overrated Woman suppose to do here? Johnny can just go supernova which I doubt she can tank or survive and even so it will suffocate her. Bobby can also one shot her as well

Holy crap, I was just looking for feats for Bobby. He's frickin insane! here

Classic Iceman underestimating lol

Johnny (even while Supernova) wouldn't be much of a factor but Bobby can solo Diana for sure.

Well Diana has them beat in every stat. Though I'm sure she has a form of resistance to heat however im NOT sure she can take a blast from a SuperNova. And Bobby can pretty much win by freezing her from the inside and Game Over.

I'm going to say the Team Wins.

She's either gonna be frozen in place out burnt to ash.

Iceman murder stomps her.

still WW

Team wins.

@babydarkseid: how exactly.

Johnny is kind of pointless here.

Team wins, she cant really do anything to Bobby and Johnny can always Nova

Team.

Duo

Why is human torch here exactly? Hes fodder.

Iceman can solo.

Don't see why Johnny is here, Bobby solos.

Team

Team.

how is bobby going to solo diana? she can ko him before he even thought about freezing her. johnny's powers are just useless. he isn't doing anything to a person who can hang out near the sun without being harmed at all.

How does one ko Iceman without telepathy ? Thor couldn't do it, Current op Juggernaut couldn't do it and Wonder Woman wouldn't be able to do it either.

Bobby should be able to handle Diana. As much as I like the guy, Johnny's a nonfactor here

The team wins.

I'm pretty sure Iceman was amped when he fought thor

@hellionvulcan:Diana lassos Iceman revealing his true self isnt even gay and WW wins via surrender cause he falls in love. All jokes aside cant the lasso contain ghost spirits and intangible beings,how would that work against iceman? I dont see supernovas or superfreezing taking out Diana? If Superheat and absolute cold could stop Diana kryptobians would stomp her and they never seem to for sone reason.

@watcher5000 said:

Stated on panel it just took away his morals as he wasn't amped in the slightest.

@kingyang said:

@hellionvulcan:Diana lassos Iceman revealing his true self isnt even gay and WW wins via surrender cause he falls in love. All jokes aside cant the lasso contain ghost spirits and intangible beings,how would that work against iceman? I dont see supernovas or superfreezing taking out Diana? If Superheat and absolute cold could stop Diana kryptobians would stomp her and they never seem to for sone reason.

Absolute zero is where everything stops and dies as Iceman has over powered Thor with his powers and he'll do the same here with ease.

@hellionvulcan:

Kryptonians can reach absolute zero,so can captain cold and Killer Frost. Just because it can stop Thor doesnt mean it can stop everyone else.

He can't go to absolute zero instantly. Diana can kill him before his brain registers a thought.

Yes he can and it's literally impossible to kill 616 Iceman.

@kingyang said:

@hellionvulcan:

Kryptonians can reach absolute zero,so can captain cold and Killer Frost. Just because it can stop Thor doesnt mean it can stop everyone else.

None of those characters are Iceman nor do they have feats on his level of power.

Diana blitzes, or Bobby freezes her.

More like, Diana blitzes, it does absolutely no good, and Bobby freezes her.

Johnny is pointless.

Diana can win here. This isn't morals off Bobby, so Diana with her speed and skill with the lasso can KO or take him out via lasso. Johnny dies so quick it's not even funny. Bobby has a chance if he last long enough but in character morals on highly doubtful. Morals off Again Bobby might make it, depends on Diana's bracers and if they reflect zero, but again morals off Diana may not give him the chance anyway

@hellionvulcan: It is not impossible to kill iceman. Also, diana is leagues faster than him. He still has to think to go to absolute zero. Diana can circle the globe before iceman forms a thought. Ww can ko Bobby before he even formed the thought to go to absolute zero.

Team. This is overkill.

Soooo we just gonna pretend Iceman isn't outta Wonder Woman's league?

How does she ko Iceman without telepathy ? as he has been smashed melted absorbed and still reforms perfectly fine.

Current iceman is op. He can create lots of class 100+ ice being to overwhelm her while the real iceman chill . If he is bloodlusted , iceman turns to vapor enter inside her guts then turn into porcupine like form in her gut ripping her intestines and other organs to shreds . He solos

Both Bobby and Johnny can be pretty stupid at times.
The first twenty minutes of the fight Diana survives cause the fire keeps melting the ice and vapors covers everything and nobody see shit.
Perhaps Diana can kill Johnny if she is somewhat close to him and he does not notice her in time.
Anyway in the end she dies, Bobby is too OP.

As said multiple times, Iceman solos.

Why are people calling Johnny fodder?

Iceman can't be put down permanently. He should also solo here.

Still team.

Bobby wins hands down. He can kill wonder woman in literally thousands of different ways.